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Spirrow 10-09-2007 04:19 PM

Do you want children?
 
I think Ambi was the last person to make this thread.

The question is do you want children one day. (My apologies to older suckers like OANST who already have their offspring.) Remembering the old thread, there were some people who were totally grossed out at the thought of having them...And there were some who were more than happy to raise them one day.

Don't forget about adoption. Discuss.

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I would have added a poll if it hadn't timed out on me.

Mac Sirloin 10-09-2007 04:34 PM

Yes, and no, I don't know what kind of furture I child (concieved, not adopted) of mine would be brought into, including Global Warming and such things.

On a lighter note, I don't know if I want a girl or a boy, as 'Meanrock Destructotron' and "Staff Sargeant Max Fightmaster" are only good with the Y bearers.

OANST 10-09-2007 04:44 PM

I already have. Best thing that ever happened to me. I was a feckless, directionless stoner before my daughter was born.

toxicity 10-09-2007 05:11 PM

I doubt I will even get into a relationship with a woman, let alone have a child with one. Its alright though, I don't want any children. :p

skillya_glowi 10-09-2007 05:50 PM

I'd love to have children someday. Yes, this may sound tame, but my dream future does involve a good old-fashioned, cosy family. I'm just soppy that way :p

Preferrably more than two children, I have two boys' names picked out and two girls' names. The boys' are Rob(in) and Charles (Charlie) or even...LORNE, and the girls' are Marilyn and Lucinde. And I by no means plan on being a single mom, because that's damaging to everyone involved.

Alf Shall Rise 10-09-2007 06:45 PM

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I'd love to have children someday. Yes, this may sound tame, but my dream future does involve a good old-fashioned, cosy family. I'm just soppy that way :p

Preferrably more than two children, I have two boys' names picked out and two girls' names. The boys' are Rob(in) and Charles (Charlie) or even...LORNE, and the girls' are Marilyn and Lucinde. And I by no means plan on being a single mom, because that's damaging to everyone involved.

No Luke?! I'm offended.

As of now I don't think about having a child, so I can't answer this question just yet.

Patrick Vykkers 10-09-2007 07:01 PM

No, for 3 reasons;

1;I hate kids

2;I'm becoming a member of the Universal Church

3;I suffer from a terrible, vile genetic disorder I would rather kill myself than spread to an innocent child

moxco 10-09-2007 09:42 PM

Well I am 12 years old so maybe no just yet.... Although I would be more then happy to have sex.

Alcar 10-09-2007 10:00 PM

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Although I would be more then happy to have sex.

Sex is over-rated.

Children? Me? No. The concept sounds nice, but in practice I don't think I'd be able to maintain my sanity.

Alcar...

Patrick Vykkers 10-09-2007 11:20 PM

Amen (in a secular sense) Alcar.

MoxCo, if you ever have children, when they are 14, send them to a Grammar School.

Wolfpac 10-09-2007 11:41 PM

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I see my friends with their kids and they are so cute. But then I see my friends with their kids and they are so annoying. But like most things, you have to take the good with the bad.

E'l Scrabino 10-10-2007 12:44 AM

Well, i hope to have me some childs when i'm older. As Wolfpac said, they can be really annoying sometimes, but i'll just have to discipline them and stuff.

Strike Witch 10-10-2007 01:53 AM

No, because I /Fail/ at them.

Havoc 10-10-2007 02:20 AM

Oh hell to the no!!!

Hobo 10-10-2007 07:34 AM

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I'd love to have children someday. Yes, this may sound tame, but my dream future does involve a good old-fashioned, cosy family. I'm just soppy that way :p

Preferrably more than two children, I have two boys' names picked out and two girls' names. The boys' are Rob(in) and Charles (Charlie) or even...LORNE, and the girls' are Marilyn and Lucinde. And I by no means plan on being a single mom, because that's damaging to everyone involved.

Charles is a good strong masculine name. Everyone should call their children Charles

Bullet Magnet 10-10-2007 07:46 AM

Yeah, Hobo is an excellent candidate to spearhead the Name Them Charles campaign.

One day I will have kids (unless something horrible happens to the atmosphere, terra firma or the finality of physical death). Whether I'll adopt them or go au naturale I haven't decided. I don't really have any names planned, other than the specification that they should not be common nor ordinary, but also unlikely to get them beaten up at school. I for one will not be naming my son "Tallulah Fudge" blindly unaware of the inevitable divorce from his parents and/or suicide that will undoubtedly follow.

Or I could just get a parrot. Just as noisy and long-lived, but not nearly as expensive in the long run.

Laser 10-10-2007 07:54 AM

yes i would love children, mainly because i like being a child

I've thought of some names i would call my child:
Cornelius
Micheal
Isimbard
Jaufre etc

abe is now! 10-10-2007 08:06 AM

I am young and so I can't decide if I want children. But I think it is a god thing.
About names, I can't tell them because they are different to yours and you won't like them.

Zozo the Zrilufet 10-10-2007 10:06 AM

:pI think a psychic said to my mum that I'd get married and she'd get grandchildren, but for now....:pNo way, I'm too young.
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No, for 3 reasons;

1;I hate kids

:)Everyone does.

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2;I'm becoming a member of the Universal Church

:)I see kids in church all the time.

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3;I suffer from a terrible, vile genetic disorder I would rather kill myself than spread to an innocent child

Adoption sounds like fun.

Bullet Magnet 10-10-2007 10:29 AM

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:pI think a psychic said to my mum that I'd get married and she'd get grandchildren

Sounds like a brilliant psychic, if they can pull that out of the ether on demand.

Rex Tirano 10-10-2007 10:34 AM

Yes. 3 or 4 hopefully. :) I plan on one of them being adopted too!

And my favourite names at the moment are Hayleigh and Levi. Cute or what? ^_^

- Rexy

Hobo 10-10-2007 01:11 PM

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Yes. 3 or 4 hopefully. :) I plan on one of them being adopted too!

And my favourite names at the moment are Hayleigh and Levi. Cute or what? ^_^

- Rexy

It'd be cute if you spelled Hayley right and the other one wasn't some Jeans.



















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Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 02:21 PM

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:pI think a psychic said to my mum that I'd get married and she'd get grandchildren, but for now....:pNo way, I'm too young.

:)Everyone does.


:)I see kids in church all the time.


Adoption sounds like fun.

1; So, why should I have something I hate? That's bad for me, the child, and everyone else.

2;I will not be working with children, except in the historical context of the children's crusade and the Incarnation.

3;See 1.

Another reason I don't want kids is due to human overpopulation. Humans are genetically faulty and illogical, and until good prenatal genetic engineering is developed to eliminate genetic incorrectness such as autism or stupidity, I'd rather not breed.

Bullet Magnet 10-10-2007 02:52 PM

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until good prenatal genetic engineering is developed... I'd rather not breed.

If only everyone had that opinion, the world would be a better place for future generations.

Hang on a sec...

Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 03:00 PM

I'm not a racist or a fascist, if that's what your implying. I believe all races (though not all cultures) to be born equal. However, due to the link between race and poverty, people of some races do not receive as good an education or nutrition or other life services, which can lead to malnourished physiology and neurology. However, all this means is that more education is required worldwide (including, quite frankly, better education for white and asian people!), not that these people should be patronized by well meaning, overbearing humanitarians.

Eugenics doesn't have to involve coercion, abortion, concentration camps or pills. It's a misused scientific theory that simply means "Breeding for better humans", which could include breeding out , Down's Syndrome, dyslexia, dyspraxia, autism, cancer, and addictions. It's wrong to reject it out of hand because some people misuse it.

On Topic: If anyone had children, would they prefer male or female children?

Hobo 10-10-2007 03:06 PM

I have no preference for gender of children. It wouldn't effect how much I loved it.

Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 03:07 PM

It's great to hear that you'd love your child regardless of it's gender. Most admirable.

Bullet Magnet 10-10-2007 03:19 PM

I was actually referring to the "rather not breed" part, and alluding to voluntary human extinction. I happen to agree that gene therapy should be implemented where possible to elimination those hereditary diseases deemed severe enough to do so. But that is a slippery slope- how do we define what is a bad gene? If you don't begin with a watertight policy, we will find that we are breeding ourselves in ways we shouldn't.

As for gender, I have no preference- even if the option to choose became available, I'd decline. However, I'd be more comfortable with a boy, given that that is the only gender I know how to deal with- in any circumstance.

Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 03:27 PM

Ah, my mistake. A bad gene, I would say, is one that inconveniences or discomforts the person with it. I realise you could say that they might be inconvenienced by bullying for being different, but the gene for bullying and xenophobia could also be partially removed while still keeping the good properties of it. Similarily, the good properties of the genes related to the bad gene of autism could be maintained without keeping the bad gene, with good enough technology.

Bullet Magnet 10-10-2007 03:46 PM

It's a start, but in severe need of development, as I'm sure you recognise yourself. It's still up for interpretation.

I happen to know autistic people (Asperger's, specifically) who like their condition and consider the trade-offs to be worth the benefits they perceive. What right do we have to call that a product of bad genes? I know many genes that have both good and bad traits. Sickle-cell anaemia in malarial countries, for example.

Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 04:04 PM

Well, these people are entitled to remain handicapped and mentally incomplete if they want, as long as they pay for all their treatment with their own money, don't expect special treatment (after all, they're just different, not disabled), and can follow the same rules as us "neurotypicals" or what ever self castrating, PC crap is being invented to make sucessful and healthy people feel bad for being normal, functioning human beings.

Anyone who would want to suffer from Asperger's for all eternity is an idiot, period. I have had the disorder and quite frankly it is a horrible, crippling disability that should not be sugarcoated as anything other than a life wrecking virus that should die a 1000 deaths in the bowels of Hell. Comparing it to homosexuality and blackness is reprehensible, as being gay doesn't prevent you from functioning as a human being and neither does being black.

And if one single asshole tries to prevent me from treating my autistic/deaf/blind/whatever child, the only special treatment they'll receive is an allowance of "Mind your own business" and "Parent your own kids".

So, autism and Asperger's should be treated in the womb, and the genes associated with the bad disorder not removed. Everybody wins. And the worthless sacks of dung who want to cripple their children to become part of some cult(ure) can go and initiate self fertilization procedures.

OANST 10-10-2007 04:09 PM

Everyone please stop trying to convince PV to have children. I like it better this way.

Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 04:12 PM

I agree with you completely, OANST.

Marvak 10-10-2007 04:55 PM

Hmm. My views about children, with me, are very split.
On one hand, I think most children are absolute scumbags and should all be sent into bootcamps to teach discipline and 'build character'.
On the other hand, those children aren't mine. I can't disciple them, but with my own, I could if needed. And also the soft mushy gooey warm side of me would probably be happiest, looking down at a tiny face in my arms. Or, more likely, two- the family history of genes from my father's side says that I'm going to have twins. O_O

So if in the event that I do end up popping a few sprogs, I've already got some lovely names picked out. Girls- Naomi, Jessica. Boys- Benjamine, or Jay. I would actually prefer to have boys, as I've seen from first-hand experience that girls can become absolute turds when they reach puberty.
*shudders*

mudling 10-10-2007 06:06 PM

Well, at 15, I'm not to sure I'm ready to make that desicion, or care, but probably some day.

Nate 10-10-2007 11:29 PM

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Anyone who would want to suffer from Asperger's for all eternity is an idiot, period. I have had the disorder and quite frankly it is a horrible, crippling disability that should not be sugarcoated as anything other than a life wrecking virus that should die a 1000 deaths in the bowels of Hell.

Do you even know what Aspergers is? I hope you were being ironic in calling it a virus but either way it's really not something you get better from.

As for me, I don't plan on having kids. Partially that's due to biological inability, what with my lack of an XX-chromosomal partner but it's mainly because leading youth groups and camps taught me how goddamn irritating kids are and how bad a father I would be (I'm really not patient enough). I'm planning to be a wonderful uncle but I'll be quite happy to be able to hand the kids back at the end of the day.

Patrick Vykkers 10-10-2007 11:53 PM

I was being ironic, and I know it is a supposedly lifelong mental disorder which reduces the size of social lobes in the brain while increasing others related to skill. It is indeed possible to get better from, but it is a difficult thing to get better from, like cancer, and many have the disorder their entire lives. Like cancer, large amounts of money and effort are being put towards its eradication, and it is genetic.

Please know I was not being 100% serious there. I deliberately hyperbolize nearly everything I say for reasons which even I am at a loss to explain. But still, autism (or any other mental disorder) isn't something one wants to have, and I would consider anyone who tried to make their child autistic in order to become part of some sick "culture" (no pun intended) to be unworthy of eating apoptotic colon cells.

Marvak 10-11-2007 12:07 AM

Offtopic (sort of), but I wonder if anyone's noticed the misspelling in the thread title?

Chubfish 10-11-2007 07:23 AM

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Charles is a good strong masculine name. Everyone should call their children Charles

My name is already Charles! But I prefer to be called Charlie. Also I'm not really sure about children.

Zozo the Zrilufet 10-11-2007 07:49 AM

:(Well I have autism Patrick, and I just wouldn't wanna cure it for some reason...I'd feel like I was taking away some part of me if I did....Wait, why do you say you used to have Aspergers? That makes no sense to me.

On topic......I think I have a 10% chance of passing on autism to a biological child.

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:pYou could adopt a teenager, teenagers are semi children.