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JennyGenesis 05-17-2011 12:00 AM

How does rep work?
 
I'm a little confused about the rep system. I hope the pictures and description below can explain my question.

http://i52.tinypic.com/316uo8g.jpg
In this picture the Rep Power is 7 and the bar is just over half way full.

http://i51.tinypic.com/ehj0ac.jpg
In this picture the Rep Power is 6 but the bar is full.

So what's the difference beetween the bars and the number?

Alcar 05-17-2011 12:25 AM

The bar represents how much rep you have received from other members.

Rep power is the amount of rep you are able to give to other members. Half this number is how much you can take from members (negative rep). This number is determined by a variety of factors, not just "how many bars" you have.

Alcar...

JennyGenesis 05-17-2011 12:28 AM

Thank you :) Clears up the confusion for me now.

Dixanadu 05-17-2011 03:31 AM

I'm pretty sure your rep power goes up by one if:

- You've been a member for a year (2 rep power for 2 years, 3 for 3 etc...)

- Every 1,000 rep points you get.

That's all I know about it.

Wings of Fire 05-17-2011 03:34 AM

I think it's every 500 rep and every 1000 posts.

I'm not sure anymore, I lost count.

Wil 05-17-2011 03:49 AM

You get one rep power for
  • every 365 days you've been a member
  • every 500 reputation points you have
  • every thousand posts you make
  • being a moderator or higher

Thus I have 10 + 11 + 11 + 1 = 33.

Dixanadu 05-17-2011 05:44 AM

2 + 2 + 1 = 5

I have 6, though?

Wil 05-17-2011 06:04 AM

After doing some calculations, it seems mods have the correct rep power, normal members have an extra one. How long you've all been getting away with this is anyone's guess. Anyway, we're looking hard into nerfing you all as soon as we humanly can.

Nate 05-17-2011 06:22 AM

Sooo... Apparently all the mods always thought that we got an extra point. Turns out we don't. But, on the other hand, everyone does get 1 point for simply joining. Turns out we actually found this out two year ago and all promptly forgot.

You may have received rep from a new member that gave you 0 extra rep. That's because the rep power doesn't kick in until they reach 50 posts.

So, the actual calculation is as follows:
1 point for joining
1 point for each year the person has been a member.
1 point for each 1000 posts.
1 point for each 500 rep points.

Dixanadu 05-17-2011 06:55 AM

Oh. Yeah, that makes much more sense now. I thought I was special for getting a super secret extra point.

Agh

Jango 05-17-2011 09:12 AM

This probably sounds very stupid, but how do you actually give people rep?

JennyGenesis 05-17-2011 09:37 AM

Look at sombodies post. Click on the weighing scales above the box that displays

Join Date:
Location:
Posts:
Rep Power:

RoryF 05-17-2011 09:38 AM

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Look at sombodies post. Click on the weighing scales above the box that displays

Join Date:
Location:
Posts:
Rep Power:

Depends on the view on the forums.
Mine's below the that info.

Dixanadu 05-17-2011 09:49 AM

You're not using Industrial!?

RoryF 05-17-2011 09:52 AM

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You're not using Industrial!?

Who are you on about?

Wil 05-17-2011 10:01 AM

Dix is trying to turn yet another FSH thread into a Skin War.

Dixanadu 05-17-2011 10:12 AM

I didn't start the last one!

I just exacerbated it :(

T-nex 05-17-2011 01:07 PM

Industrial FTW =D neeheeheeheehee.


Hey I'm approaching my 4000th post D= !!! Yey one more rep power for me soon =)

STM 05-17-2011 01:22 PM

Paramonia theme all the way guys!

enchilado 05-17-2011 06:41 PM

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You're not using Industrial!?

I don't like Native or Industrial (I choose to forget about Munch's Oddysee and Honeybee), but I make do with the lesser of two evils...

Industrial makes my eyes hurt and IIRC you can't see someone's exact rep in their rep bar's mouseover text. So Native, even though it looks like puke.

EDIT: if I make a very plain white theme, can it be added with the name "Simple"? That's how I like things.

EDIT2: how would I go about making a theme anyway?

STM 05-18-2011 01:06 AM

I forgot about doing mine, just found all the documents recently, I'll be working on that again in three weeks because my GCSE's will be all over.

Speaking of which the Necrum theme is a horrible horrible colour scheme, what king of colours do people actually want to see?

JennyGenesis 05-18-2011 01:13 AM

If your going to do Necrum you could base it around this
http://i56.tinypic.com/2mqov2p.jpg

Crashpunk 05-18-2011 02:40 AM

Native! :tard:

Dixanadu 05-18-2011 03:10 AM

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Industrial makes my eyes hurt and IIRC you can't see someone's exact rep in their rep bar's mouseover text.

How could it when it's dark?

And I can see the rep bar's text fine, it's just my own I can't view.

STM 05-18-2011 03:11 AM

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If your going to do Necrum you could base it around this
http://i56.tinypic.com/2mqov2p.jpg


Thing is that is a ghastly colour scheme for a forum, because all Necrum colours are based on darkness and rot. It's a pain because I made the title bar already.

Havoc 05-18-2011 04:59 AM

Speaking of rep, shouldn't the block bar be reconfigured? Right now it just becomes full at a certain point and you can't really distinguish 2000 from 9000 points.

Phylum 05-18-2011 05:23 AM

I like my bar being big and important looking.

On the topic of reputation, I am now on the first page of members by reputation.

Wil 05-18-2011 05:31 AM

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Speaking of rep, shouldn't the block bar be reconfigured? Right now it just becomes full at a certain point and you can't really distinguish 2000 from 9000 points.

I can't find an option in the Admin CP to change that.

Havoc 05-18-2011 05:56 AM

Should be under 'User Reputations' in the Admin CP sidebar. There you can add and change existing reputation levels. I assume the blocks will be balanced out according to what is the lowest and highest level. The highest level by default is 2000 points, which it still is by the looks of it.

Wil 05-18-2011 06:04 AM

Actually it's 10000, but with nothing between that and 2000. :p So you're saying if we add higher reputation levels, the blocks will automatically configure to accommodate that?

We could stretch it a bit higher, but I don't think we need take it beyond 5000. Once we get as high as 5000, we're talking about fine tuning something that will only affect five members.

Nate 05-18-2011 06:08 AM

By the way, if anyone wants to use their photoshop skills to come up with something slightly more Oddworldy than those green boxes, feel free. A while back I discussed the matter with Alcar and tried to shrink down the moolah coin images, but they looked kinda shitty.

Havoc 05-18-2011 06:17 AM

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Actually it's 10000, but with nothing between that and 2000. :p So you're saying if we add higher reputation levels, the blocks will automatically configure to accommodate that?

We could stretch it a bit higher, but I don't think we need take it beyond 5000. Once we get as high as 5000, we're talking about fine tuning something that will only affect five members.

I'm not 100% sure how the blocks work, but I can't find an option to configure how much rep = one block either so I would assume they scale to size.

I'd just make increments between the 2000 and the 10000, with 10000 being the ceiling. I can't imagine anyone reaching that any time soon anyway.

Nate 05-18-2011 06:41 AM

Actually, now that I think about it, I think that Alcar once said that there was an internal script that works out how many boxes to show. It's similar to the OWI symbols under the username/title. He said he could tweak the maths of that script to change the display.

JennyGenesis 05-18-2011 09:19 AM

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Thing is that is a ghastly colour scheme for a forum, because all Necrum colours are based on darkness and rot. It's a pain because I made the title bar already.

The Industrial theme is dark and that is my favourite.

Manco 05-18-2011 11:35 AM

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By the way, if anyone wants to use their photoshop skills to come up with something slightly more Oddworldy than those green boxes, feel free. A while back I discussed the matter with Alcar and tried to shrink down the moolah coin images, but they looked kinda shitty.

Any restrictions on the dimensions, or is it just to be the same size as the current blocks?

e:
http://i56.tinypic.com/axog3t.png
Perhaps the Wired and Angry mud faces for positive/negative blocks?

Alcar 05-18-2011 12:34 PM

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Actually, now that I think about it, I think that Alcar once said that there was an internal script that works out how many boxes to show. It's similar to the OWI symbols under the username/title. He said he could tweak the maths of that script to change the display.

It's been a while since I've delved in to the vBulletin code, but if I recall correctly there is a hard-coded maximum number of bars that can be displayed. How many bars are displayed on a user's profile is based on this number and your current rep points.

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Any restrictions on the dimensions, or is it just to be the same size as the current blocks? Perhaps the Wired and Angry mud faces for positive/negative blocks?

Oooo, those look good. I would prefer if the dimensions are kept around the same size, I don't want the images to be too noticeable / distracting. However, there are actually five or six different colours for the rep bars. I'll find them and post them sometime today.

Alcar...

Manco 05-18-2011 12:57 PM

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Oooo, those look good. I would prefer if the dimensions are kept around the same size, I don't want the images to be too noticeable / distracting. However, there are actually five or six different colours for the rep bars. I'll find them and post them sometime today.

No problem - the stuff I posted are maybe a couple of pixels larger/smaller than the originals.

As for multiple colours, probably the easiest solution would be to use the Mudokon face and just Photoshop it into the different colours.

Wil 05-18-2011 01:37 PM

Off the top of my head, the five colours are:
  • Positive
  • Highly positive
  • Balanced
  • Negative
  • Highly negative



From top to bottom I'd suggest replacing them with Happy, Wired, Neutral, and then either Sad and Angry, or Angry and Deceased.

Ridg3 05-18-2011 02:17 PM

Can we not replace the rep bars with the deceased face to mark out banned members?

Manco 05-18-2011 03:20 PM

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Off the top of my head, the five colours are:
  • Positive
  • Highly positive
  • Balanced
  • Negative
  • Highly negative

From top to bottom I'd suggest replacing them with Happy, Wired, Neutral, and then either Sad and Angry, or Angry and Deceased.

http://i54.tinypic.com/10p7lv4.png

So here's some rough mockups. They're stacked in the same order you posted the default ones in - you can probably tell which icon is which face.

The dimensions of each face are 8px by 13px - 3px taller than the default rep icons.


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Can we not replace the rep bars with the deceased face to mark out banned members?

Skull and crossbones doesn't scale down well. I wouldn't recommend it.