Embarassing
 

In the U.S. O' A the infant mortality rate is the second worst in the industrialized world. The only nation "beating" us for this ignoble distinction? Latvia. Lat-Mothereffing-Via. The U.S. spends more money than any other nation on earth on healthcare and Latvia, LATVIA PEOPLE!!!!, almost ties America! Seriously, WTF? Does anybody know why the U.S. might suck so bad on this? The reason I'm so perplexed is that every year I hear people whining about how a million "babies" are killed by abortions each year in America. Well, 2 million die every year because the health care profession is comparatively speaking, stone age.

I think the general shitty health factor of America is due to the fact that we care to much about our health. We take all sorts of diets and tips from doctors who are doing nothing but trying to make money and apply as little fact to their propositions as they can, so as not to scare people away. Truth is, healthy living is different for everybody. There's no fail-proof plan thingy.

As for babies dying, I don't know what to say, really. Do you know what causes the majority of these babies to perish? I sure don't. It could be because of certain conditions only apparent in America, or it could be something else. In all honesty, I don't really know.

It depends on your meaning of "infant mortalities". Do you mean Abortions, along with still-biths, SIDS and random accidents killing young babies? (after they're born?), or just one of those (or soemthing else?).

High infant mortality rate wouldn't surprise me for the USA.

Think about it. It has one of the most privatised health services I know of. If you haven't got money, you can't get an ambulance/bed/blood test.

Of course, if abortions are included in the figures then it's not giving true information. The other things mentioned {Still-born, SIDS, general death} should give a better figure for compairing. I believe the cut-off for "Infant" in stats like these is around 2 years old.

Yeah, no abortions, under 2. But still, its friggin' inexcusable. At This Modern World somebody compared Japan, which I think has the second lowest in the world, to us. They were ravaged by wars. They had 2 nukes dropped on them not much more than 60 years ago. But the fact remains that their infant death rate is less than a quarter of ours.

It just shows that the health system isn't the best in the world {Which is something I doubt the USA has ever claimed}.

George Bush is working on a new health system. Hopefully those awful democrats will let him put it through. He always has some really great ideas.

Shall I be the first to call troll?

I'm sure you'll find that 90% of those death are from the lowest socio-economic grouping, the people who can't afford health care. Contrast to the nations at the top of the list who have government-provided healthcare.

But that said, I'm sure that number 2 million can't be true. That'd be like 1 in 20 babies born.

Gawdamnit, AprilD, I though you were OANST for one extreme moment of homobliss.

On this subject, I love the word stillborn. It makes me think of a limp foetus, usually a naked molerat one.

Stillborn.

Lots of people are getting the same avatars. Like Glukinator and Marco the Glukkon. I always confuse the two...

Anyway, I think that the high mortality rate is due to people having children when they're WAY too young. Like 13 or 14.

No, that happens a lot in Ireland too.

Actualy, just some interesting stats. health-wise:

-In Ireland there are 3 private health companies.
-75% of people use these companies. The majority use them to avoid waiting lists.
-For the other 25%, the public health service is there. Charges are related to your annual income, aparently.

What happens a lot in Ireland?

Pre-marrital under-age unprotected sex, resulting in babies.

Hmm, must be the abortion into that. Its 9 per 1000 born for blacks, 6 for the rest. Which is still disgraceful, still 38th out of the 39 industrialized nations.
Edit: It most certainly isn't teenage pregnancy. That has been trending downward since the Clinton administation.

Yow. I thought at least Ireland was more proper than the US.

You are aware the majority of Irish people would have "Catholic" as their religious upbringing?

Well... that and there was the "crisp-packet condom"... issue, which... well, lets just say teens would rather buy drink/ecstacy than a rubber jonny.

Doesn't the Catholic religion reprove that kind of behavior?

reprove? It's against it, if that's what you mean.

Of course, Ireland doesn't have as many "REPENT OR DIE!!!"-style, insanely vicious and zealous catholics. Most normal people would be catholic.

Yeah, that's what I mean. If the religion's against it, how does it happen?

Well, let me put it this way:

Christianity's doctrine is against violence, pride, greed, non-monogomy, anger/wrath, disrespecting God and your parents, and a bunch of other stuff that happens anyway.

Religion is not some big scary thing anymore... at least not in Ireland or the US.


On an embarising note: Ireland has one of the worse fire safty records... I'm guessing in the EU, probably in the developed world.

Ironic that the colour of fire is orange.

I once shat myself on the train.


I'm sorry, what's this thread about again?

lets change it. Adder I want to ask you something.

My background is Irish, but unlike most aussies I look like a wog. Apparently it's got to do with a lot of Spanish influence over there after sir francis drake and the settled over there for a while too.

I'm just curious, do you have a lot of people in Ireland that look a bit Spanish but have really thick Irish accents? Or is it just a one off thing.

Bloody 'ell. This really takes the biscuit, Bob's your Uncle, toad in the hole. What's a Wog? This is one sticky wicket you'll have to explain to us Tommies, with your crazy Aussie dialects confusing the other royal subjects! Pip pip, tally ho, rule Britannia!

Slig_Cake... I have no idea what you mean by Wog... or wtf your post is about.

I live in Dublin, which means my accent is surprisingly neutral... although I do pick up american inflections from watching too much TV.

As for people in Ireland "looking a bit spanish"... um... the spanish tourists/imagrints do?

"after sir francis drake and the settled over there for a while too."... what?!
I can't understand that sentance... and I've no idea who Francis Drake was or where he settled.
And Bullet Magnet, there's a lot of people in the US who would expect you to actualy speak like that.

...then again, there's a lot of people in the US who think lepreachans exist.

I am a descendant of Sir Francis Drake. True story.

[QUOTE=Adder]Slig_Cake... I have no idea what you mean by Wog... or wtf your post is about.

I live in Dublin, which means my accent is surprisingly neutral... although I do pick up american inflections from watching too much TV.

As for people in Ireland "looking a bit spanish"... um... the spanish tourists/imagrints do?
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hahahha sorry dude I've been up for two nights straight with no sleep. What I meant to say was when Spain and England had a big war 500 years ago. Spain settled some soldiers over to use Ireland as a kind of platform to launch an attack, or something like that I'm not too sure. As for Francis Drake he was in charge of the British Navy that sunk the Spanish armada on the English coast. Apparently some of the survivors floated over to Ireland. This is what a few people I know that have an Irish background but look a bit wog have told me.

As for 'wog', it's a broad term used for Europeans like Italians, Spanish, Greeks etc. Although for some reason lebanese are also called wogs because they act just like them.

But according to your reply I see that it's all just bullshit to make me and these guys feel better. Our great grandmothers were probaly just either raped or liked to play the field with wog guys.

There's positive sides to it though, like the fact I can change my nationality to root a Turkish, Italian, Greek etc. It's only fair. Wog guys can root any aussie they want, but as soon as we touch one of their nationality we've got to fight off 50 of their cousins that want to cut our cocks off. It's a mini war against these ****s I've got going on and also some of the wog girls are just ****n awesome babes. Trust me, these chicks may look innocent or fridgety, but they're all starved for cock...

As for Mutual_Friend....I don't believe you :fuzmad:

Well I'll be chuggered.

Just reinforcing the old stereotyppe, guys. It was begining to wane a bit.
Mutual Friend is probably right actually. The further you go down the family tree, the more people are descended from someone of historical significance. Of course, it can't be proved, or indeed disproved.

Now excuse me while I go wax my moustache, polish my top hat and cry about our lost colonies...

"The further you go down the family tree, the more people are descended from someone of historical significance. Of course, it can't be proved, or indeed disproved."

That's why science {and common} kick in to make people "STFU, n00b" about it.

Technicaly, I'm related to every single human on the globe. That means, in some ridiculously removed and indirect way, I'm decended from almost everyone.

Direct ancestry is relativly easy to prove. Historical documents exist for a good few hundred years. As for being impossible to disprove... if the records and living knowledge don't match up with a claim, then just like a scientific theory, the claim will be seen to be false and ignored.

"I'll take 'The Art of Necroing' for 800, Alex"
Dududhddzwip...
Daily Double!
I'm related to the former ambassador of Mexico, Joe Morrow, and the person who married Lindbergh, Anne Morrow.

And don't claim that your line is pure, either. For that to be so, tracing your family tree back sixty generations, to the time of the Romans, the number of people you are descended from will more than the number of human beings ever to have lived. None of us would be here without quite a lot of incest.

Thankyou, and have a nice day :D