Paramite Stockyard
 

Hi ! I'm very happy ! I have finf how to make a paramite stockyards !

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/958...eStockyard.png

well done you for finf how make paramite stockyards!

Um

What

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And what happens when you chase it onto the same screen as a Scrab?

I bet it crashes, however I've been waiting ages for you Oddworld modders to make a screen with both a Scrab and a Paramite in it.

Also Cun't Spill.

It won't crash, they just won't react to each other, as they aren't programmed to.

How do you know this?

It doesn't crash :)

No, he means if there were Paramites and Scrabs on the same screen.

I know they wouldn't react because there has been a thread about it before, Jordan.

Yes I know

Video makes me feel i look into PS1 Abe's Oddysee Manual for somereason. :D

(Hey and can't wait if this is new mod.) ;)

Pretty cool seeing the Paramites in the Stockyards!

Oh cool, do you have a link to the thread for me to take a look at?

I always thought a few Paramites in the stockyards would be cool, nice work.

I don't know that scrabs and paramites on the same screen has ever been tested, Nep. I believe you're quoting me on the matter from when it came up in a hypothetical situation ages ago.

I don't think that putting them in the same .lvl has ever been particularly successful.

It would be amazing if someone could figure out how. Just seeing Abe being chased by Scrabs and Paramites would just be awesome.

And it's what we've always wanted to see isn't it? :D

Ah, I see. So it did crash when they were put on the same .lvl?

Abe chased by Scrabs, Paramites, Sligs & Slogs at the sametime. Ultimate chase moment... http://www.oddworldforums.net/images.../icon3_odd.gif

But, is Scrab & Paramite possible in same level? http://www.oddworldforums.net/images...icon10_odd.gif

Phylum said it hasn't been successful, but you could give it a try, and post a video of it.

I placed both paramites and scrabs in the same screen,and nothing happened,abe got chased by the scrab,and then the paramite killed abe when he got cornered.I made a level about that in the finished lvls thread I think.

right

Scraby do you reckon you could make a video of that? I think we'd like to see it :D

Lol I'm makin what you have just tell me, a very very long chase by paramite and scrabs in a sort of necrum mine/mudanchee volt/mudomo volt lvl !

I took look into all level files with Cheat Engine (Hex Editor) i found out that f1.lvl, f2.lvl and f4.lvl contains Scrab & Paramite sprites inside level. :D
Also i started make new level and video of it. This little chaos haves also Sligs and Slogs to mess players thoughs while running background:



This level will be still slightly at beta stage. http://www.oddworldforums.net/images...icon10_odd.gif

EDIT: Wolfenstein posted at the sametime something interesting... http://www.oddworldforums.net/images.../icon3_odd.gif

Lol,poor Abe.Well I might do a level in rupture farms again with scrabs n paramites,but my video recorder sucks at recording ao or ae -.-

I have start though would one manual hex edit make Scrabs work at RuptureFarms. I compared all levels that have Scrab sprite file and all bytes look same on each level that contain Scrab. Should try pasting these bytes to RuptureFarms.

Feels that it only crash, but worthy to try if it still would work... :fuzwink:

EDIT: I know there is easier methods for pasting sprites with Paul's tools. :p

They both try to kill you but they don't react to each other, or sligs (in AO at least).

It's really nice talking and also really nice above comments, guys, i also want to say something about it, I have been patiently waiting age groups for you old-world molders to create a display with both a crab and a parasite in it...

I have no idea why it took people so long to make a Stockyards with Paramites in it.

It's to easy too do it

Exactly, the only difficult part is adding the .bin files, it's a pain in the ass.

Btw the next editor will make that easier as in the xml you can say which files an object requires, so when you save a path it will ask for a level that contains whatever.ban and push it into the lvl you're saving.

Ok

Brilliant work. ;-)
In new Editor when selecting collision item, in it properties is there told type of collision item? Like example: "Wall", "Floor/Ground", "Moving Bomb", "Bat" :)

I'm at least going to collect the possible numbers, as for what they mean then maybe.

If you want to help with giving me the names of what they mean (assuming you know some of them) then feel free :D.

Also if anyone wants to help with collecting which ban files belong to which object that would be cool too. I could provide the new xml files and someone could add them in ;)

It will be quite a big task to figure them all out (you'd need to use the decoder to see what's in each ban to figure out if its needed or not).

This thing was fun to seek out. I guess this list is nearby complete, like 96% ;)
But here is found Collision Item types:

---List of Found Collision Item types---

• 0 = Floor/Ground
• 1 = Left Wall
• 2 = Right Wall
• 3 = Dont allow Abe stand while in crouch
• 4 = Background Floor/Ground
• 5 = Background Left Wall
• 6 = Background Right Wall
• 7 = Dont allow Abe stand while in crouch in background (This is guess cause there is no situations of this ingame)
• 8 = Moving Bomb/Bat

Only thing that makes me think is that walls seems have left and right wall. But as example i use left wall it can work also right wall. I have no idea of these walls why they work like this. :happy:

That's such a hard-coded, awful way to handle walls/floors. It makes me want to curl up in a ball and die just thinking that one of my favourite games uses a system like that.

No wonder the game has so many weird bugs.

10 = Z slig cover
^^

So we're not sure about type 7 and have no idea about 9? Also I'm assuming this is for AO items? Or are AE items also the same?

7 is the same of 3 but in the background :) And there is one in scrabanian temple.

I knew i forgot that after posting list, but was not able to add it to post afterwards. :)
Thanks for highlight. ^^


Type 9 is still mystery for me. Trying still seek if it appears. :)

EDIT: I made discovery, here it appears in Paramonia. Does it have something to do with Elum?
http://www.oddworldforums.net/attach...1&d=1355084606



Is there place in background where Abe should crouch? Now i can't get it to my mind if there is... ^^

EDIT: I found it. :) Type 7 collision item is now confirmed as i though what it would be. ^^

Excellent :)

Anyone feel like coming up with a colour scheme for these types? (RGB values). *awaits silence*