The Brutal Ballad of Fangus Klot ???
 

an intersting game which was supposedly in development using the same game mechanic used to create strangers wrath.

with the return of strangers of wrath iminent do you believe they ( JAW + oddmobb ) will return to this game mechanic (with updated HD visuals ofcourse) to create the cancelled game ???

Probably not. Not any time soon, at least.

There's a big difference between rejigging a completed game and finishing off one that had barely started. Also, I suspect that if Lorne had a choice, he'd prefer to go back to stories set on Oddworld.

hmm, I see your point. I have to admit if I had a choice I'd much rather see a new oddworld quintology title (or even bonus title). Maybe one day though right??? my point being it just seems odd to return to the playstation with strangers wrath if they were continuing the quintology any time soon. logic states they'd go with munch right?

Maybe im thinking about this way too much :fuzconf:

Fangus Klot wasn't set on Oddworld? I thought it was on the farside of Oddworld? :fuzconf: I guess not.

Originally it was, development was stearing from that though. They could make it in the vision he wanted though.

It was originally, but when he handed more creative control over to the artists they took a more human approach, which diminished his interest somewhat. He decided to let them continue down that road but moved the setting from Oddworld.

It could all snowball. Slowly get more money from the Oddbox. Create new games. Creates even MORE money. Money used to employ more people. More people gives Oddmob the time to work on more of the projects they want to do/ wanted to do. They end up having the time and capability to make things like Fangus. That's the dream, right? :D

That is indeed the dream lol. It just makes sense fangus would one day make a return, especially after lorne stated he wished to return to the project one day, and after all they're currently working, on some level, with the game mechanic at the moment (Same mechanic used for Strangers wrath was set to be used for Fangus) so if they already have background knowledge on how to use the tool it makes sense the companies would work with something they are familiar with.

just a good use of time in my opinion. :fuzsmile:

Lorne shouldn't be that democratic lol.

Well we all know how Lorne gets lol

High?

Aliens possesing farts ? yes, very high rofl

Are you all INSANE??? Fangus looked absolutely NOTHING like an Oddworld game with a character that looked FAR too human, and had a horribly bland "scifi futuristic war game" look to it that absolutely disgusted me, and I am both relieved and grateful this piece of crap was cancelled before it marred such an amazing series. Let me reiterate: Fangus looked TERRIBLE and was not special like the other games, the ONLY aspect about it that I found interesting was the part where he was going to be losing sanity with a form of rabies. That might've been a good idea if the game had the "LOOK" of Oddworld but it didn't.

Mudokons - good creations.
Gabbits - good creations.
Steefs - good creations.

Fangus = practically human - I expect more from a game called ODDworld. BAD IDEA :fuzmad:

umad?

I liked the look of Fangus... but I guess that's a matter of tastes. Anyway with the fact that JAW is doing some work to port SW to the PS3, they might become familiar with the Stranger engine. So I don't think it wouldn't be too far fetched. I guess we'll have to wait to see how the SW port will be received by the public.

I hope it does well, I don't want JAW to be working on nothing but "abe games" because the nostalgic "fan" can't open his mind to anything else.

Becoming familiar with a game engine does not mean or imply much of anything other than the fact that they are CAPABLE of using it for what they've announced it is being used for. To come to such a conclusion that they will probably do Fangus based on that is ridiculous.

Perhaps you couldn't be bothered to read my post stating mudokon, gabbits, and steefs are great characters......that does not translate into "I ONLY WANT ABE GAMES EVERYTHING ELSE SUCKS" since Abe is not a Gabbit or a Steef. That means I have played and enjoyed ALL FOUR Oddworld games (though Munch was flawed due to being rushed). I think I made it rather clear in my previous post WHY I am not interested in a Fangus game, and it has NOTHING to do with being "nostalgic" or "close-minded" it has to do with not wanting Oddworld to be ruined with a typical scifi war game with characters that look human. If I wanted that I could always pick up one of the dozens of 360 bargain bin crap. What made Oddworld so great is the fact that it was so different from anything else, Fangus was NOT.

That is not being close minded, that is wanting something UNIQUE.

I am open to any idea that is GOOD and I have full confidence JAW will deliver. ALSO...sorry I destroyed your hard-on for Fangus, but what kind of "Oddworld Fan" would NOT want another Abe game?? ;) Or for that matter, prefer Fangus (which can barely be considered Oddworld anyway) over a continuation of the quintology, such as Squeek??

Perhaps it would not upset me so much if it were released just as The Brutal Ballad of Fangus Klot and NOT Oddworld: The Brutal Ballad of Fangus Klot - then I wouldn't have such high expectations out of it.

I want a good game. The reason why most people want another Abe game is not because they love Abe - if that were the case, they'd love a Tetris clone with an animated figure of Abe in the corner - it's because the gameplay and story of the Abe games were so wonderful.

So, frankly, I don't care if the next new game Oddmobb produce has Abe, Munch, Squeek, Nod, Forté, Stranger, Fangus, Coolio or Whatsit... I just want a good game.

Wasn't Forté an unconfirmed find by either Max or Xav?

It isnt a conclusion, merely a speculation. For people to go on long crazy rants before reading a post properly is ridiculous.

And considering a small, fairly new dev-team are capable of using an engine as good as the "Stranger engine", it seems pretty sensible to assume they would indeed use it again- Im not saying they will. Just seems fairly probable.

But hey, fair enough if you dont like the look of the game.

The Stranger engine was programmed for the Xbox. If they're porting the game to PS3 and upping the graphical quality, they will have developed a new engine. It might be based on the old one, but the graphics capablity and memory management will be new.

Sorry, there appear to be a misunderstanding, my post wasn't specifically pointed towards what you were saying. I wasn't calling you in particular "narrow minded" or "nostalgic" either.

Anyway, come to think of it, yeah I am an oddworld fan, and yeah I rather have another game based on the stranger engine (like Fangus was supposed to be) then an other game like the original 2D Abe games.

I guess you can't please everyone as not everyone has the same tastes.

You really didn't have to reiterate that, I think we got your point the first time around.

2d or 3d...either would be great. To be honest I have a feeling JAW will be doing both. I don't have a problem with them re-using the "Stranger Engine." If they are familiar with it, why not? It looked good on the original xbox, it will look even better now. It doesn't matter what game the engine is used for as long as it's a GOOD game, I agree with you the story and gameplay are the most important parts. I also don't mind whichever route they decide to go, (Abe, Munch, Stranger, Squeek, Sligstorm, etc.) since I know any of those would be great. All of the previous games have loose ends as well so I know most people would like to see what happens next.

I might even be interested in Fangus IF they would make him look like an Oddworld character (and by that I mean different, something someone spent a lot of time thinking up) and his environments look like an Oddworld game (and not a Halo clone), since as I stated before the insanity element would be interesting.

I hope you all understand I am a big fan of the series, I just want it to continue to be unique, and above all else, ODD. (Which was my main reason for disliking Fangus.)

For the record, JAW would probably not be doing the character designing. That would come straight from Oddmobb headquarters.

I agree with Caidoozap. Fangus would be fun if it didn't look like Halo with Fuckin Goats. But it might not get made. And the site might not be updated for another couple of months. And Abemudokon isn't saying anything about the new supposed project that's coming out. So I guess I will just have to think about it in my head and play other video games and join the circus and argue with other people on this here forum.

How does any of this look like Halo?
http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...php?menu=CABB1

Guns 'n stuff

Why do another stand-alone Oddworld game like Stranger's Wrath, when they could continue the quintology?! That they won't, probably...

Anyways, Fangus is way to human to be an Oddworld character and the environments have, also, human-like structures that shouldn't be there...

... because Oddworld should be ODD!

I thought brutal ballad would be a freaking great game, the art was awesome and looked oddworldish, just look at the weaponry and area schemes.

Well not really Halo, that was a bad choice of words, but it looks too much the standard dark shooters that have been released lately for my taste. And I really don't like the human(ish) character design. Not at ALL. It looks like crap.

Obviously something in it had to be odd, but you have to admit that most of the art is human-like! :dead:

This argument is academic, not just from our being uninfluential fans, but from the existing history of the development of Fangus. When the design team started making the characters and environment more human and earthly, Lorne already relocated the action off-Oddworld. If the game’s production were to recommence, it would either use the same off-Oddworld design and setting, or be redesigned to meet the visual requirements of being an Oddworld production. Either way, the story and ethos would be typically Oddworldian.

Fangus just looks a lot like Stranger only just a bit more human. I've got to say the concept art looks very good. the environments look epic.

:fuzconf:Did you even PLAY the other Oddworld games? It looked nothing like the others, the weaponry looked like any other shooting game! As a matter of fact it is well known that even Lorne was losing interest once he saw the direction the art and game was going (and yes, at that point he did decide that it would no longer take place on Oddworld). The fact that it spiraled so out of control and so far from what he originally intended was probably the final nail in the coffin for him (Note I said FINAL, I'm aware there were many other factors) which is why we haven't seen another game in so long.

Also Ziggy you're right about the Halo comparison, that's the first thing that popped in my head as well. Weapons, Vehicles...Armor....bleghhh

Max the Mug I absolutely agree that the story of Fangus (at least what we know) is still very Oddworldian, as I refreshed my memory recently by reading up on it. :D

Just because it's different doesn't mean it would be bad.

If it had been the FINAL nail, the game wouldn't have progressed far enough to be announced. The FINAL nail was some unethical behaviour on the part of their publishers that caused him to be disillusioned about the games industry.

Your argument to my comment stating that the weaponry looked like any other shooting game is "Just because it's different?" :confused:

I already stated that I am aware there were many other factors - that includes the publishers raping him up the ass. Who's to say which one was the final nail, diillusion due to publishers, or disillusion due to the development team's lack of originality. However it is clear Lorne was not nearly as interested after they took the more "realistic" approach.

So in that aspect they were BOTH nails, don't argue over which one came first. I think we can both agree at least, that the game has been laid to rest, so the nails are definitely there. Maybe it will be dug up some day but for now it is dead.

Okay, perhaps I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that Fangus didn't look like the other Oddworld games and thus it must be bad.

I think Lorne has the right to say it, and he has several times.

I'm not saying they're not both nails. Just that the event that actually caused him to cancel the game was the publishers being dicks.

Glad to know we're on the same page now. :fuzgrin:

I still think it looked like a solid game and I still wish to see it done one day. I loved the Stranger engine's gameplay and the dark tone the whole game was going to have got me excited as well.

Yeah but we love Abe's personality, his naivety and untraditional character traits are an essential part of the Abe games. I don't think the Abe games would've been the same without Abe and even though I liked Stranger's Wrath quite a lot I associate Oddworld with Abe more.

But if they want to make a new character I'm not gonna stop them, we'll always have the Abe games.