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Pirfsich 05-18-2016 06:57 AM

Abe's new face in SoulStorm
 
IT'S HERE.
(And I'm also checking for ARG clues right now)
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Scrabaniac 05-18-2016 07:04 AM

I hate to say it, but i don't think i like Abe's new look.. He doesn't look like him at all. I guess i'll just have to get used to it

SligValet 05-18-2016 07:05 AM

Dunno what's up with that, but he looks a bit off than what we're used to I think
Can't quite put my finger on it, something with the eyes

Love it though

Dynamithix 05-18-2016 07:06 AM

Looks like he has Down syndrome, not a fan.

Pirfsich 05-18-2016 07:08 AM

It's new, but I think it's not bad. But don't forget where we are. They will use the wrong green.

SligValet 05-18-2016 07:08 AM

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Looks like he has Down syndrome, not a fan.

That's it actually.. I think his eyes are way too close together, not even kidding lol

He's always looked like a complete downie
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/se...ddus_71345.jpg

Now he looks less like his classic self


..i admit this is like a new level of "its the wrong green" and all, but to be honest we're used to his classic appearance and most of us don't like change

Vlam 05-18-2016 07:11 AM

Well, you guys wanted a "darker" SoulStorm.

ODDREN 05-18-2016 07:11 AM

Don't like it, but i will live through it. Besides the new approach is always a good thing. Yes, he become more creepy, more like the real living thing, not just clumsy puppet with toony colors

Pirfsich 05-18-2016 07:12 AM

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Besides the new approach is always a good thing. Yes, he become more creepy, more like the real living thing, not just clumsy puppet with toony colors

Exactly. Also the new feather tail looks way cooler.

Littleleeroy 05-18-2016 07:13 AM

He looks more human, and more realistic in general. When comparing this head shot, he has a smaller mouth, his head goes back more rather than upwards and he has eyebrows. I think he won't look too different once there is texture and colour added to the photo. I'm excited to see how it turns out.

SligValet 05-18-2016 07:16 AM

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He looks more human, and more realistic in general. When comparing this head shot, he has a smaller mouth, his head goes back more rather than upwards and he has eyebrows. I think he won't look too different once there is texture and colour added to the photo. I'm excited to see how it turns out.

That could be an issue though if he ends up looking "too" human. We already identify him as a specifically alien nincompoop and it would be bad to change something too much that made Oddworld what it is

Vlam 05-18-2016 07:21 AM

You guys complained about Abe being too goofy in NnT. Now he seems too "realistic" for your taste. You don't know what you want.

Connell 05-18-2016 07:29 AM

The negative response on here and Facebook is quite surprising. Normally I'm in the camp that dislike changes to Oddworld, but I actually really like Abe's design here. Different yes, but I have to say I'm on the positive side.

Vlam 05-18-2016 07:37 AM

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The negative response on here and Facebook is quite surprising.

Yes, and they're the same who embrace (supposedly) the idea of a "re-imagining".

JayDee 05-18-2016 07:40 AM

Seems fine to me. It's a bit different, but there's no way that OWI don't know that as well, or wouldn't have expected some degree of negativity from the slight change. This was a conscious choice made on their part and I trust them to know what they're doing.

Scrabaniac 05-18-2016 07:40 AM

There was a certain level of goofiness abe could pull off in the originals, I just can't see THIS Abe landing crotch first on a tusk and making that face.

Xavier 05-18-2016 07:41 AM

I quite like Abe's new look.

To be fair they couldn't realy give him a nice, cartoonish and happy face if they wanted SoulStorm to be a darker game.

FennecFyre 05-18-2016 07:51 AM

It's different, but I like it. He looks more weary than usual, though.

Nepsotic 05-18-2016 07:59 AM

Was nobody else reminded of this?
http://puu.sh/oWvgp/e811ed51af.jpg

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It's different, but I like it. He looks more weary than usual, though.
Yeah, people will complain because it's different, but there's good different and bad different.
With the Monsaic Lines colour, it annoyed me because I saw no reason for them to change it. It didn't add anything, it just looked off. Too bright.

With this change, I really like it (for once). It seems more alien, I have no idea why people think he looks more human. He's right in the centre of the uncanny valley but he still looks like a sympathetic character. No idea how they pulled that off.

He actually really reminds me of concept art Abe (the one with the long hair). I also really like how after all these years we can finally tell what sort of texture his hair is.

He's clearly looking at something. Can anybody tell what this reflection is? It looks like the interior of the Brewery but I can't be sure.

Edit: There's clearly fire there, looks like some kind of explosion.

http://puu.sh/oWuEZ/2317a32628.jpg


Also, HOLY SHIT, ABE HAS TEETH CONFIRMED!

http://puu.sh/oWuJ3/8a322d1a0d.jpg

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There was a certain level of goofiness abe could pull off in the originals, I just can't see THIS Abe landing crotch first on a tusk and making that face.

Good. We don't want him doing that.

Pirfsich 05-18-2016 08:01 AM

I want a dark oddworld. With no goof.
The new abe fits perfectly.

FrustratedAssassin 05-18-2016 08:33 AM

I like new Abe. If the game sticks to this tone it should be great. Well, not entirely obviously, cause this is Oddworld, but at least partly.

Scrabaniac 05-18-2016 08:45 AM

By the way, in his eye, i can see the exterior of Necrum mines, and a flame coming from something like a train.

FrustratedAssassin 05-18-2016 08:46 AM

Whoa. I saw the fire, but not the mines. That's even cooler.

Scrabaniac 05-18-2016 08:57 AM

Can you see it too? Or is it just me?

SligValet 05-18-2016 08:59 AM

If you look in his right eye (your left stupid), you can make out some shapes more clearly. Looks like a bunch of cylinder shaped objects?

FennecFyre 05-18-2016 09:13 AM

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I want a dark oddworld. With no goof.
The new abe fits perfectly.

I respect your opinion, but I also hope you're joking. A completely serious Oddworld with no jokes or satire just isn't gonna work. I'd rather see a mixture between darkly-silly and serious.

Crashpunk 05-18-2016 09:17 AM

I like it. It's different, but not totally unrecognizable. What I really love is the new feather pony tail. It looks natural and apart of him, instead of looking stuck on with glue.

Also for those not liking it. Bare in mind that this is a single, uncoloured image from one angle. We've yet to see Abe as a whole. I'm sure once we see the complete picture, he'll look great.

But yeah, I really can't wait to see more.

STM 05-18-2016 09:19 AM

Man this looks so cool, kudos to Oddworld. The redesign looks different but he seems to look tired, scared, dishevelled and that fits what we know so far about where Abe is at in his story.

Guineapiglet 05-18-2016 09:30 AM

This is exciting!

UnderTheSun 05-18-2016 09:36 AM

Poor guy must've lost one of his scrunchies...

I like it. He looks more alien and birdlike. Not to mention tired and afraid. Really a face to sympathize with.

Manco 05-18-2016 09:40 AM

Looking closely at it he’s not that different. The only big changes I can see are the top of his skull is smaller than it used to be and the wrinkles on his face and neck are much less pronounced, making him look a lot younger.

I don’t mind it, but I also don’t think they needed to change him. I’ll wait until I see him fully textured and in motion before passing judgement.

I do hope they keep his skin coloration and spots though, because right now the untextured model looks really flat.

Paul 05-18-2016 09:50 AM

Hmm on first look I was like "wtf have they done", but on 2nd thought he looks like some run down druggie alien, so for a much more darker/serious themed game it might work quite well.

Still I find it quite strange to change the design of Abe at this point?

Nepsotic 05-18-2016 10:27 AM

Are you sure that's Necrum Mines in his eye? Looks like the Brewery to me.
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Also for those not liking it. Bare in mind that this is a single, uncoloured image from one angle. We've yet to see Abe as a whole. I'm sure once we see the complete picture, he'll look great.

The reason some people don't like it is because of his face shape. Colours aren't going to change that.

FrustratedAssassin 05-18-2016 10:49 AM

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I do hope they keep his skin coloration and spots though, because right now the untextured model looks really flat.

I don't think they'd get rid of those, especially since they're going for dark and gritty.

Crashpunk 05-18-2016 10:59 AM

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The reason some people don't like it is because of his face shape. Colours aren't going to change that.

True. I was more talking about the only angle we have so far. Can't judge an entire design in a single picture.

OddsomeOddy 05-18-2016 11:23 AM

As for this picture I'm not a fan of the redesign. I honestly can't tell what's different but it looks kinda off. Maybe it's the angle, the grey tone or whatever. For now I'm not impressed, but I'm waiting for another full picture before really judging it.

Jordan 05-18-2016 11:45 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm looking forward to seeing what he'll look like in-game when he's fully textured. It'll be interesting to see how different he animates and speaks if they're going for a more gritty game.

Xavier 05-18-2016 12:32 PM

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By the way, in his eye, i can see the exterior of Necrum mines, and a flame coming from something like a train.

Just showed the picture to my girlfriend and she immediately thought it was the Necrum temple reflected in Abe's eyes:

http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...35/category/15

I kind of see it too.

JayDee 05-18-2016 01:29 PM

I was thinking that it could have perhaps been Necrum Mines since it explodes and would be the first Mudokon landmark that Abe destroyed.

Scrabaniac 05-18-2016 01:37 PM

Could be indicating a different version of Abe's escape from the Boiler explosion if it is the temple