Zoophilia - PLEASE DON'T JOIN JUST TO POST IN HERE, WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK
 

In the shadow of the 'Should homosexuals be allowed to adopt' thead, I bring you another huge discussion which will shake the foundations of this forum. The topic being... Zoophilia AKA Bestiality AKA... f*cking sheep :p.

Given that the last serious discussion about this subject is now over 3 years ago, I found it needed to recreate because we are lacking good threads here lately.

Okay rules of the fight (yes fight, experience taught me discussions on subjects like this tend to get bloody): Discussions with an open mind, no insulting, keep it civilized and most important of all we are NOT turning this into ANOTHER religious debate as tempting as it might be, we all know the bibles stand on this by now.

So, your opinions on the matter, have you ever thought about it, fantasized about it, actually did it or killed someone for doing it (:p)?

Tiger

Hmm... Well, the thought has crossed my mind, multiple times, but ultimately I figured that I'd stay to my own species.

No, I haven't killed someone for doing this to an animal, but I'm sure they do it all the time in "the south".
I don't think I'll ever commit this act any time in the future though. Don't want to be arrested.

Okay. Time for me to come out of the closet, speaking figuratively.
Since we're on the subject.

You know, this is a big step for me, telling you this, but I guess it'll be easier for me, so try and bear with me...

Alright. I am a zoophile. It means that I have a sexual attraction to animals, or a specific type of animal, in my case, cats, big and small, except the ones that resemble a mop. I'm really sorry if that grosses any of you out, and I know it will, but the thing is, people often confuse zoophilia with bestiality. I may be a zoophile, but I'm not a bestial. I may have an attraction to cats, but I don't do anything with them. Ever.

I'm sorry. I know this is hard to accept...but hey, I'm still the same person...I still like men :p

I guess that while I'm a little homophobic (now you have two things to kill me for), I have nothing against people having an attraction to animals, and even though it's every bit as unnatural, I guess I'm just weird like that...

Now you have the right to bash me as you please. Go...

*pretends to hit Skillya over the head with a bat, then laughs and hands them a bottle of root beer.*

This thread is called Zoophile. It's okay to admit things. Funny though how we haven't had someone who is completely against this topic.

And yes, there is a large difference between bestiality and Zoophile.

Maybe it's just because you're the only one that replied to this thread so far...
Still, I'm relieved that at least one person is okay with it...I imagined a screaming mob or something...

That may be it, but really. A topic that has the phrase "phile" in it and no one is against it yet. Something very awkward indeed. Even for 9:30 at night with only about 5 people online.


Maybe that's a good thing. Or a completely horrible thing.

I agree with Arxryl:
Maybe that's a good thing. Or a completely horrible thing.


Each to his own.
I have no problem with this - I think.

Everybody got his odditys.
It's in the eye of the beholder. In my eyes it's disgusting.
But... ehm...

Aww, this is an awkward topic.

well...being a person who takes alot of my life lessons from the Bible...Luckily there is a rule that quite literally says..."Don't have sexual relations with animals"

Even without that rule...it's pretty frikin disqusting

Why should we bash you for something you like? It's part of what makes you who you are. There's certainly nothing wrong with it. Anyone who actually bashes you for this is an immature child who cannot accept the reality of other people's thoughts and views.

I don't really know what to think when it comes to this topic. I suppose that as long as no harm comes to anyone or anything, then it's fine. To each his (or her) own, I say.

Previously I was against bestiality, but thanks to Havoc I saw that my viewpoint was quite ignorant. I would never engage in the act (as I don't find animals sexual attractive (but my god, doesn't this just stiffen the penis)), but hey, do it responsibley and I wont condone it.

I don't really find it disgusting as such.

Next topic to hurdle over... necrophilia.

Necrophilia is not the current topic and something I "can't" understand.
And I'm glad about this.

You know, someone could logically argue for zoophilia (or whatever) and make a bunch of valid points, I'm sure, but at some point you just instinctively know when something is just plain wrong. You know. Like committing murder.

And it's funny, because it has got nothing to do with religion. No matter what society or culture you're from, the vast majority of people are going to be instantly repulsed by the mere mention of the subject. It's the same kind of innate "gut" reaction that a person is going to get when considering a senseless killing. Wrong. Don't do that.

Not that zoophilia (or whatever) and murder are the same thing. Just an example.

I mean, whatever gets you going, but I just thank that there is a reason that most humans... you know... aren't attracted to animals. Guess my opinion is impartial, but it's kind of hard to effectively comment on this whole thing... considering I've never felt any sort of sexual attraction to an animal.

But there are people who commit senseless murders and have no gut reaction against it. Some actually enjoy it. The same goes for people who enjoy zoophilia or bestiality. They don't have the same reactions towards it as we do. In their minds it may even seem normal. It all depends on how their mind works.

Also, the murderer comparison can work two ways. Certain murderers are vigilantes, and rid the world of other murderers or people who have created unjustifiable crimes against others. They take out the trash. They're actually doing a good thing for society, if you think about it. So, in that light, murder isn't all bad. Same goes for zoophilia. Perhaps a person who enjoys such things feels a strong connection towards animals, and is looking to become closer to them? I don't know. Basically what I'm saying is, you can't just label it as wrong without getting a person who is into that sort of thing's opinion into considering. They have their own viewpoints on the matter, which may even be valid viewpoints. We shouldn't judge them just because we don't fully understand.

Just like gays and bis, a large majority of the bestial community I consider to have convinced themselves to be that way. The internet is to blame. Gay is the new black, and 11-14 year olds see these things as lifestyle choices. Don't take this the wrong way, because it's true.

@Searex: There is that. It's the natural way to react, but these days we're all drug-****ed hippy liberals from birth, so everything is acceptable in some way.

Sexuality is an insane thing.

Being part of the furry fandom myself (( oh boy >>; )) I get accused of being a zoophile quite alot. while i have no mutual attraction to normal animal of any kind. yet it seems people just link the two together. if you want my opinion. if they aren't doing it infront of you and its legal Who cares?. And it's not always sexual and perverted some of these people do it out of love for there animals.

I am very repulsed by this but if i never ever see it in anyway shape or form i will not be sick

I don't think you can get more wrong then commiting an act of love upon an Animal.

*Stays the hell away from this thread.*
Just kidding, I always have something to say :p

Skillya_Glowi, I'm not going to bash you - it's not fair to bash someone for the way they are. Having an attraction to animals is fine to me - yes it does sound strange, and yes the thought of intercourse with an animal makes me, personally, wretch - but I wouldn't hold it against anyone. I'm sure if I thought about it I've thought stranger things.

Bestiality, however, could be called wrong, as it can be cruelty to animals. I can see what the people mean when they say this. Imagine being molested by a Gorilla... or rather, don't :p

On this topic, have you ever 'imagined' doing the act itself? No, I won't hold this against you either, because having a sexual attraction to something generally means this will happen at some point :p

*wave the Furry Flag*

I'm a Furry, I'm not a Zoophile. I don't really have....anything there, so I don't care.....

*Yawns* Topic done. Lets do plushiphiles next! :p

Yay! I am not alone anymore. And cats too, you just made my day :happy: . Ver courageous of you to just step out like that, I commend you for that.

Hm... in a way, yes. However the gap between the two isn't as big as you might think because look at it this way: People who have intercourse with any animal chose to do so because they fancy the idea or have an above average interest for the animal (this excluding the psychopaths and adult movie industry). One could say that because they have intercourse with an animal, that they are attracted to that particular animal as it doesn't really make sense to do something like this if your not in a way attracted by it. So, Bestiality is a form of zoophilia, as a certain level of love and attraction has to be involved for someone to have sex with an animal. Zoophilia however is not always a form of bestiality, like Skilya pointed out. Attracted to but will never commit act with.

I can personally understand that point and I won't go around telling everyone that zoophilia is a natural thing that everyone should be doing. I don't believe nature ever meant for cross species intercourse, then again I also don't believe that nature meant for flowers to be blossoming in f*cking January... :|
Zoophilia might not be a natural thing, man is not SUPPOSED to be having sex with any other species but their own but still it happens. And there is nothing moraly wrong with that as long as both parties agree on the act, meaning both human and animal.

I wouldn't see how any normal person with no attraction to animals whatsoever one day 'convinces' him/herself to go have sex with a horse or something? Thats simply not the way it works. Of course you always have the ugly guys that just can't get anyone and still haven't got laid by the time they are 30 and then decide to grab a dog instead, but thats not the kind of people we're discussing here.
Zoophilia, or even Bestiality to a degree, is just like being gay, not a choice, but a sexual orientation. Mostly an additional sexual orientation (I for example am straight with a high interest in girls but tigers do it for me just the same) but I also know people for who it is a primary orientation (people who arn't in the slightest attracted to their fellow species).

That is an entirely new discussion altogether and one where I would disagree with you, where the basic point would be: You have to have SOME attraction to animals otherwise you wouldn't be a furry (assuming you are actually in the adult community rather then the clean one :p).

Of course it can be, respect for the animal is a very big matter. And no-one would ever defend people who don't have that respect. Especially not people from the zoophile community itself.

Yay for quote boxes :D

What's next, a topic about pedofilia?

Yeah but there's still a big leap between thinking about anthromorphic creatures in a sexual way and having sexual acts with a real animal.

And about the majority of the "adult" furries. everything on the internet has its shames and adult side. just try and prove me wrong :P. but anyway thats offtopic.

By Gwar. QFT.

This might appear to be spam, but it's actually a witty cutting edge remark on my feelings about Zoophilia. Think about it.

I wonder what the opinion would be on sexual relations with other human species?

Though, in the interest of PC, we'd be all considered one species even if we weren't.

So long as sex is consensual and harmless, I can say nothing against it.

You'd be surprised how stupid people are. Then again you probably wouldn't. If you don't believe that the yunguns see being gay/bi as a choice, go and look for a Placebo forum. There typically should be enough 'OMGMOG I THINK IM BI LIEK DA SINGER' threads to tide you over. People are getting sexually aware at a younger age which generally means theres a larger extent of ignorance involved. Also a search for nonconformity.

All this being said I was once sexually assailed by a wasp.

I also take a lot from the bible, but this isn't really going out and necessarily making out with an animal. Just...well, animals going and making out. Or so that's what I think it is. I don't know exactly, you'd have to search the meaning up on wiki or an online dictionary.

And I suddenly feel a lot better about my attraction to older women. Who said OWF was good for nothing?
"This one time, with Peter Pan peanut butter..."

What other people do with their animals is not my business. I don't really mind knowing that people do it. I am sure that in the animal kingdom other animals do have sexual experiences with other species (although rarely I am sure.). And thats what we are... Just smart animals.

I am sure I have thought about it, but I wouldn't ever do it. That to ME is kind of strange.

I know eactly what you mean. Kids these days, for some reason, feel that chosing to be gay or bi, will assist them in gaining popularity or friends, or will be a means of rebelling against their parents and establishing themselves as "individuals". They view it as a choice, whether than a work of nature. It just really angers me, since they try to fit into every stereotype that has to do with their chosen sexuality, thereby insulting actualy homosexuals who have been gay, bi, or lesbian from the start.

Perhaps certain people can do the same thing when it comes to zoophilia, and make themselves like it in order to fit into that group. I really wouldn't be surprised.

All this stuff about choosing to be gay/bi to increase popularity makes sense, I've seen it myself. But choosing to fuck animals won't win these kids a lot of friends.

I have to agree with the notion that some things are just instinctively wrong. I'm genuinely sorry for anyone who finds animals sexually attractive.

Well, what if they want to fit in with that community in order to find some sort of acceptance? I don't know why a person would go that far to be accepted, but there are some pretty desperate people out there, and with a low enough self-esteem, they'd probably do just about anything.

And it's called Innerspecies Erotica. Or just Innerspecies Intercourse.

speelign mistrak
 

^Thank you for that completey relevant piece of information.

Indeed it wont, but they can brag how different and edgy they are. Not so much accpetance as it is nonconformity.

I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic. But Okie Dorie.

I once saw a movie of this guy trying to take a wiz, and this donkey tried to rape him... Very Scary.

Yeah, I suppose that would work as well. If a kid is really desperate to prove that they are their own person, they'd probably do it. I mean, it most likely wouldn't be their first choice, but some people go pretty damn far just to rebel.

I thought it was kinda obvious.

Well, judging by what I read a few months ago online, basically bestality is to force sex (in other word to rape) upon an animal without any emotion to it but to satify one's sexual desire-as well as doing it against the animals will.

And zoophilia is for a relationship between a human and animal to be so strong that they may or may not resort to sexual intercourse with
each other. But it as seems as if the relationship would have to be
more than just an average person loving his or her's pet.

Well, then I'm still fine with zoophilia. Though, as I've said before, if the animal involved is harmed in any way, then I view it as being wrong.

Bestiality doesn't seem right to me, since it's forcing the animal to do something it wouldn't normally do, so I guess I'm against that.

Like a few people before me, I am in fact more attracted to furries than humans.

It's just an uncouncious thing, it's not like I looked between the two and the cheetah woman got me more excited than the real thing because I convinced myself, but rather that it more naturally did that stuff.

I think that everyone at least thinks of the animals once in their life, so that's ok. But to actually commit the act is unforgiviable.

Yes, I know I'm basically posting the same viewpoint as most of the people who have already posted. Sue me, I'm trying to get my attention in this forum back up before I commit another 'I'm leaving and not coming back' crime.

Okay: Concrete definition time.

Zoophilia = sexual attraction to animals.
Bestiality = having sex with animals.

Therefore, the assumption would be that most bestialists are zoophiles but not necessarily the other way round. I say 'most' as there are plenty of horny farmboys (1/3 according to one statistic I read) out there that merely want to get off - which has no relationship with what they are actually attracted to.