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Wil 02-10-2008 03:08 AM

Oddworld Questions & Answers VII
 
Welcome to the seventh edition of Oddworld Questions & Answers, one of the Oddworld Forums’ oldest traditions.

What do I post here?

This unofficial Q&A is intended to reduce the amount small threads in Oddworld Discussion that never last long, and exist only to answer a simple question. Some good questions that have been asked in the past include: Who is the leader of the Mudokons? What does ‘Zulag’ mean? What are the MameGame Generators? Members should feel free to contribute possible answers.

This is also a media request thread. Ask for pictures, sound files, videos, and links here.

I have a question!

Radical! But before you ask it, please check to make sure your question isn’t already answered by Oddworld Inhabitants’ official F.A.Q., the Oddworld Library’s unofficial F.A.Q., or in a previous edition of Oddworld Q&A (which come with complete contents listing all the questions asked). Also, try searching for your answer on the Oddworld Forums by using its own search engine, or using Google by adding ‘site:www.oddworldforums.net’ to your search term. Trust me, everything we know about Chroniclers, Khanzumerz, Squeek, and SligStorm has been talked about on here a dozen times.

Some questions don’t belong in this thread.
  • Questions about how you can obtain Oddworld games or merchandise should go in the Buy List thread.
  • Questions about gameplay or technical problems should go in the Oddworld Help forum.
  • Questions about the Oddworld Forums should go in the Forum Suggestions & Help forum.

I’d like to request a picture/video/link

Super stuff. Just be aware that The Oddworld Archives already hosts a huge collection of images, audio, video, archived websites, and links to interviews, designer diaries, and more! Please look there before asking here.

Wil 02-10-2008 03:18 AM

Links to previous editions
 

Previous editions of Oddworld Questions & Answers

Previous editions of Picture Request


Fuzzle Guy 02-10-2008 03:29 AM

Yet another version kicks off.

I know this is unlikely, but does anyone have a bigger version of this picture http://oddworldlibrary.net/archives/...W/RASW0006.jpg

I ask because I'm trying to add it to the other one similar to this but from the other games, the problem is they are half the size of Abe and everyone.

Wil 02-10-2008 03:42 AM

Ah, damnit. When I had a copy of the Oddworld licensing guide I’d have been able to give you a better version. But my hard drive crashed and Xav’s laptop got stolen, so I’m afraid we can’t help you with that one.

Fuzzle Guy 02-10-2008 04:07 AM

Lol, nevermind then. I'll find a way around it.

abe is now! 02-12-2008 04:54 AM

I asked in the old thread what is a Brewery to Be. Now I know what it is. A newspaper of MO tells that plans for SoulStorm Micro Brwery have been halted. So, has SoulStorm Micro Brewery been built?

Wil 02-12-2008 05:03 AM

The construction in ‘Brewery to Be’ is the SoulStorm Micro Brewery. ‘Brewery to Be’ is just the name of the game level. Obviously that micro brewery was never built, but there are most likely additional SoulStorm Brew breweries given the amount of the stuff that’s still available.

abe is now! 02-12-2008 06:41 AM

I don't know how a Slig become a Big Bro Slig. Must he drink SoulStorm Brew?

Wings of Fire 02-12-2008 06:46 AM

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I don't know how a Slig become a Big Bro Slig. Must he drink SoulStorm Brew?

Good ol' fashioned steroids for them.

Wil 02-12-2008 01:44 PM

Oddworld’s steroids can dramatically alter bone structure to turn mature workers into biological soldiers.

Bullet Magnet 02-12-2008 02:00 PM

Surely there are horrific side-effects?

Wil 02-12-2008 03:16 PM

I don’t think they have penises that can shrink. Sligs are like butterflies, anyway, short‐lived and expendable.

Zerox 02-13-2008 02:17 AM

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Surely there are horrific side-effects?

I think mentally, your ordinary run-of-the-mill Slig is already mentally scarred and pretty much ruined in that aspect to the point it's not going to get any worse. I'd suspect Big Bros have reduced lifespans due to increased biological activity. I'm certain the worst effects would be mental, and that isn't so much an issue for Sligs which do as ordered anyway. The effect on other Oddworldian species could be vastly different.

Nate 02-13-2008 03:43 AM

Plus they're so big that they can no longer take off their pants.

Zozo the Zrilufet 02-13-2008 03:55 AM

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Good ol' fashioned steroids for them.

And growlth gormones.

@ Zerox: I think the Oddworld site says that a big bro's lifespan is 20 years, which seems the same to me. Plus I think their eyes are visible through the visors in some pictures.

Zerox 02-13-2008 06:18 AM

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And growlth gormones.

@ Zerox: I think the Oddworld site says that a big bro's lifespan is 20 years, which seems the same to me. Plus I think their eyes are visible through the visors in some pictures.

Steroids are growth hormones. And what does eyes through the visors have to do with anything?

Do ordinary Sligs only live 20 years? That doesn't sound much, considering Mudokons on average live twice that.

Fuzzle Guy 02-13-2008 11:11 AM

Where does it say that Abes name is Abraham Lure. In the Art book it says that it was a name considered for Abe, alongside Monkfish and Aben etc. But it doesn't actually say (In the art book anyway) that Abraham Lure is Abes full name.

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Do ordinary Sligs only live 20 years? That doesn't sound much, considering Mudokons on average live twice that.

Slig Statistics on Oddworld.com

Zerox 02-13-2008 12:09 PM

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Where does it say that Abes name is Abraham Lure. In the Art book it says that it was a name considered for Abe, alongside Monkfish and Aben etc. But it doesn't actually say (In the art book anyway) that Abraham Lure is Abes full name.

At the very least, that was originally planned to be Abe's full name, and whether it is canonically or not, that is the accepted full name by the Oddworld community.

Slaveless 02-13-2008 01:49 PM

I think it is safe to say that Abe was never named Abramham Lure, as I doubt the people who name them make up complicated ones. Espcially a last name, which kind of doesn't make a whole lot of sense in the Industerial world for Mudokons.

Note: Notice how all of the slave Mudokons we know of have three letter names. (aka Abe, Alf, and Bud)

Bullet Magnet 02-13-2008 03:27 PM

Sam...

Notice also how they are all shortened versions of longer names. Abraham, Alfred, Buddy, Samantha.

Slaveless 02-13-2008 03:32 PM

If they were to be named such, I guess they would never know, since they would be frequently called the simplified names by Sligs and other Mudokons (since their language doesn't get very sophiscated and they probably don't want to waste time saying such long names) so often they would forget it.

Fuzzle Guy 02-14-2008 01:27 AM

I thought Sligs called them things like Scum or their Slave number rather than their name. Maybe they chose their names themselves?

Alcar 02-14-2008 01:29 AM

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Note: Notice how all of the slave Mudokons we know of have three letter names. (aka Abe, Alf, and Bud)

Big Face is seven letters :p

Alcar...

Wil 02-14-2008 02:29 AM

Bill is four letters. Stumpy is six letters. Unless you shorten it to Stu, I guess.

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Abe DOES have a last name :fuzwink:

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Q: How did Abe® come across his name? I'll guess that the Glukkons wouldn't waste their "valuable" time naming their slaves, so who did? Did the Mudokon Queen Sam name him at birth, and if so how did he remember it?

Alf: Mudokons name each other. It's a lot less confusing that saying, "Hey, you!" all the time.


Alcar 02-14-2008 02:31 AM

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Bill is four letters.

Yes, but Bill -> Bil, no? :p

Alcar...

abe is now! 02-14-2008 04:20 AM

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Notice also how they are all shortened versions of longer names. Abraham, Alfred, Buddy, Samantha.

I think Abraham is who drawed that pic.
Anyway I think the name Abe symbolizes something for Mudokons: maybe it stand for saviour or for liberator... maybe in the ancient Mudokon language.

Wil 02-14-2008 04:26 AM

You think Abraham is the person who drew the Abe concept design? No, check the art book. It’s drawn by Steven Olds. From memory, I can’t recall any OWI member going by the name of Abe or Abraham.

Nate 02-14-2008 05:38 AM

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I think it is safe to say that Abe was never named Abramham Lure, as I doubt the people who name them make up complicated ones. Espcially a last name, which kind of doesn't make a whole lot of sense in the Industerial world for Mudokons.

It isn't safe to say that because we know for a fact that that was his name. If you had the art book you'd know that too.

The fact is that Abe was originally envisaged as a free mudokon fisherman (thus the 'Lure' surname). The name was dropped when OWI decided that it would feel more significant if he started the story ignorant of his spiritual heritage.

Bullet Magnet 02-14-2008 10:28 AM

Who in Odd's mother's uncle's social worker's name are Bill and Stumpy?

abe is now! 02-14-2008 12:00 PM

Where are Oddworld's industrial's homes? Why don't wee see any?

Wings of Fire 02-14-2008 12:04 PM

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Big Face is seven letters :p

Alcar...

Big Face is also a native Mudokon. :p

Wil 02-14-2008 12:23 PM

Bill was Slav - er, Employee of the, uh, Moment! at Necrum Mines. He likes playing hide-and-go-bump-into-walls, and his favourite album is Tommy. Stumpy is Abe’s room mate in RuptureFarms.

Slaveless 02-14-2008 02:45 PM

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It isn't safe to say that because we know for a fact that that was his name. If you had the art book you'd know that too.

The fact is that Abe was originally envisaged as a free mudokon fisherman (thus the 'Lure' surname). The name was dropped when OWI decided that it would feel more significant if he started the story ignorant of his spiritual heritage.

:fuzconf: I do have the art book.

I'm sorry I implied that Abe was never named that as in conception stage. I meant that Abe was never named Abramham Lure in the world we see in the Oddworld games. Or rather, the canon storylines that made it in the games. (This may be changed in the movies of course) I do agree (and I read, even before I got the book) that Abe was considered to be named Abramham Lure.

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Big Face is seven letters

It is also a name that lacks much sophiscation. I imagine modern Mudokons don't have very inventive names for their people, as opposed to names like Agatha, Brint, or Sneha.

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I think the name Abe symbolizes something for Mudokons: maybe it stand for saviour or for liberator... maybe in the ancient Mudokon language.

If Abe was named by enslaved Mudokons, I guess that isn't the reason why Abe was named Abe.

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A simple name like "Abe" seemed best for Oddworld's first alien-looking character.

I could never create a reason why he was named Abe in the canon version of Oddworld.

Bullet Magnet 02-14-2008 02:48 PM

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Where are Oddworld's industrial's homes? Why don't wee see any?

If storming the dining hall of Molluck's estate was conductive to shutting down Rupture Farms and freeing the scrubs I'm sure we would have seen it,

Most probably live in Nolybab, if they have homes at all. I wouldn't be surprised if they spent most of their time in their offices. Certainly the Vykkers lived in their airship.

abe is now! 02-15-2008 05:09 AM

Ok.

I want to tell about Mudokons's names that Abraham was who led Jews to Palestine from Ur. So it is possible that Abe (if he was really Abraham Lure) was chosen to lead Mudokons in their Promised Land, maybe out of Mudos.

Zerox 02-15-2008 05:52 AM

Abe is not just named by slaves. When he is 'wanted' a poster with a photo of him holding his own name up infront of him is present. Therefore we can assume that slaves are named by the industrialists for convenience as well as just by fellow workers.
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I recently realised that when Big Face 'resurrects' Abe or whatever he does, he draws the symbol for infinity in the ground. Was this done on purpose by OWI, and if so, why? A way of representing Abe's infinite lives? Though then, why would an ingame character do that, presuming that in the 'real' Oddworld universe, Abe wouldn't really have infinite lives like that.

Bullet Magnet 02-15-2008 06:18 AM

It might be infinity. It might be a twisted circle representing the warping of the cycle of life and death that the Big Face is performing.

abe is now! 02-15-2008 08:05 AM

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"Said our land was changing, was emblanced at best. He told me my fate, was to rescue the rest"
What does that part of text mean?

Wings of Fire 02-15-2008 08:16 AM

Imbalanced, it means the natural balance of the land like food cycles and things were messed up because of the deforestation and endangerment of species caused by the Maggoc Cartel.

Bullet Magnet 02-15-2008 08:24 AM

I kept hearing "in bounds". "Imbalanced" makes much more sense.