Oddworld Species Classification
 

Has any oddworld species classification been developed?

What are you talking about? A chart?

Ooh, good thread! I love this sorta thing. Mah cuppo tea.

Unfortunately I only know a little greek and latin from what I learned by decyphering dinosaur names. But this is good, keep this topic open.

Yup, I mean something like a chart.

Perhaps we could classify them in this very thread if no classification has been done before. The most obvious grouping is between Slegs and Slogs, although other species other share characteristics. Slogs and Elums, for example, both have two three-toed legs with a nail on the heel, but then again that is the ONLY characteristic they share :P.
Besides Slogs and Slegs, there are other also easily associable species, like oktigi and glukkons, scrabs and meeches and chippunks and stunks. IMO Mudokons and Grubbs also do share some characteristics, though not nearly as many as the other ones cited.

Dipstikk: Since you know a little greek/latin, do you think we could make a classification with greek or latin names for stuff?

There should've been a chart or biological tree on Oddworld.com. Ah, well.

While Mudokons and Grubbs do have an annoying number of physical similarities, the former evolved from birds and the latter from fish. I don't believe they're related.

When the first design of an Octigi (not on a host) was seen, its mouth tentacles prompted many to suggest that Sligs and Glukkons are related species.

One interesting note is the number of Oddworld species that have nostrils above their eyes. Gabbits , Glukkons, Mudokons, Clakkers and some Outlaws all seems to have this bird-like feature.

The only thing I would say about compiling a chart over making individual connections between species is that OWI are meticulous in how ALIVE they make Oddworld. I'm positive they have rudamentary evolutionary trees mapped out - but it could still be fun.

With scientific names, it's easy to look up Latin translations of words, but sadly there just isn't a Latin word for Octigi, nor any indication that species classification on Oddworld is treated in the same way.

Interesting... Perhaps Mudokons being descended from birds has something to do with their ability to transform them into a portal by chanting?

I also do believe the Vykkers are close to the Glukkons and Oktigi, but not nearly as much as they are between themselves.

Chippunks, Stunks, Fuzzles and Boombats do somewhat look alike too, although the Chippunks and Stunks are particularly similar.

Chippunks and Stunks definitely have a thing going, but Fuzzles, Rats and Bats are probably no more related than their equivalent Earth creatures are.

Interns and Vykkers have been hinted at as being similar species, a possible interpretation of a concept sketch in the art book, but I don't think that's exactly what it meant.

When we first saw Clakkers, there were strong suspicions that they were an evolutionary offshot of Mudokons, as it seems both evolved from birds.

Yeah, Interns were supposed to be "Undeveloped Vykkers".

As for Clakkerz, I don't think that they have anything in common with Mudokons, but I could be wrong.

Interns do indeed share some similarities with Vykkers, but you sure the Vykkers evolved from them?

The Mudokons, if they evolved from birds, have lost many of the original traits, although the Clakkers look just like some humanoid yellow chicken. Maybe the Mudokons lost their feathers when evolving, just like humans lost part of their body hair? In any case, it seems both have evolved from different creatures. Perhaps the Clakkers have evolved from a chicken-like creature, while Mudokons evolved from something else that isn't as clear as the Clakkers, as it appears the Clakkers are nearer their unevolved ancestors than the Mudokons are to theirs.

Ooh evolution topic. I like it :p. New guy starts well.

Anyway I think I heard somewhere that paramites and scrabs are in a same type of group. Sounds complete rubbish to me but is it true?

(Did I just say rubbish?)

The only characteristic they seem to share is that both have four legs(although completely different legs) that end in a nail. Perhaps they're the only ones whose legs end in a nail in Oddworld.

No, there are way more creatures like that on Oddworld.

.....Hm care to name some Cullen? I can't think of any...

Are there? Maybe the Kinto Carrier things, but other than that...?

Damn you:).
I was searching because I knew that there was a lot more, and when I came back to the Forums, there was a big fat post made by Kimon that stole some of my post.:)
No matter, I found some more creatures, but I'm going to go search some more and see what else I can find:

-Kinto Slaves
-Gloktigis
-Bolamites (I'm not sure with this one, it's hard to tell)




EDIT: Okay, I found some more, exept they have them on their hands (Paws, front legs, whatever you want to say) so they might not count:

-Elum
-Meeches
-Vykkers

About the Gloktigis, are you sure their arms are natural and not implanted through some kind of Vykkerish surgery? As for the Kinto slaves, what are they?
Bolamites are hard to figure indeed, but for me it seems they do indeed have a nail at the end of their legs.

Nope, the Gloktigi's Nail is natural. Take a look. (On the left)

And this is a Kinto Slave. (On the right)

This could potentially become very interesting. Maybe someone should post one picture of every oddworld creature known, and we could compare them by look?

Because thats about all we could do.

Wow, those Kinto slaves are... odd. Btw, are they in Munch's Oddyssey? In any case, they're a very strange species, I couldn't figure what each part of their body was... and also, what is their role in society? (some brutal slave-work, I presume?)

Kinto's are mountain dwellers, well were and became imprisoned by the gluckons to do thier heavy lifting, from their bone structure i would say they are closely related to frogs just because of the face structure from what i can determine is thier face i was never really able to figure out how they even saw anything, there is a better description of them in the Art of Oddworld Inhabitants book, ummm if you guys would like i could compile a chart of all the oddworld species and then an evoltuionary chart with picture showing the evolution. I have alot of spare time so I wouldn't mind doing this but if someone who knows more about oddworld like say Xavier or Max the Mug would like to step in that is fine with me, just tyring to contribute to the community you guys have established, I barely ever post I'm a forum "Lurker". lol


P.S. PM me if you want me to this otherwise just ignore it lol

In the early days of AO production they were both called arachnids. I forget the complete titles but I think they were Arachnid Senior and Junior (for Scrab and Paramite respectively) so it was implied that they were related somehow.

Kinto Slaves carry around Maggie, and that's is bassicly all they're good for.
Kintos were supposed to be in Munch's Oddysee, but it didn't work out.

that's an excellent point, but perhaps it was only to have a name to call them during the preproduction time...

anyway guys, don't forget I made a list to help you with this kind of stuff:
http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/toa/.../creatures.htm

And what do you guys think about bats (AO) and boombats (SW) ?

Alf's Assistant says they're the same species, except Boombats have a more explosive diet. I can't think of any concrete evidence to suggest otherwise, except that Bats in AO seem to have long wings and a head separate from their body, whereas Boombats clearly are the reverse. The other side of the argument is that AO was the first glimpse into the Oddworld Universe and so Bats, while the same species as Boombats, weren't rendered accurately.

While we're playing the similarity game, I'll mention there's a strong similarity between Grubbz and Scuba Toads.
They have the same mouths, same eyes, same shaped face/nose area, as well as similar skin colour.
Of course, the scuba toads are much fatter, have less neck, and slightly different limbs. As well as those weird things jutting out of their heads.

Though, for all we know, Scuba Toads are no longer considered actual Oddworld creatures.

They aren't? Why?

OWI are known for never throwing away ideas. Scuba Toads probably exist in the Oddworld mythos, unseen as of yet, as The Art of Oddworld Inhabitants describes it. I think a backstory for them is hinted at, too, slightly cementing their presence onto Oddworld.

Yeah, and maybe we may see em in an upcoming oddworld show possibly, since the movie is probly gonna be about the first species of oddworld. Also i was wondering if maybe the bees in AO are related to the stingbees in SW. Just that the stingbees are like bees on steroids, but maybe they evolved into em?

what about fleeches and slurgs? could they be related in some way?

I don't think that they are.


I have a question. You know how there are the evolved/super type of the Live Ammo that you get, the ones that you get as soon as it's figured out that you are a Steef? Example:
StingBees---Super StingBees
BoomBats---BoomBat Seekers
ThudSlugs---RiotSlugs

Okay, are the second ones an evolved form of the species or what?
I've always been curious on how they cange/are different.

I think they're artificially enhanced, like Big Bro Sligs.

So Chippunks have a little PA system attached, Boombats have dynamite shoved down the fundament, etc.

They're more similar between themselves than to any other species in oddworld, but I don't think they are much similar... To me it seems Slurgs are snail-like creatures, while Fleeches are worm-like creatures.

fleeches are created by the vykkers...
the intresting part is that the concept art for fleeches clearly looks like a fuzzle

so could it be that fleeches are nothing else then genetically manipulated fuzzles?

Or at least that the creatures that were manipulated into today's Fleeches were closely related to Fuzzles.

Re the Live Ammo upgrades, each different species is different. Cosmetic differences such as dynamite and PA systems aside, that is. Howlerpunks are Chippunks that have Turret syndrome. Rabid Fuzzles are abandoned ADD experiments. Bada Boombats are caring for young (so-called) drones. I think Bolamite Blasts are genetically enhanced, at least their webbing is.

I went and saw the concept art at TOGG... Wow, they were almost like Fuzzles without eyes and with big tongues.

EDIT: This is the concept art: http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/togg...E/CAAE0096.jpg

(Sorry, I don't know to link)

Oops, it seems it links automatically. Great :)

Man, what a difference.

It's thought that the eventual design for both the fuzzle and the raisin came from those early fleech sketches.

The question is if the upgrades that actually CHANGE the creature (instead of just equipping it with something) are actually genetic enhancements, or just chemical ones(by giving them certain drugs, etc.)...

Earth's Tourette syndrome (presumably what Turret syndrome is based on) is a naturally-occuring genetic disorder. Given the Vykkers' scientific knowledge, the ADD experiments could be genetic or chemical or a combination of both. Bolamites are genetically enhanced, as I say. I don't know why. Maybe industrials boil Bolamites alive to extract the webbing, as humans do to silk worms, and the stronger webbing will benefit industry.