Save your CD:s
 

A tip for you all:

If you are afraid of getting your Oddworld CD:s damaged, install the games and then copy the whole content of the cd(s) into the install directory.

All those files fit on a normal cd, and can be run without a cd in the drive.

Good tip, Meechmuncher! Im not worried about my CD though, i have 2 copies of Abes oddysee for Pc, haha. But i have Exodus for playstation, so nothing i can do about that!

Yer But you can always keep a copy at your grandma's!

(in case of house burn down) :)

I have two AO discs, two AE 2 discs, and 1 AE discs. I keep them nice and clean ._. and their all on the playstation.

No worry.I can download the new one.

Which would be illegal, also CD's only last for about 25-30 years, after that nothing will read them anymore.

Not just illegal but disrespectful to Oddworld Inhabitants!

Excuse me, but I'm downloading AO, I know I am a "pirate", but I need it and I can't find it in the web!!!!!! The last AO in eBay (Italian) was that I've bought one year ago. Then I delte my downloaded games, I don't keep them in my PC.

I have no idea why did Max edited my post...And why would that be disrespectful? I actually want to give an advice from..... <---(I won't finish, so Max won't delete)

I have bought all oddworldgames so far, including the old PC-ones which were hard to come by in sweeden, and I just think that It feels safe not to have to use the original cd:s everytime u play them. I know pirating is wrong and that you "steal" money from the gamemakers, but if the games are bought second hand they don't get any more money, and if the games arn't sold anymore then there is no way to buy them from the original gamemakers, so should it not be legalized to download discontiniued software, like old DOS-games and some ATARI-roms? or am I completley wrong?

Anyway this is not a pirating discussion, but a helptopic for saving your data in a playable state.

You are an idiot. Of course I will delete it, because OWF has a responsibility to prevent illegal downloading wherever possible. This includes deleting references to sites which allow you to do this, and our devotion to protecting this interest stretches to officially reprimanding members who violate this rule.

Hence you are being officially reprimanded, which, given your existing two reprimands, means you have a week‐long ban to enjoy. MoxCo. Executive and abe is now!, you also get one each for infracting. You silly three.

You’re talking of abandonware, and while a desire to see people enjoying Oddworld is shared by me, the fandom at large, and even Oddworld Inhabitants, it doesn’t make it any more acceptable. OWI were looking not so long ago to re‐release AO and AE on the PSP. It would not help sales of the game (and hence their profits, and hence the amount of investment investers and publishers are willing to give OWI to make future games, films, merchandise, ete.) if people can download the games freely, or have already done so.

Ya didn't understand me and I didn't explain me well: I downloaded AO just one time and it was an error! I needed absolutely it only to try the english version of the game: I ask to OWI (if they will know it) to forgive me, I am not downloading any game now (I wrote a wrong thing) and I delted the game.
Anyway I have AO and AE for PS1 and I bought them.
I ask to you to forgive me, because I didn't want to offend OWI and other people.
So, sinecerely, excuse me.

OWI does not forgive and does not forget. EVER.

I made a ISO copy to my harddisk
3 Cd copys of AO and 3 for AE too.
More 1 of AO and AE, to keep on my "secret room".

In response to the downloading thing, IMO if you once bought the game it's fine by me to download a copy should you have lost the disc or something. You still paid for it, if you get the game content from a website or a CD is irrelevant beyond that point.
That said, games like AO and AE are hard to get as it is, even by download.

I agree, but in fact, its still breaking the law.

Hmmm......
 

I agree too, but if I lost the CD I don't have the right to download the game.
Let's stop with this, the tittle hasn't nothing about piracy.

Excuse me, but... isn't making a ISO image of AO, AE or of MO illegal?

If you upload IS.
If you own the game isn't.
Isn't safe making a ISO, if you format the hard drive you know what happens.

And if I burn the image? Is it illegal?

As far as I know, making/downloading a backup of a contentholder you already own (CD, DVD, HDD) for personal use is very much legal, no matter where the backup comes from. Remember that downloading itself isn't illegal, uploading is. And if the cops do show up because you downloaded something, if you can show your AO box then they won't have a leg to stand on.

Breaking the copyright.
You can't copy your own cd. Just make a ISO (if you own the game).
Is like, you make a copy of AO and sell it. So don't

Ack, read your EULA's people you CAN NOT copy your own game for a backup if you own the orignal disc or not, you can't upload it (you'd have broken the first point if you did this anyway), you can't resell it, you can't decompile it.
In short, if your disc is broken you have to buy a new one, it seems unfair but thats the way it is.

I agree with you!

It depends on the laws of the country. In some places, backing up a disk that you own legally is allowable under fair use but in others it's illegal but generally not prosecuted.

Software comes with it owns terms in the EULA though, I bet if you translate all the others they say exactly the same thing as the english one ;)

And if I copy the CD with Alcohol 120% (for example) and then I move my hard disk to another PC and then I use the game there?

So... Its legal to copy it and backup a disk, as long as you Do Not Sell it?

Yes. And don't give to someone who doesn't own the game.

Microsoft says: "Do not transfer OEM software to other computer."

"copy" so no, thats illegal

"copy" so no, thats illegal

Paul you need to understand that not everything is automatically a crime just because it's deemed 'illegal'. It's also illegal to jaywalk, are you going to walk a mile to find a crosswalk instead of just crossing the street to get to the store on the other side? No, because it's not logical.

For the same reason you don't buy a new version of your game if you break the original, not if you have the option to make a backup first. Some rules are just silly and this is one of them. No-one will sue you for making a home copy of your game.

If you told certain people about it I’m sure they would since there is physical evidence ;) maybe for jaywalking too if it was on camera.

And yeah I know the rules (or laws actually) are stupid but they're there and so they should be enforced.

For example, I can’t grow a plant because its illegal (don’t matter if you sell it as drugs or whatever) but I can own a shotgun if I have a licence.

Besides that’s only your opinion, I could say, “hey I know doing the speed limit is the law but if I’m late then it’s not logical to do the speed limit despite the fact I could kill myself/someone else”

You can kill someone just as easy going a 100M/h instead of a 140 so I don't see your point. Besides, driving fast is only to be done by those who know how and do it responsibly. I drive over the speed limit all the time, I get my fines for it and I pay them, but I always make sure never to endanger anyone else. If everyone else is doing 80 I will not pass them going 200. If people are working on the road I always keep to the custom speed limit because people are working near the street.

Laws are (imo) very much open to interpretation but only by those who have the ability to apply common sense which already disqualifies more then half of earth's population.

Well if you think its ok to break the laws you dont agree with then ok, but the fact remains that its illegal.. also if you did that in the UK you'd be banned from driving