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looney-bin 08-06-2007 06:25 AM

Smacking kids: Right or wrong?
 
Would any of you give your child/ren a smack when they're being unruly little brats (throwing things, punchng, etc.) I think parents should be allowed to smack their children atleast once when the kid/s' acting up, as it gets the message across that bad behavour is a bad thing.

used:) 08-06-2007 06:30 AM

I'm really not sure. I am strongly against child abuse, but if the kid is being especially shitty, then I don't know. I can assume that I wouldn't, but you never know.

Havoc 08-06-2007 06:54 AM

Absolutely. Just because it's a kid doesn't mean it doesn't get the message when you smack it for doing something wrong.

If a kid is doing something it's not supposed to do, you tell him THREE times not to do it. If the brat still doesn't get it by then, you yank his arm, give him a firm smack on the butt and let him go while telling him again he isn't supposed to do it.

It works a LOT better then continuesly telling a kid he's not supposed to do that. I hate parents that think that works...

Spirrow 08-06-2007 07:00 AM

Smacks on the face with your hands usually tells kids that they better fall in line or something worse might happen. I think it is a perfectly rightful thing for a parent to do, because it tell the kids that you aren't playing and mean that they better stop what they are doing.

Unless it's a really young child, I don't think 'pops' on the butt is always successful. Smacks or slaps on the face leaves the stinging pain that most children don't forget for a while.

Laser 08-06-2007 08:00 AM

Smacking is probally the worst thing to do and can get you reported to the NSPCC if you do it too much

Usually shouting works and also being sent to your room works
Banning from various things also works
threatening to put most beloved toy in the bin also might work

^ they are best used in the home
You can't forget the classic of copying the child if he is acting spoilt
Also the squirting licquid soap if the child swears also works

Not that most of these are best for 5-10

Jordan 08-06-2007 08:04 AM

Don't try and change my opinion on this guys. I think it's right, if the kid is pretty young. (Ages 5-9) But doing it to anyone older is just pointless, they'll just keep doing it again.
My parents are always saying that they got the cane and the slipper when they were younger. It's so freaking annoying.

Hobo 08-06-2007 11:01 AM

Child abuse is good fun for the whole family!

Carnix 08-06-2007 11:33 AM

i dont no wat the hell hobo's been avin but i want some!

i should probably strongly advise myself never to have children, the amount of times i have driven my computers to extinction through physical acts of anger is unbelievable and i'd rather not be a man who has to live with his childs murder hanging over his head

Arxryl 08-06-2007 11:41 AM

Well, child abuse is wrong, but a firm smack on the buttocks isn't going to kill the child... just don't go on a spanking rampage.

But even before that, you should tell the child that whatever he/she is doing is wrong. So that when they get the spanking, they know why they are getting it.

Carnix 08-06-2007 11:51 AM

yer. otherwise they might think your just kinky :D

Mac Sirloin 08-06-2007 01:27 PM

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yer. otherwise they might think your just kinky :D

...No, man, just...no.

I got smacked around a lot when I was younger, but then I got fed up and punched my dad in his hernia repair woud when he got me in a corner, he won't be complaining about his fucking motorcycle any time soon.

Also, if you can see the gap in my picture (left side) you'll see I am missing a chopper.

Patrick Vykkers 08-06-2007 01:41 PM

If I ever had children.. which I won't, I would not use physical discipline, but dramatic shouting and ominous beating of drums.

Mac Sirloin 08-06-2007 03:04 PM

I'd just molest them...











With bogus political ideals, that'll set 'em straight.

Spirrow 08-06-2007 03:08 PM

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...No, man, just...no.

I got smacked around a lot when I was younger, but then I got fed up and punched my dad in his hernia repair woud when he got me in a corner, he won't be complaining about his fucking motorcycle any time soon.

Also, if you can see the gap in my picture (left side) you'll see I am missing a chopper.

Ouch, that's what you get when you f*ck with your parents. Wait a minute, this guy could just be a show-off.

I get slapped and smacked for being a bad boy every year. Not surprising.

Patrick Vykkers 08-06-2007 03:10 PM

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I'd just molest them...











With bogus political ideals, that'll set 'em straight.


You're Kucinich's dad?

Venks 08-06-2007 03:29 PM

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Child abuse is good fun for the whole family!

QFT!

I'll tell you this. When I was younger and my mom spanked me with a ping pong racket or whipped me with.. crap I forgot what those things are called.. well when I was younger I always listened to her.

When I got older she no longer spanked me or my sisters but grounds as. Nobody listens to her.

Mac Sirloin 08-06-2007 03:54 PM

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You're Kucinich's dad?

NO idea who that is, just...completely blank.

Rich 08-06-2007 03:59 PM

Well, my dad has never hit me, I was always sufficiently intimidated by his shouting if I did something bad (I still am to a certain extent, he can be very intimidating when he wants to be).

My mum only ever hit me once and it worked, I stopped whatever I was doing. Though later on, when she was helping me get ready for a bath, she saw the mark of her own hand on my body and cried that she'd hit me and never did it again.

I was never really a naughty child though, if it gets to the stage that you're having to beat the shit out of your kids to make them behave then you've messed up somewhere earlier and you're a crap parent anyway.

Abraham Lure 08-06-2007 04:07 PM

Well, parents don't need to smack, hit, hurt or kick their children in order to discipline them. My Mum had me and my older brother. My brother was a nightmare (Kicked out of 3 playschools) when he was younger. And I am autistic (The autism was very bad when I was younger). But my Mum never smacked us once. All she did was ban something temporarily. Such as my brother not being able to have friends over or something like that. And we were brought up just fine. All without smacking.

I remember when I was about 5 years old, I was at my father's house. I ended up spilling just a small glass of Orange Juice. Do you know what he did? He smacked me and put me to bed. I didn't mean to spill it and I didn't get a chance do anything about it. It's left me a bit nervous to spill something when I am at someone else's house.

Smacking or any other form of physical violence as a punishment could have a negative effect on someone. It could make the child violent towards other people as they might be influenced by the smacking. It can make them hate their parents a lot more. Or it could just make them fear the parent.

Good Parents don't need to smack. My Mum never had to smack us to make us behave.

Patrick Vykkers 08-06-2007 05:09 PM

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NO idea who that is, just...completely blank.

An elflike US Democrat politician with whacky views, such as banning all handguns from civilian possession, reinstating the Fairness Doctrine (one that requires Limbaugh, Savage, Franken and the like to give both views literal equal time), giving large amounts of reparations to Iraq and pulling out, withdrawal from the WTO and NAFTA, repealing the PATRIOT Act, retaining slavery reparations, socialized medicine, diplomacy, and generally everything the Daily Kos loves.

Mac Sirloin 08-06-2007 05:20 PM

Well, I am up to date.

Marvak 08-06-2007 11:45 PM

If I ever have children, which I hope I don't, they would definately get the beat down on them if they even looked like they were going to try anything funny.

I Hate children, with a capital H.

Patrick Vykkers 08-07-2007 12:12 AM

So do I. Change religions and I'll make you Mother Superior,

Nemo 08-07-2007 12:40 AM

I was hit as a child several times.
However it was never because of the same thing.
I never yelled in public, I never cried, whined, or pouted. I was always happy. Pretty much.

Hitting/smacking a kid works. Doing it without reason/way too much is abuse.

You might not be able to beat out stupid, but you can get them to stop acting like it.

moxco 08-07-2007 12:53 AM

I'm not at all against it. Where's the poll?

Carnix 08-07-2007 01:14 AM

your rite. why the hell aint there a poll?

Bullet Magnet 08-07-2007 02:35 AM

Whenever I misbehaved (usually involving unpleasant behaviour towards my younger brother) my parents would do the same back to me so that I knew how it felt. Obviously not hard, being small and fragile, but enough to get the message across. I remember one time my dad sat on my head, and I turned out alrightalrightalrightalrightghtghtght.


Still, it doesn't take much imagination to come up with non-corporal punishments that are equally or more effective than slapping. You can always tell which families are not imaginative enough- they're the ones with the screaming kids 24/7.

Carnix 08-07-2007 02:38 AM

i remember watching a tape of me banning my head against the wall. dunno why. i dont remember the actual thing though..... hmmmmmm. i dont remember much at all... hey look! an oddworld forum! :D

Jordan 08-07-2007 04:50 AM

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Well, parents don't need to smack, hit, hurt or kick their children in order to discipline them. My Mum had me and my older brother. My brother was a nightmare (Kicked out of 3 playschools) when he was younger. And I am autistic (The autism was very bad when I was younger). But my Mum never smacked us once. All she did was ban something temporarily. Such as my brother not being able to have friends over or something like that. And we were brought up just fine. All without smacking.

I remember when I was about 5 years old, I was at my father's house. I ended up spilling just a small glass of Orange Juice. Do you know what he did? He smacked me and put me to bed. I didn't mean to spill it and I didn't get a chance do anything about it. It's left me a bit nervous to spill something when I am at someone else's house.

Smacking or any other form of physical violence as a punishment could have a negative effect on someone. It could make the child violent towards other people as they might be influenced by the smacking. It can make them hate their parents a lot more. Or it could just make them fear the parent.

Good Parents don't need to smack. My Mum never had to smack us to make us behave.

Good speech there. I hate getting punished for accidents, like breaking something or spilling drinks. And my parents make mistakes too, but do I shout at them?

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If I ever have children, which I hope I don't, they would definately get the beat down on them if they even looked like they were going to try anything funny.

I Hate children, with a capital H.

Same here, I can't stand them. It annoys me how the swimming places are always crowded with them in their little speedos and bikinis. Ugh.

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i remember watching a tape of me banning my head against the wall. dunno why. i dont remember the actual thing though..... hmmmmmm. i dont remember much at all... hey look! an oddworld forum! :D

Dude, we didn't need to know that. No offence, but you aren't funny.

Carnix 08-07-2007 04:53 AM

o no. the boices in my head told me when i typed that post.


sorry, ill stop now.

Mutual Friend 08-07-2007 07:39 AM

Good parenting means you don't require to physically strike a child.

I don't really see why it should be allowed just for the masses of whiny-brat-parents to think like they're issuing discipline, thus getting the verification that they're actually doing a Good Job of this caring malarkey.

It's really kind of craven.

toxicity 08-08-2007 12:10 PM

If your kid is being a dick to you and other people, I think your required to give them a smack.

Mutual Friend 08-08-2007 12:33 PM

That actually makes no sense really, like, when you think about it, huh?

Carnix 08-08-2007 12:37 PM

it makes grammatical sence to me... if that's what you meen.

Mutual Friend 08-08-2007 12:40 PM

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it makes grammatical sence to me... if that's what you meen.

No, it isn't.

And it's spelt 'sense'. And that's spelt 'mean'. And use some capitals, you're making the place look scruffy.

Mac Sirloin 08-08-2007 03:19 PM

Scruffy indeed.

Nemo 08-08-2007 06:28 PM

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No, it isn't.

And it's spelt 'sense'. And that's spelt 'mean'. And use some capitals, you're making the place look scruffy.

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Whose scruffy lookin'?

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Havoc 08-09-2007 10:55 AM

Some children are quiet and listen without problems, some are little brats. At that level it has nothing to do with parenting, MF. Some part of kids being brats can be genetical, stuff like ADHD and other stuff like that.

IMO there is absolutely no harm in raising your child with physical threats. What are you going to do when the kid is doing something which he KNOWS he's not supposed to do? Take away his game boy? Wanna know what happens when you do that? He's gonna whine even more. If a child is doing something which isn't allowed, you tell him what he's doing is wrong and if he doesn't listen you spank him. It teaches the child that there are serious consequenses to their actions and that is a quality that will help them later on life. A child who has been raised with verbal punishment (whatever the hell that is) is a lot less likely to follow rules then one that actualy knows the result of what he's doing.

All that, and it simply saves a lot of time and effort.

Mutual Friend 08-09-2007 11:39 AM

If children are brats, it's because their parents are. Yeah, some kids have certain mental-imbalances or whatever, so I fail to see how physical abuse particularly helps them learn or grow as people.

It's like the best teachers you had at school were the one's that never had to raise their voice to control any class, no matter what level of intelligence, and the worst were those who ranted and raved and only get laughed at.

Good parenting = No need for smacking.

Even if we remove ANY kind of justification for or against this issue, you're still left with the basic fact of a grown adult striking a child, which I personally find sort of sickening.

Havoc 08-09-2007 12:21 PM

Well then if your kid is drawing right on the wall, and you tell him to stop and he won't. Are you going to tell him again and again and again hoping he'll stop eventualy?