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scrabface 11-17-2010 03:29 PM

Lucid Dreaming
 
I read about the possibility of lucid dreaming and I really wanna try this out. By thinking back I know that as a kid I sometimes dreamed lucid. But it mostly was kind of a nightmare and I knew it was a nightmare and tried to escape by reaching myself so I could tell me that I have to wake up. sounds odd.
the first time I heard about lucid dreaming, which was longer ago, I talked about it with a fried who's studying neuropsychology and he said there is also the possibility that dreaming itself is a hallucination as we can only look back at them after we woke up. so what we call a dream is only memory. Neither of us do really believe this, but there is no chance of proving it.
only a lucid dreamer could communicate with the real world with his eyes. the eye motion should confirm the arranged pattern.

anyway, I am not up to prove the reality of dreaming, but if lucid dreaming is possible, I want to experience it.

Bullet Magnet 11-17-2010 04:17 PM

You'll need to be able to sleep without resting your frontal lobe. If you call that resting.

ziggy 11-17-2010 04:52 PM

I've had a lucid dreaming episode before when I was like 6, but I still could barely control anything in my dream. That was the only time when I was aware I was dreaming. It's really hard to do though, and I don't know if you can just will yourself to do it.

Daxter King 11-17-2010 05:59 PM

The other night I was having a nightmare. Sometime within it, I said to myself "This is just my subconsciousness messing with me, conciseness, attack!" An army showed up and shot up everything from my nightmare. I dont know if this counts, but it was pretty cool.

enchilado 11-17-2010 06:53 PM

A few years back we had pet axolotls. For some reason, I often would dream of one or two of them being dead.

Then, one time, I was dreaming it for the umptimillionth time and I realised, 'this is just ANOTHER of those darned dreams!'. I then woke up, and never dreamt of them being dead again.





Mainly because soon after that I went to New Zealand and one died while I was away, but yeah.

MagogCartel 11-17-2010 07:17 PM

Do 'premonitions' fit this category? Example: I would be anywhere (home, school), space out for what seemed like forever, but actually only a few seconds. Then, like 2 weeks later, I would live through what I saw two weeks previous, whether it be me talking, conversation or actions of others, visual images I've never seen, etc. I think of it as super Deja Vu. Also, I could choose to act differently than in the original scene. Sorry if I sound crazy, but this used to happen to me for like 2-3 years.

MagogCartel 11-17-2010 07:19 PM

To Daxter King:

Similar to what the dreamers do with their subconscious in 'Inception.'

Nate 11-17-2010 07:58 PM

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Do 'premonitions' fit this category? Example: I would be anywhere (home, school), space out for what seemed like forever, but actually only a few seconds. Then, like 2 weeks later, I would live through what I saw two weeks previous, whether it be me talking, conversation or actions of others, visual images I've never seen, etc. I think of it as super Deja Vu. Also, I could choose to act differently than in the original scene. Sorry if I sound crazy, but this used to happen to me for like 2-3 years.

It's not 'super Deja Vu'; that is deja vu. Deal with it.

Also, don't double post. Use the 'Edit' button if you want to add to your post.

abe619 11-17-2010 08:04 PM

Lucid dreaming is simply awesome...i used to have more of it when i was younger.....also binaural beats help.

MagogCartel 11-17-2010 08:06 PM

Wow, apparently you can't speak your mind on here without someone saying something rude. Sorry my comment was so idiotic and I'm new and wasn't aware what double posting was exactly. I thought this community would be inviting.

Nate 11-17-2010 09:31 PM

We are inviting. We are just sarcastic at the same time. Deal with it.

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enchilado 11-17-2010 09:51 PM

Most insults you'll read here aren't really meant to be insulting. It's the way we are.

Deal with it.

T-nex 11-17-2010 11:29 PM

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Wow, apparently you can't speak your mind on here without someone saying something rude. Sorry my comment was so idiotic and I'm new and wasn't aware what double posting was exactly. I thought this community would be inviting.

If you start taking people seriously around here, you'll end up in the gutter X_x
Some people live off of being sarcastic and poking at people. Just take things with a grain of salt.
Oh and don't double-post! It's the single most worst thing you can ever do!!



Anyway, I've had quite a few lucid dreams during my years of existence. The most recent one was a few months ago... I think. It was quite nice. I was super-aware but I was still dreaming. So I filled up my dream with spaceships in the sky, and I flew back to my child hood place and hung out there for a while. Maybe that's a waste of lucid dreaming, but at least I enjoyed it.

Lately I haven't been so aware of my dreams. It's a strange development, cos I always used to be able to tell when I was dreaming and then tweak them a bit.

MeechMunchie 11-17-2010 11:45 PM

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Wow, apparently you can't speak your mind on here without someone saying something rude.

Having unusual opinions is fine. Getting your facts wrong isn't.

Deal with it.

I seem to mention this example every time we have a thread about this, but there is one dream I had where I fell off a cliff. I got up off the ground, and realised that since I wasn't dead, or even hurt, this must be a dream. So what did I do? I walked back to the top of the cliff and jumped off again. Wheee! And that was how I spent the rest of the night, reapeatedly basejumping without a parachute. Fair point by Bullet Magenet, I was dog-tired in the morning.

AlexFili 11-18-2010 12:02 AM

Anyone seen Vanilla Sky or Inception? I like those films :P
I've not had many lucid dreams, but the ones I do have are nice.

Nate 11-18-2010 02:36 AM

I had a dream a week ago in which I was thinking about the fact that I regularly have dreams about flying/floating, Arthur Dent-style, and how absurd that is. Then I found a large helium balloon, sat on it, and it gave me just enough lift that my innate magical ability took over and I was able to fly.

Then I dreamed that I woke up, fell back asleep, had the same dream again but it ended with me having a conversation with someone about the fact that I was dreaming and how goddamn stupid it is. Then I pinched myself in the dream and woke up.

T-nex 11-18-2010 05:28 AM

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I had a dream a week ago in which I was thinking about the fact that I regularly have dreams about flying/floating, Arthur Dent-style, and how absurd that is. Then I found a large helium balloon, sat on it, and it gave me just enough lift that my innate magical ability took over and I was able to fly.

Then I dreamed that I woke up, fell back asleep, had the same dream again but it ended with me having a conversation with someone about the fact that I was dreaming and how goddamn stupid it is. Then I pinched myself in the dream and woke up.

XD that does sound like a fairly retarded dream XD ... Well funny any anyway. And entertaining.

I love absurd dreams. I have too many of them.


I remember I woke myself up at some point cos I was having a really tedious nightmare, and I suddenly thought: I'm really fucking tired of this dream. So I woke myself up and was a bit surprised.

Dreaming is fun. I'd like to teach my brain to have more lucid dream. They are quite nice.

MagogCartel 11-18-2010 07:26 AM

:fuzconf: Haha oh okay, sorry. I'm just new and shy. I'll suck it up and deal with it.

MA 11-18-2010 07:29 AM

YEAH

DEAL WITH IT, MAN

DEAL WITH IT

OANST 11-18-2010 07:30 AM

I have a giant dream penis.

Deal with it.

Bullet Magnet 11-18-2010 08:26 AM

I've had a dream when I was about 14 in which I was playing a mature-rated videogame. An entirely fictional one that I invented in my dream.

Later that night I had a nightmare about it.

MeechMunchie 11-18-2010 09:41 AM

I keep dreaming that I'm at my computer, having a great time playing games that I don't own in reality.

I guess that says a lot about my life and interests.

STM 11-18-2010 10:14 AM

I lucid dream infrequently but not rarely, usually, once you become aware that you are in fact just dreaming it is not a case of contacting your sleeping body but trying to wake yourself up, if it does not happen automatically this is very hard!

Mac Sirloin 11-18-2010 10:22 AM

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Wow, apparently you can't speak your mind on here without someone saying something rude. Sorry my comment was so idiotic and I'm new and wasn't aware what double posting was exactly. I thought this community would be inviting.




I remember thinking Lucid dreaming was the coolest thing a few years ago. Then I realized you don't get any rest, it's a miserable pain in the ass to actually "initiate" a Lucid dream, and it's not like you have a whole lot to do once you exhaust flying and having sex with a tank (or something).

I prefer normal sleeping as the entire point of sleep is to actually be rested when you're done, not irritable and with a headache.

scrabface 11-18-2010 10:35 AM

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I remember thinking Lucid dreaming was the coolest thing a few years ago. Then I realized you don't get any rest, it's a miserable pain in the ass to actually "initiate" a Lucid dream, and it's not like you have a whole lot to do once you exhaust flying and having sex with a tank (or something).

I prefer normal sleeping as the entire point of sleep is to actually be rested when you're done, not irritable and with a headache.

so how did you initiate a lucid dream? got any tips? I wasn't able to start lucid dreaming on purpose so far, so I really would be thankful for any help.

Mac Sirloin 11-18-2010 10:42 AM

You basically have to think about it, REALLY REALLY HARD, then fall asleep without falling asleep.

OANST 11-18-2010 10:42 AM

lsd?

Mac Sirloin 11-18-2010 10:46 AM

You'd probably be better off with LSD, yeah.

Protip: Pot doesn't help. Pot is good for using your imagination when you're awake. And working.

T-nex 11-18-2010 10:46 AM

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so how did you initiate a lucid dream? got any tips? I wasn't able to start lucid dreaming on purpose so far, so I really would be thankful for any help.

Well.. Sometimes it helps not getting a good night's rest :p

No seriously, it's true. All the times I've been lucid dreaming, were the times when I kinda fell asleep while still awake is that makes sense. Half-sleeping until it turned into a full-fledged lucid dream. I've read that sometimes it helps if you wake in the middle of a dream and then go to sleep again, keeping in mind that you wanna have a lucid dream.
Also, many people stress that you should believe that you will have one. And some people use meditation/hypnosis.

I dunno though. I've never initiated a lucid dream myself.

Ridg3 11-18-2010 10:47 AM

So you effectively have to fall asleep whilst remaining conscious? Christ.

T-nex 11-18-2010 10:52 AM

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So you effectively have to fall asleep whilst remaining conscious? Christ.

Yeaaa.... But sometimes it just happens automatically. Specially if you have a lot of stuff on your mind, which follows Mac's suggestion. At least the last time I had one, was because I went to sleep kinda late, and couldn't really fall deep asleep as it was. Then suddenly I was sucked into my own world.

I dunno. There are websites dedicated to lucid dreaming. They probably have a lot of info. But a lot of them are also intertwined with Astral Projection stuff, cos somehow these two belong together. According to the peeps anyway.


Edit: A quick google search and found this FAQ if anyone is interested http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamin...l#dreamcontrol

STM 11-18-2010 12:12 PM

Lucid dreaming is as far as I'm concerned a massively interesting concept but I thought it was funny that other people couldn't do it.

Does anyone who can lucid dream know how to control their dreams? I know from experience that trying to just change dream without waking up results in wake up almost instantly so does the change have to be gradual?

scrabface 11-18-2010 02:22 PM

I wish I could write more about this topic, but as soon as I am going to experience a lucid dream, I am going to share it with you.
But I am honestly surprised that so many of you already had been dreaming lucid.

OANST 11-18-2010 02:24 PM

I don't lucid dream. Life is stupid enough without that shit.

scrabface 11-18-2010 02:29 PM

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I don't lucid dream. Life is stupid enough without that shit.

only if you dream about YOUR shitty life. Apart from that...

OANST 11-18-2010 02:31 PM

budump tch.

slig# 5719 11-18-2010 02:37 PM

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Does anyone who can lucid dream know how to control their dreams? I know from experience that trying to just change dream without waking up results in wake up almost instantly so does the change have to be gradual?

To stop waking up straight away never think about trying not to wake up, in my experience I just wake up when I do that. I have also found that emotions wake me up too. When I first started Lucid Dreaming I pulled a small pill from my pocket, (in the dream of course :p just assume it's there and it will be there) told myself it will make me sleep longer and swallowed it.

As for controlling things *shrugs* sometimes I can sometimes I can't but I usually find assuming something will happen is better than willing something to happen.

Nate 11-18-2010 04:47 PM

Every time I have lucid dreamed it has been when I've woken up and then gone back to sleep. But then, that's generally the only time I ever remember dreams so that might not actually be too significant.


I recently had a dream about my ex. It was lucid enough that I controlled it to get us in to his bedroom. Then when I started flirting with him, he backed away. Cock-blocked by my own unconscious!

tantopat 11-18-2010 05:03 PM

I had a lucid dream once when I was little, but I've never quite gotten the hang of it since. I remember the dream being much harder to control than my parents had led me to believe, and the only thing I could really do was rewind and replay the dream as it happened (I don't remember much of it, but it was something about being on a spaceship with Dennis Nedry from Jurassic Park). Since then I've had dreams where I've changed things that don't seem realistic enough to me, but I'm not sure if they count as properly lucid; even if I see a dream as unrealistic, I can never seem to recognise it as a dream until I wake up.

Bullet Magnet 11-18-2010 05:37 PM

Incidentally, how does anyone know their dream is actually lucid? It's well established that you can simply not trust your own recollection of your dreams.