They should have meeches that are still alive.

It is widely suspected that they will be rediscovered in the future.

However, I personally hope that they are never seen, except in a flashback or a game set during an earlier age. If they were no longer extinct it would destroy the emotional effect and demonisation of the Glukkons that originally occurred in the AO opening FMV.

don't dubble post Glukinator
Meeches shuldn't be seen after AO in the timeline, that's my opinion

What were Meeches anyway, i know what they were Rupture Farms meat but did you ever get see them in a movie?

I don't think there is a movie of them, but TOGG has a picture (Can't get the image to show up so here's a link):
http://www.oddworldlibrary.net/togg/...=CAAO0137.jpg5

Yeah, poor little buggers. They were awesome looking.

It would be cool to posses a meech.

They should have Meeches in the game.
 

Even though Meeches are extinct, thay should have some that still exist.

What?:lol: :lol: :lol:

If something is extinct it CANNOT be active! The Meeches don't exist anymore.


And quit making retarded threads.

Dude....What is with the |) |_| /\/\ B |= |_| C |< threads?

Seriously. STOP making threads. I tried to be nice in the first like... 3. Now you're starting to grind my gears. Save your stupid-ass comments.
There's a reason this thread exists - http://oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=13279

Now fucking use it!

No they shouldn't.

Meeches look dangerous, and they also have 3 mouths, or is it 2?

I think they have a mouth surrounded by several toothen appendages, like the things in Deep Rising.
http://www.inhousemedia.net/mf/thinggg.bmp

Right. I just looks kinda wierd.

According to Lorne, Meeches have four jaws. I suspect they open like a flower rather than stacked mouths.

Steven (Or Farzad?) done a great job with the design, gives even a bigger impression that they were once realy cool creatures.

Meh they kinda look like scrabs to me. Are meeches possibly the pre evolution of scrabs?

They always struck me as kind of a 'missing link' between Paramites and Scrabs. The Meech does have a lot of Paramite/Scrab qualities.

I don't think they should be in any of the games...
I think it is good to be realistic about that sort of thing... There are some things that aren't coming back

Havent you guys pay attention to Nate_dog_woof. I totally agree with him. It will good to see them in FMV in some kind of flashback form. This gives some great idea how they move and sound.

I agree. But I don't understand why you quoted me in your response.

The might have gone extinct in the direct proximity of Rupture Farms. What about other continents?

I remember reading somewhere somone said 'meeches are ment to be extinct , but oddworld is a big place, and anything could happen'
or maybe i was daydreaming, one of them
I think meeches are better off extinct to show how evil and money driven rupture farms was

I love Meeches (they are probably one of my favourite Oddworld creatures) but they should remain extinct like the said above to show the evil of captilisation but also so the mystery of them remains. That's what makes them seem so interesting.

Meeches are real cool looking and just awesome, which is why they should stay extinct-The affects of the Industrials need to be shown and remain. Meeches should only ever appear in a flashback, or if a pre-Qunitology game is ever made (And even then they should only appear a little). I'd partly like them back, but they should remain extinct. And Glukinator, don't double post, use the EDIT button!

Oh, I was adding a little extra to your quote on the emotional effect, I was going to write the same thing, but instead I just added my point with yours.

They should stay extinct, but I've always thought a game set pre-AO would be cool with meeches in them. I would love to see a Meecharnian temple and discover their characteristics, environment and game speak.

I agree that they look like the missing link between scrabs and paramites, which would probaly explain their extinction as there might not have been many of them compared to scrabs and paramites.

There's a tribe that worships the Meech known as Mudoncho. Whether they have a temple is still unknown, but it's very likely.

^^They're believed to exist, not definitely exist. Alf has denied them existing remember. I'd also heard that the possible name of that tribe was Mudmeechee.

I am tired of explaining evolution to people. This is in response to the "missing link" you are talking about.

Sometimes during meiosis (cell division that creates gametes- the sperm and egg) mistakes occur. Maybe just during DNA transcription, perhaps due to radiation, a mutagen or some other factor. When they happen in body cells, they usually die or turn cancerous, but in the gametes they can be passed on the the next generation. These are mutations.

If the mutation happens in the active DNA (genes which actually do something) it usually only occurs in one gene. They create a new allele (a version of a gene). Genes are codes for proteins and enzymes that make other substances, thus creating living cells. The mutation will change the shape of the protein it makes, either changing it's function, making it inert, or just something benign like colour.

The mutation is either advantageous, disadvantageous, or neutral. Usually it is disadvantageous and the organism dies. Neutral mutations have no effect in it's current environment. But if the gene gives it an edge over the other individuals in the population, it is more likely to survive and pass on its genes to the next generation. Eventually the gene will be present in most of the population. It is still the same species, but it has evolved.

A succession of mutations like this, or a change in environment so that other, older genes become useful and more prevalent, will change the species even further. Eventually it will no longer be able to breed with the original species (If any even remain, in an isolated area). Either because its genetics are too different, its ecological niche differs too much, or maybe their courtship displays are no longer recognised by one another. A new species has been created.

The upshot of all this is that "missing links" are a bit of a misnomer. I can only assume that they refer to the common ancestor that two modern species are descended from, but they would have died out, since as the new species gradually emerged they would outcompete the old one, or the old one would have changed gradually into the new ones in the way described. I can only assume that buy "missing link" they mean a third modern species descended from the common ancestor that has changed very little over the millions of years. Of course, now there are two missing links, and all the in between states which probably were not recorded in the fossil record.

So it is unlikely that meeches are the missing link between scrabs and paramites, but they share a common ancestor, as do all living things on a planet if you go back far enough.

Scrabs and paramites are very different. Scrabs, Scrabanicus tyranni, are Scrabanidae, and paramites, Paramitus paramitus, are Phalangipodae. I do not know enough about meeches, Tretramandibi mudosus, to classify them into a family, but they seem very different.

Paramites and Scrabs were designed so that they had the same torso, for combining into Shrykull, even the veins on their necks are the smae. Meeches were not designed that way.

A side note: it is very easy to wipe out a species without meaning to, but Odd damn hard to wipe out a species intentionally. They may be hidden meech colonies out there, like it is suspected of Tasmanian Tigers. We just have to wait and see.

Phew! That was a long post!

In my theory, Meeches are not related to Paramites, but to Fleeches. And not because of the "eeches". Mainly because the Fleeches and Meeches both have two set of jaws and similar teeth in the art. And prehaps the Fleeches, before they were altered by Vykkers, there were more similarities. They seem so much like Meeches are more related to Scrabs and Fleeches, than they are of Paramites.

Back on topic, Meeches helped explain how far glukkons had gone to get their moolah, like someone said before. And OWI could only put so much in AO, so they would have to add maybe 2 more years inro their count of making the game with Meeches. So, no, Meeches shouldn't be in AO, but maybe in a future game.

But OWI never intended to have the meeches in AO. They were designed from the start to be extinct.

Which is why they should remain that way.

From my understanding, Vykkers created Fleeches as "the perfect Glukkon pet" but it backfired. Thus Gluks flush them into Necrum and such places. So I thought Fleeches were created creatures, not a natural species.

Alf says they're natural, and Earth-scientifically speaking, the Vykkers couldn't have just created a species out of nothing.

The fleeches we met were genetically modified. I'm not sure if they added the tongue or chose fleeches for it, but the idea was to use them to clean those 'hard to reach" places. Yeah, that worked.

Meeches should stay dead. The best thing about AO was its "pure evil" theme. Their skeletons might be found some day however... or they might be living on another planet and must be rescued

Here a thought why did lorne make the food as they where.

Meech munches is a meat product right? Seeing that it is a meat product.
Scrab cakes. I would consider that is a sweet thing. More of a biscuit. Cause there no enough meat. Harder to catch a scrab maybe so less accessible to a scrab.

Finally Paramite pies. Yet again a savory product.

Back to the point is that where the meeches like the DoDo? They have no fear of Glukkons cause they havent seen them as a threat.

But they could be like that fishy - I forgot its name, ended in "canth" - they were thought to be extinct for a million years, then they catch one. But I don't think there should be a game about that, there already was the "saving a species" theme in MO.

Coelacanth.

Fish Cakes- savoury. Scrab cakes-savoury.

Perhaps they should be in a flashback or prequel. Or we might see a close relative of the meech in the future.