Incest!
 

I just came across a post that spawned an idea for a serious discussion which hasn't been discussed to great lengths, as far as I know anyway. We've discussed just about any other 'on the edge' topic so why not this one.

What is your stance on incest? Not just the sexual act but also relationships, kids, getting married, you name it.

Two relatives who have a consenting sexual relationship is more common then you would believe, brothers and sisters mostly. Often it's just of a sexual nature but there are actually a lot of related couples out there. I believe some of them even have had children (which I personally think is crossing over the line).

So, thoughts?

I think MA was joking.

Incest=bad. There's no going around it. It's socially stigmatic, genetically impractical, and just generally gross.

Yeah, incest and bestiality are the two issues of sexual liberation where my common sense tends to take a step in front of my liberality.

Incest is wrong, it shouldn't happen, in any circumstance. You'd have to have something seriously wrong with you to actually be sexually attracted to a member of your family. It baffles me. And when they start having kids... no plz.

I think it's wrong. It's unnatural. This is most likely what I am expected to say, but siblings are not supposed to be in love with each other, they are just meant to love each other. I especially think that having children with your sibling is terrible. Obviously, because of the situation, the child would quite likely grow up being disabled, and I think that this is cruel considering that the birth was avoidable. You could argue that every birth is avoidable, but the siblings/other relatives should know what they're doing and thus should avoid having children for the child's sake.

to make it offical, i was joking.

incest is just plain disturbing. it isnt good for you, to put it in layman terms.

I know you were joking, don't crap your pants.

I agree that siblings having kids is taking it too far. However I do think that as long as they aren't hurting anyone else they should be able to do as they please. If that means humping your dad every day then so be it :s.

By any means though, I don't think a sexual relationship with a blood relative should be classed as illegal. Despite it being a moral grey or black area for a lot people.

Yeah, I agree with Havoc.

And now I feel dirty...

Consensual adult incest without babbies is a victimless crime. Don't know if want though,

I love you, Anonyman. It just so happens that I pronounce "babies" "babbies".

I bet not one of you knew that I had a strong South Kirkby accent, did you?

Or that I shagged my brother?

So you and your brother rough eachother up now?

I knew none of those things. Did your brother know any of those things?

It isn't often that I laugh out properly at a forum post. Congratulations.

too late Havoc.

that was brilliant WoF.

Yeah, incest is just plain obscene. I don't really see any good argument in its defense.

It's suddenly incest when YOU want to bang your sister.

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I said fuck all.

Why does my tiger have a cigarette in his mouth?

I agree with those that are pro-incest. You know who you are. So long as it doesn’t result in offspring or develop into a ‘proper’ relationship, a casual, consensual (and perheps please low-key) sexual act between two members of the same family doesn’t seem intrinsically bad.

But I won’t be practising this, thank you very much.

Pro-incest? Fuck that. I'm not pro-abortion, either, no matter how many Catholics call me that.

Though for babby killin', it's all about choice
Dont know about incest.

Haven't you noticed the trend?

I don't see the problem if offspring aren't involved.

Alcar...

I'm not morally opposed to it, though the thought of my own family members makes me shudder.

Now, a threesome with hot identical twins, on the other hand...

Even that squicks me, quite honestly.

Pretty much this.

I could be off my nut here, but aren't royal family bloodlines known to inbreed? Aren't there stories of royal families having babby after babby until one is 'acceptable' as an heir, due to the genetic difficulties encountered with inbreeding; killing off the hideously deformed ones?

I vaguely recall there being stories like this; royal families believing they were 'cursed' because of all the hideously deformed children.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._segundo80.png
Yeah. that's a serious picture.

Saying relatives shouldn't be able o have sexual relationship is just like saying gays shouldn't be able to have a sexual relationship IMO. If 2 people really love each other I think they should be able to have sex regardless whether they're related.

But just like homosexualism I think incest is disgusting and could never see myself doing it.

Although no matter how much two relatives love each other they shouldn't be able to have children. An inbred child shouldn't have to suffer.

History has many examples of people shacking up with their cousins. It's not illegal and has low risk of genetic problems (increased, of course, if multiple generations keep it in the family).

Incest is a weird one (metaphorically and literally)

But the worst kind is unknown incest where 2 people get married or somthing and don't know they are related.

But I agree with lots said here, I mean if no mega-unprotected-sex-with-no-morning-after-pill occurs then I see no problem

I'm going to have to be persuaded on the side of Maxy/Peter. As long as no-one's being hurt and it's all consensual, if someone wants to have incestuous sex it's really none of my business.

To me it's the same thing as bestiality. However, I wouldn't necessarily be 'up' for it myself and the thought of my family [like Nate] makes me shudder and die a little inside...

- Rexy

Totally agree...

That would be fun to see happen. Can you imagine the look on someone's face? :p.

As someone who never had any brothers and sisters to grow up with (I have a half brother and half sister) I don't know the sibling love feeling. On the matter of incest I've always thought to myself that if I would have had a sister I wouldn't have had any problems with it if something did happen with me and the supposed sister. The idea always appealed to me because it's so 'not done' and as you all know I'm into things that are 'not done' :fuzblink:.

So my question to people who do have a brother/sister, has there ever been a time where you had a thought of things that could happen between you and your sibling? I'd assume a hormone driven teenager has had such thoughts at least once, but for all I know the sibling bond is much stronger than that, I dunno.

According to Wikipedia (Which isn't always 100% true about everything)
Inbreeding causes the following;

* reduced fertility both in litter size and sperm viability
* increased genetic disorders
* fluctuating facial asymmetry
* lower birth rate
* higher infant mortality
* slower growth rate
* smaller adult size
* loss of immune system function.

The reduced genetic diversity that results from inbreeding may mean a species may not be able to adapt to changes in environmental conditions. Each individual will have similar immune systems, as immune systems are genetically based. Where a species becomes endangered, the population may fall below a minimum whereby the forced interbreeding between the remaining animals will result in extinction.

THATS FUCKED UP! Kids having kids with there parents! :O

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I find incest messed up. The thought of been attracted to someone in your family makes me cringe.

I reckon if you want to, to keep it in your fantasys.

There is a girl at our school who is apparently imbred and people bully the shit out of her. She dosent deny it though which I find stupid, you wouldn't want people knowing that kind of thing.

Unless she enjoyed the attention.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...arreno_002.jpg

Any suprises he looked like this and had several things wrong with him mentally?

King Tut had a long list of medical problems which I think are believed to have come from incest.

I guess im one of those who doesn't have a grudge against incest at all, as long as it's consensual, in the legal sex-age(dunno what it's called) and they don't make children... As much as it pains me that they can't have children, it's not secret that offspring from siblings may have on or more problems... If that was to be fixed somehow I wouldn't have a thing against that either.

If people think incest is wrong, they should rethink their openness... Cos it doesn't hurt anyone(as long as the above conditions are true of course).

EDIT: oh.. And just wanted to say that I myself couldn't ever be with any sibling and I dont find the thought hot to me at all.

I’m surprised by the amount of tollerance towards limited incestuous relationships that’s being expressed here. It’s such glimpses of a thoughtful, understanding community that make me glad I stick around.

I love you guys. Incestuously.

I completely understand the opposing view of incest; in turn I appreciate the tollerance between the opinions themselves.

I suppose I'm OKAY with it as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's individual rights.

This must be how conservative libertarians feel about gay marriage.