Meech Environment and Fleech leashes
 

You know how Scrabs live in deserts, and Paramites live in forests. What kind of environment do you think Meeches live in? I think grasslands, because it's kind of like a mix of desert and forest.

Sewers, landfills, dumpsters... pretty much filthy, dark places, methinks. :D

Why would Meeches live in a place made by industrialists?

Because sewers are filthy and dark.
I don't know, they just seem like the kind of creatures who would like that sort of thing. They sort of remind me of cockroaches.

Meeches live in the wild. And anyway, Meeches became extinct probably because Meech Munchies were so popular. I don't think anyone would want to eat food made out of something found in a sewer.

Awww, c'mon, loads of people eat rats!

lol only kidding.

But seriously, people do eat cockroaches in some places. Just check this out: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...rkies.badtaste

And if you like that get a load of this: http://astore.amazon.com/planetscott

Mmmm...tequila flavored worm suckers...

EDIT: I was wrong, people do eat rats: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/R...ow/2209102.cms

Maybe they lived in deserts and forests?

How DO you know that they lived in the wild? We don't have ANY clue on the biology of Meeches at all. All we know about them is that they were made into Meech munchies. So for all we know, Meeches could've lived in industrial places like sewers and whatnot.

Well...ahem....anyways, this is just a total guesstimate but I would like to believe that they lived in humid tropical regions like rain forests. I don't know how. Their early designs looked like they had wet skin (I have no clue why. It was just how it seemed to me).

The only creatures that don't live in the wild are creatures that are made by Vykkers, and Oddworld Inhabitants hadn't thought of Vykkers while making Abe's Oddysee.

Again, I must say, we have no clue how many creatures in Oddworld lived. Meeches might actually be at home in industrial places. I'm not saying they don't live in the wild, I'm just saying that we have no clue how they lived.

Plus. Fleeches were apparently made by Vykkers (Or atleast upgraded by them) and they live in the wild.

The only details given by Alf (far from the most reliable source) are that Meeches run in packs and they have been found both in fields and on plateaus.

Fleeches only live in the wild because they're flushed down the toilet.

In 1996, Steven Olds had came up with an underground laboratory for Vykkers in Munch's Oddysee. Steven Olds worked on Abe's Oddysee as well, which was released in 1997.

Meeches were suppose to have lived in the area that was later known as Rupture Farms 1029. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they were also suppose to have lived in places like Scrabania and Paramonia...

Because they were wild animals. :rolleyes: Equally, they could have lived in sewers for all we know. Oddworld Rats do the same, and according to Alf they can be eaten as a delicacy. Slaveless is right: according to Matt Lee, ‘[Meeches’] habitat was local to the area of RuptureFarms and not found beyond this region’.

I don't think people ate Meech Munchies just so they could beat the world record.

It's almost as if Rupture Farms specifically targeted vulnerable and commercially non-viable species to make into their most popular products. It's astonishing to propose that they managed this by accident, but surely they are not such bad businessgluks as to have done it on purpose.

What if RuptureFarms was once Meechonia? It might have been a grassland.

Why does it need to be called Meechonia? Monsiac Lines is not called Mudokonia and neither is the Mongo River called Grubbonia.

http://www.oddworld.com/firsttenyear...alf07_04.shtml

Yes, the person who wrote it called it Meecharnia, but as Alf said, it would be similar to Paramonia and Scrabania.

"Meecharnia" is a name made up by the guy who wrote the question...

this place has no official name yet

It would only be an appropriate name if the place was a) inhabited by Muds and b) those Muds worshipped Meeches. We know not whether either of those are true.

But we know from Alf's answer, that the place with Meeches is similar to Paramonia and Scrabania.

Not necessarily. There are a lot of ifs and maybes in that question.

But we know that Meeches are sacred (why else would Abe travel through Meecharnia?).

He didn't.

And to the best of my knowledge, he also travles through the Slig Barracks, but I doubt the Mudokon's consider them sacred.

Abe didn't travel through Meechania.

If there were still Meeches and if mudokons worshipped them, then Abe would have had to traverse Meechania.

We know that item (i) is not true but we don't know whether item (ii) was true. Considering that it was said that they were not a hugely widespread species, it is more than possible that Mudokons did not have contact with them.

According to your logic Meeches are sacred because Abe travels through Meecharnia and Abe travels through Meecharnia because Meeches are sacred? :D petitio principii is always a good fallacy in any circumstances.

Also if you read the question carefully the guy basically asks Alf 'If there was a Meecharnia that was like Scrabania or Paramonia would it have been included. The answer would have been yes if Sligs were used.

He had to travel to Slig Barracks to open one of the electric barriers to SoulStorm Brewery. As Alf said, he would have to travel through Meecharnia if Meeches weren't extinct. This makes Meeches sacred.

The tribe that worshiped paramites was the Mudomo tribe, and the Mudanchee tribe worshiped scrabs.

But there used to be an under ground tribe of meech worshipers, the Mudmeechees/ Mudonchos.

This is a theory.

This topic was about the environment Meeches live in, right?

Look at this map: http://www.oddworld.com/alf/alfictio...assets/map.jpg

Though it's not as easy to tell as it is in the book, the environment structure under the Paramonia and Scrabania icons vaguely reveals environment (a sort of yellow desert area under Scrabania, and a green one under Paramonia). If this is accurate, then the large, green area Rupture Farms is located on should theoretically be Meech habitat. Not much to tell from here, though...

Dunno about the other map, considering the Scrabania/Paramonia colours have almost exactly the same environmental background, it seems silly.

Given how large Rupture Farms is, and that it is built were meeches lived, I would think that they lived on grassy planes. After all, Rupture Farms woulds need a large semi-flat area.

It makes sense to me.

seems that's some pretty good thinking

Why didn't I think of that? Flat land was mentioned in factory building in Geography last week.

Maybe a savannah type area? Lorne did compare them to Hyenas, and that's where they live. Makes sense with their anatomy too, perhaps.

Paramites have also been compared to hyenas, but their native environment isn’t savannah. Nonetheless, I’ve always pictured Meeches as living on flat plains and grasslands. Savannah could make sense as it’s not unreasonable to regard it as a transitionary biome between desert and forest. Because of this, savannah can also be quite a fragile environment, being eaten into by either desertification or natural succession into a more forested landscape. This might make ‘Meecharnia’ the small geographic area Meeches were confined to.

I think savannah's only remain such with heavy grazing. This either means that elums are more ravenous and/or numerous than we have previously anticipated, or else (and quite probably) there are more herbivorous species local to the region than we have been exposed to. Either way, the meeches have their prey.

This is not what the Dear Alf question and answers says. The questioner only asks if Abe would have to travel through ‘Meecharnia’ had the Meeches not been extinct. Alf gives the affirmative. Either way, this has no direct bearing on whether the Mudokons worshipped Meeches.

When were Paramites compared to Hyenas? I have no recollection of this being mentioned anywhere, seldom officially.

I highly doubt Elums being the only herbivorous creatures, given we know of 4 predatory ones already.

‘Oddfellows: Character Design the Oddworld Way’ was a lecture given by Farzad, Paul O’Connor and Chris Ulm at GDC ’01. They describe the behaviour of a Paramite as being ‘a cross between a spider and a hyena’.

That's something I've not heard of before...