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skillyaslig 05-26-2007 04:06 AM

GOD
 
Get one thing clear, I am not gonna slag off God or anything like that, Okay? Also, no one else should do that either, we are civilized around here. So, now that we got that outta the way I have a question,
IS GOD A MALE OR FEMALE? (see the poll, duh.)
I'm not really sure what gender God is, a He or She or maybe both?:fuzconf: After all there are many arguments, stupid and reasonable about Gods gender, and I wish to know what these fellows of this Forum think. I actually believe that God is female, as women mean life and birth and whatever. After all, Men cannot have children (give birth) so that doesn’t really make any sense that God ‘made’ them. So what do you people think?

LadySlig 05-26-2007 04:13 AM

I think God might be both, as He/She had sons, (both genders) and women mean life and renewity (?) and men are needed to help make the life as well...Still, it seems creepy that we were all born from a Hermaphrodite. :D

6-finger-fred 05-26-2007 04:18 AM

Well, if you want me to get deep in the theology and stuff, God isn't really anything. He just made the stuff. Though if he had a gender, it'd probably be female, however I'm going with both because of the aforementioned God-hermaphrodite case. He's just God, 'nuff said.

looney-bin 05-26-2007 05:50 AM

Do not make topics like this. They're crap and we already have a topic about religion.

used:) 05-26-2007 05:52 AM

Yes, this topic's stupid.

But for the sake of things, I would think that God would be beyond gender. God has been recognized by a variety of cultures in different forms and genders.

Nate 05-26-2007 05:54 AM

I would go more along the direction of 'neither', which I'm shocked you didn't include. I mean, physical, biological characteristics of sex really don't apply to an omnipresent, unphysical, supernatural creature.

That said, there's a lot of literature in Jewish theology regarding the gender of god, mainly in that the different aspects of His personality are ascribed to the feminine (mercy) or masculine (justice). Different names are often used when discussing the various aspects as well.

Strike Witch 05-26-2007 06:11 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...#37;27lyeh.jpg

I really can't tell, can you?

Havoc 05-26-2007 08:05 AM

A guy. As George Carlin once said; no woman would or could ever f*ck things up like this!

6-finger-fred 05-26-2007 08:23 AM

*Sigh* Havoc, you sadly are 100% true. We are doomed.

Splat 05-26-2007 09:50 AM

The Bible says that God made man (Adam) in his own image.
Woman was made later, using one of Adam's ribs.
So yeah, God's male.

Laser 05-26-2007 10:19 AM

and that i have to say is that i really don't care

Cullen Heath 05-26-2007 10:29 AM

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Well, if you want me to get deep in the theology and stuff, God isn't really anything. He just made the stuff. Though if he had a gender, it'd probably be female, He's just God, 'nuff said.

Oh, my, what a nub.


It depends on what God you are talking about. The genders are different, there are female Gods in Hinduism, for example.
If you are talking about the god in Christianity, Catholicism... I don't think that god has a gender. My opinion.

6-finger-fred 05-26-2007 11:34 AM

If you are talking about the god in Christianity, Catholicism... I don't think that god has a gender. My opinion.


That's what I assume he is talking about. And the reason I used He is because that is what most people view God in judeo-christian religions/regions. I could have refered to God as an It, but that just doesn't seem to work with me. I use He as a general term, even though it makes pretty much no sense. By the way, you do realise you left out an important part of the post, right?

Since most people so far have considered god as either yahweh or the christian God, that is what I go with. I'm also christian, so I consider god as God, if you catch my drift. I will still call him a he, again only because "it" doesn't sound right.

So when we start talking about any Hindi gods, you let me know.

moxco 05-26-2007 12:08 PM

we call God our father.....

skillya_glowi 05-26-2007 01:19 PM

What a topic!

But I tend to think God is male. For the reasons stated above.

Nemo 05-26-2007 01:22 PM

God's a beautiful black woman.

skillya_glowi 05-26-2007 01:23 PM

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God's a beautiful black woman.

I wonder where that came from...

Nemo 05-26-2007 01:27 PM

Don't question it...



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Dracula’s Ex 05-26-2007 02:02 PM

Well I think Gods a She...I dont really know why, I just automaticly refer to God as female...

6-finger-fred 05-26-2007 02:03 PM

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we call God our father.....

Good point. But that would suggest that everything the church has done is completely what God wanted and that the bible is not slightly flawed even though it was written by men. Were the crusades right? No more than Jihads, but it is justified because christians did it, right? Not to say that God isn't a guy, but I imagine more of a force. I think God is who you imagine. A lot of people imagine him as the wise man with a big white beard, but some imagine her as a loving mother. Then again, WTF do I know?

Dracula’s Ex 05-26-2007 02:21 PM

Well, men were considered the 'bomb' back in those days, while women were viewed as house slaves and a waste of space, so no wonder everyone refers to God as Male.

snuzi 05-26-2007 03:02 PM

This topic is pointless.

I don't believe in God, and therefore couldn't care less what gender everyone's God is. But if we're going by the bible, God'd have to be male for two reasons:

1. Because he's referred to as he.
2. Because Chirstians woudn't stand for a woman being in charge of them. It would be much too Pagan.

Patrick Vykkers 05-26-2007 03:10 PM

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Oh, my, what a nub.



If you are talking about the god in Christianity, Catholicism

You do realise Catholicism was the original form of Christianity, right?

I think God is genderless, but reveals itself as male for the sake of convenience. There is also the problem of a woman impregnating a woman (biologically impossible) and the God the Father aspect, and the most accurate depictions I've seen depict God as relatively masculine;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Appendage.jpg
I think, ultimately, God looks like this;
http://www.enlightenment.com/blogs/m...mages/yhvh.jpg

Jordan 05-26-2007 03:15 PM

I voted for: "I don't really care." I don't believe in God and I never will.

6-finger-fred 05-26-2007 03:27 PM

ewww.... Patrick is posting pr0n! ;)

Back on topic...

I can see why a lot people don't care either way, because it doesn't apply to them. Snuzi, I'm christian and I think the idea of a female god would make sense. I think most of the christian law is somewhat untrue. The important thing is what you are doing what is right. I'm not out to "Save" any of you, because it is retarded. If we are supposed to love each other, if we are supposed to be kind, why do we try to make everyone like us?

Kimon 05-26-2007 03:29 PM

God has a weener and a vagina and that is why God has both of a wiener and a vagina.

Nate 05-26-2007 05:30 PM

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The Bible says that God made man (Adam) in his own image.
Woman was made later, using one of Adam's ribs.
So yeah, God's male.

Well, one interpretation of genesis has Adam created as a hermaphrodite, then the female side removed later to create Eve.

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1. Because he's referred to as he.

Hebrew doesn't have genderless pronouns. The male version is used in any ambiguous situation; e.g. a group of 100 females would use the female 'they' pronoun but a group of 99 females and 1 male or a group of 100 people where you don't know the collective gender would use the male.

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I think, ultimately, God looks like this;
http://www.enlightenment.com/blogs/m...mages/yhvh.jpg

That would be the male-aspect-name I was talking about. The female one is the bottom of the following:
http://www.plim.org/2Issue98/1aleim.jpg

SeaRex 05-26-2007 07:21 PM

*yawn*

Why would He need to be either? I mean, yeah, He's always referred to as... you know... He, but what purpose would genitalia serve to an omnipotent entity? Gender-specific pronouns are just... blah blah... mankind trying to describe that which is essentially unable to be completely understood... blah blah blah...

You get it.

Nemo 05-26-2007 09:17 PM

Why should god be a he anymore than a she?

Venks 05-26-2007 09:19 PM

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I think God might be both, as He/She had sons, (both genders) and women mean life and renewity (?) and men are needed to help make the life as well...Still, it seems creepy that we were all born from a Hermaphrodite. :D

I wonder if Vykker children ever ponder about their parents.

Nate 05-28-2007 01:40 AM

I've split off the crusades discussion that was building here to a different thread. It can be found here.

OANST 05-28-2007 08:28 AM

This is pointless. We all know Patrick is a man.

Patrick Vykkers 05-28-2007 01:56 PM

Just OOC, what gives you the idea I have a big ego? I don't think I do.

I like to state I'm Allah, but I don't seriously believe it.

Strike Witch 05-30-2007 12:00 AM

I believe it, Allah.

*prays in PVs' direction*


Okay, so I think the Abrahamic God is a man, because there is a lot of pointless posturing and ego-trips in the OT. Yay.


(Burial Grounds)

Patrick Vykkers 05-30-2007 02:41 AM

As Allah, I give you a command;

THOU SHALT NOT BEG ANYMORE FOR THE ALLAHDAMN BURIAL GROUNDS UNLESS THOU ADD IT TO THY SIG!

Wait, wouldn't this be a demonic command! Better call Battle Pope.

You are correct in saying my deity is canonically male. Thank you.

Strike Witch 05-30-2007 03:26 AM

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As Allah, I give you a command;

THOU SHALT NOT BEG ANYMORE FOR THE ALLAHDAMN BURIAL GROUNDS UNLESS THOU ADD IT TO THY SIG!

Wait, wouldn't this be a demonic command! Better call Battle Pope.

You are correct in saying my deity is canonically male. Thank you.

Then use yer Godly powers to giveth it to me, Allah.


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Bullet Magnet 06-06-2007 03:53 AM

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The Bible says that God made man (Adam) in his own image.
Woman was made later, using one of Adam's ribs.
So yeah, God's male.

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Well, one interpretation of genesis has Adam created as a hermaphrodite, then the female side removed later to create Eve.

I always thought that the "own image" bit was creating a lucid, sapient being like Himself. I wouldn't have thought that an omnipresent, non-physical being doesn't have an "image" per se.

But we now know that that is an attribute granted to many other organisms in the animal Kingdom, to varying degrees.

Nate 06-06-2007 04:57 PM

Oh, yes. I agree completely. I was just mentioning an interesting opinion there.

I would have said 'Devil's advocate but that would have been far too ironic.

Nemo 06-06-2007 11:13 PM

Edit:
In the bible, god refers to itself as "us," indicating that it is, infact, several gods.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

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Bah, then it goes to "I."
Screw it, I'm going back to agnosticism.

Nate 06-07-2007 06:35 AM

From memory, at that stage he'd just created the Angels (I'm not sure if that's in the text or if it's commentary) and he's supposedly talking to them.