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OANST 03-08-2010 12:41 PM

So There's This
 
A mother in Tennessee is claiming that her daughter fatally shot herself in the stomach with a handgun she mistakenly believed to a Wii controller. At least, that's her only explanation for what could have happened.

The gun was left lying around by the victim's stepfather, who claims he produced the .380 caliber pistol to deal with a potential prowler, then left it on a table and promptly forgot all about it. Even more astoundingly, the mother was in the same room as the three-year-old girl when she picked the gun up and managed to shoot herself with it.

This story is all kinds of f*cked up. A man leaving a gun -- safety off -- in easy reach of a three-year-old, and a mother who is in the same room as a kid playing with the deadly weapon and somehow not noticing. That's before we even get into the fanciful notion of a child, however young, somehow confusing a gun with a controller.




Story and text courtesy of destructoid. Because I'm too lazy to wrap quote tags, that's why.

Wings of Fire 03-08-2010 12:44 PM

This was obviously caused by exposition to violent computer games.

Seriously though, the parents should get jailtime for negligence at least. This is a prime example of why people shouldn't own guns.

Mac Sirloin 03-08-2010 01:17 PM

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A mother in Tennessee
"This can't be good."

Sekto Springs 03-08-2010 02:58 PM

That's pretty fucking terrible.
Irresponsible parents are the worst, and I get a knot in my stomach when I hear about a child dying on behalf of the parents' negligence.

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That's before we even get into the fanciful notion of a child, however young, somehow confusing a gun with a controller.
Yeeeaahh...
I'm thinking the only logical scenario here is that they have a rail shooter game of some kind with the gun-shaped controllers. In that case, I could understand how a girl her age couldn't make make the distinction between the two. I assume they're trying to say she couldn't tell the difference between her daddy's piece and a wii remote though. Strange. Not impossible, but strange.

OANST 03-08-2010 03:01 PM

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Yeeeaahh...
I'm thinking the only logical scenario here is that they have a rail shooter game of some kind with the gun-shaped controllers. In that case, I could understand how a girl her age couldn't make make the distinction between the two.

That makes sense until you start wondering how often children point even fake guns at themselves. At other people, sure. At themselves? Hmmm.

used:) 03-08-2010 03:06 PM

Good God.

Sekto Springs 03-08-2010 03:08 PM

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That makes sense until you start wondering how often children point even fake guns at themselves. At other people, sure. At themselves? Hmmm.
Also, the likelihood of a three year old girl being strong enough (or coordinated enough for that matter) to shoot herself in the stomach sounds like quite the feat. Was the girl a contortionist or something?

I don't know much about guns, but I do know that most guns require quite a bit of pressure on the trigger before going off. When I was her age, I wasn't even strong enough to turn the steering wheel of the car, let alone squeeze the trigger of a pistol while holding it in such an awkward position.

OANST 03-08-2010 03:10 PM

Yeah. Did she pull the trigger with her thumbs? I don't know, man. I don't know.

Sekto Springs 03-08-2010 03:13 PM

NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE!

Nate 03-08-2010 04:21 PM

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This was obviously caused by exposition to violent computer games.

Sooo... longwinded explanatory game dialogue is dangerous now?

Wings of Fire 03-08-2010 04:24 PM

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Sooo... longwinded explanatory game dialogue is dangerous now?

Everything to do with video games is dangerous.

Everything.

Aleks55 03-08-2010 07:25 PM

Do they even own a freaking Wii? I know there is an odd gun thing for the Wii, but it sure as hell doesn't look like a freaking hand gun. Also I kinda have to agree with you, how does a 3 year old manage to aim at its own stomach and pull the trigger, gun trigger can be pretty hard to pull.

Sad thing is alot of people aren't going to question this and simply go with "Well they blamed video games they must be telling the truth"

Taco 03-08-2010 07:50 PM

That's a retarded claim to make. A child even that young cant get a gun and wii controller mistaken. She probably though "I'm gonna play with daddy's toy!". Kinda seems like the parents either wanted to get rid of her which is despicable, they're severely stupid, or were high. Or maybe a combination.

Sekto Springs 03-08-2010 07:56 PM

I don't think this particular event will really add any weight to the "Videogames = bad" argument. It's just unfortunate, nobody's at fault besides the parents.

Also, exactly how the hell do they know she mistook it for a Wii controller?
Did she say "Wii would like to play" before shooting herself? I'm not even joking, I just want to know how they assembled this for the press.

Pilot 03-08-2010 08:00 PM

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Everything to do with video games is dangerous.

Especially those with a "Bad For Everyone" ESRB rating.

Sekto Springs 03-08-2010 08:33 PM

http://spong.com/news/d/e/deathkillc233863l.jpg

Pilot 03-08-2010 08:36 PM

Aw.

Sekto Springs 03-08-2010 08:38 PM

We already turned this into a completely different discussion. High five, everyone!

Pilot 03-08-2010 08:58 PM

So there's this: As far as violent video games, I think I most prefer Grand Theft Auto: Kansas.


T-nex 03-08-2010 09:43 PM

God you guys suck...


Anyway I think the parents may be trying to displace the blame or something.

Havoc 03-09-2010 06:21 AM

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Also, the likelihood of a three year old girl being strong enough (or coordinated enough for that matter) to shoot herself in the stomach sounds like quite the feat. Was the girl a contortionist or something?

That's funny, on a Dutch news site where this story was posted someone said the exact same thing. I'm wondering it too, .380 doesn't have a very light trigger if I'm not mistaking.

MA 03-09-2010 06:46 AM

why the fuck did this thing even have the clip in? if its for protection, typically at night, then you slide the clip in before you go to bed, and put it somewhere safe out of sight. you never leave the clip in loaded during the hours you're not home or are in no need of it, and you never leave it anywhere in the vicinity of actual ammunition when you have children running around.

or even better, don't own one.

Wings of Fire 03-09-2010 06:49 AM

So is there any evidence, apart from the mother's testimony, that it was an accident?

AlienMagi 03-09-2010 07:24 AM

Is there a link to your news source or anything?

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Seriously though, the parents should get jailtime for negligence at least. This is a prime example of why people shouldn't own guns.

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MeechMunchie 03-09-2010 08:21 AM

This is just horrible. I don't see how a mother could not notice her child picking up a gun in the same room, let alone why a father would leave a gun lying around near such a young person. Either they're hiding something, or they're awful parents. Guns are bad, mmkay?

Strike Witch 03-09-2010 12:36 PM

A bit more information, including the "peripheral"

OANST 03-09-2010 12:43 PM

The gun is very lifelike. This in no way excuses the actions of the parents, however.

Pilot 03-09-2010 02:07 PM

You guys all seem to think you know what you are talking about, based on what you think happened by reading a copy-pasted news article (or by picking up contextual clues and not even reading the post) Is it any of our business?

OANST 03-09-2010 02:14 PM

As it pertains to our opinion of gun laws in our country? Yes? As it pertains to the safety of our children and ourselves? Yes?

I do understand what you are saying, though. Odds are that the parents of this child are devastated beyond belief, and a group of strangers talking glibly about the death of a child doesn't do anything to help the situation.

Pilot 03-09-2010 02:19 PM

Yep, pretty much. I just think it's so easy to make judgements of others and situations we don't really understand the circumstances of; based on second-third-fourth-hand information sometimes. In my opinion, this only creates a larger problem.

enchilado 03-10-2010 12:42 AM

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Also, the likelihood of a three year old girl being strong enough

Yes, I was thinking the same thing myself. And I think the mother shot the girl.

Nate 03-10-2010 03:05 AM

The pathologists would be able to work that shit out. They can tell how far the gun was from the child and what angle it was being held on.

Sekto Springs 03-10-2010 04:14 AM

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Yep, pretty much. I just think it's so easy to make judgements of others and situations we don't really understand the circumstances of; based on second-third-fourth-hand information sometimes. In my opinion, this only creates a larger problem. .
True, it's all hearsay and conjecture. But I like to keep in mind that we're discussing the article itself, not necessarily what may or may not have actually happened. The press sensationalizes everything. When it comes to family tragedies, the stories often write themselves with a prejudice against the parents to give it a more dramatic feel; "Did Mommy Kill Her Little Girl?".

I'm just waiting to see how the media twists this one around. "Wii Kills Innocent Three Year Old! Nintendo Being Sued For Millions!"

Pilot 03-10-2010 07:27 PM

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"Did Mommy Kill Her Little Girl?".

Sure, and then they'll photoshop a very unflattering picture of Mommy into a pit of flames with Gays. Polarizing sensation.

"Is Mommy Gay For Her Little Boy?"

OANST 03-11-2010 06:11 AM

Well? Is she?

MeechMunchie 03-11-2010 08:00 AM

To those comments complaining about making judgements of the situation: It was posted in a forum, therefore saying 'I think this is interesting I would like to hear your views'. I agree with not jumping to conclusions, but submitting something for discussion will lead to judgements being made.

scrab queen 03-11-2010 11:06 AM

It's horrible.

But at the same time it's so terribly idiotic that the only thing I can think of at the moment was: Natural selection at it's finest.

At least these people won't pass on their fucked upness/stupidity/whathaveyou

OANST 03-11-2010 11:15 AM

Whoah. What the fuck? You're willing to say that the death of a three year old is natural selection at it's finest? Some of the world's greatest minds have come from worse families, and nastier circumstances. If the child had accidentally shot the mother, (who as an adult should have known fucking better) then that would have been one thing. But who the fuck could possibly be so callous and stupid as to proclaim "natural selection at it's finest" to this?

scrab queen 03-11-2010 11:29 AM

Someone callous and stupid who doesn't quite care about these things as much as they should?

Pilot 03-11-2010 11:29 AM

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To those comments complaining about making judgements of the situation: It was posted in a forum, therefore saying 'I think this is interesting I would like to hear your views'. I agree with not jumping to conclusions, but submitting something for discussion will lead to judgements being made.

Hey, stop complaining about complaining.