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Havoc 01-13-2006 02:56 PM

Lucid Dreaming
 
Lucid Dreaming, also known as remembering your dreams and more importantly: Controling your dreams.
Ever had a dream which you could have sworn was so real, that you had to think it over 5 times when you woke up to check if it realy happend or not? If you have, then you probably had a Lucid Dream.

Lucid Dreaming is a phenomenon I've become interested in a small while ago. I've always been a dreamer (during school, during work :p ), I enjoy it when I'm able to remember my dreams and I can spend hours in bed just fantasizing and day-dreaming.
I've also had plenty of realistic dreams, you know the ones where it actualy hurts if you cut yourself? Those are the very best, especialy if you're doing something in that dream which you couldn't possibly do in the awake world. Flying for instance.
Anyway, those kind of dreams are extremely fun to have, but pitty is that you can't realy control them. Not without training yourself anyway.
This website: http://www.dreamviews.com , offers an entire guide on how you can train yourself to remember and control your dreams. I've read over most of it, and I'm certainly going to try it out a few times because it would be pretty awsome to actualy be able to do that.
I find this a realy interesting subject, anyone else sharing that interest with me? Ever planning on trying out some stuff on that site?

T-nex 01-13-2006 03:10 PM

I also love to dream... My dreams always come up with an interesting story... But i have been able to control my dreams from time to time... It's possible to do that when you realize that you are really dreaming... I've done that 2 times now and it's really cool, but i had to concentrate alot to do the stuff i wanted... i also think it's cool cos in almost every dream, i am able to fly, and it feels so wonderful... lol

Leeum 01-13-2006 03:17 PM

I suffer from Sleep Apnoea so I don't get all that much sleep to dream.

I have had the the déjÃ* vu thing a few times - Something will happen and I remember something similar in a dream which sort of clicks. That's providing the dreams aren't something like falling out of a tree and hitting the ground :p

Al the Glukkon 01-13-2006 04:16 PM

Heh, I remember the first I heard of Lucid dreaming was on here. No, I've never had a Lucid dream, in fact I can hardly recall the dreams that I have.

metroixer 01-13-2006 04:35 PM

Mt big bro already told me about it. And the night that day I was in a war and crap. JEsus Christ and I knew I wa sdreaming cause someone cut my throat and after a few moments of acting dramatic and rwalizing I can still breathe....Well I found out. Strangly enough I coulden't control it. I ran up to a guy to cut him up and....Well let's just say it did no go as planned. But ya I also remember this other dream I had. In a water park and I was going on a ride. The problem? IT was like a whole 5 stpry high half pipe with sharp turns and small sides. I fell of quickly and I was like OH ****! Then I fell down and litterally scraped my chinn. Guess what? I wake up and my chin is sore. Coincidence? I think not. I could go on rambling about my strange dreams but i'll stop now. Ya know thanks for reminding me about this Havoc. I'm gonna try again tonight. :)

Havoc 01-13-2006 05:04 PM

Hehe, you're chin hurt? Yea I had the same happen to me a day or two ago.
Me being that big cat freak that I am, shouldn't surprise anyone here that I frequintly have dreams about them.
Anyway, I was having this lucid dream about ruffing around with a lion. I was standing in his cage, and he was all calm and stuff. So eventualy I started playing around with him. Climbing on his back, roughing up his mane, and all this felt so real, I could swear I felt his mane in my hands.
Anyhoo, during all this playing and messing, he swept a paw past my cheek. I could feel it in the dream. It hurt, as in getting bitchslapped by a 250 pound lion hurt. Next morning I wake up, my cheek is actualy sore for a few moments.
Yea those are the freaky times... makes you sit still and wonder for a few moments.

Leto 01-13-2006 05:42 PM

I've been a lucid dreamer since about, erm, 6, or somewhere around there. I can remember this vivid feeling that seemingly opened every dream of that era of my life: I would jump off of the top of one of them boards at a swimming pool, the top one. When I jumped off, I would get this very harsh feeling of air going past me, with the force of a train.

I don't know why I just remembered that.

used:) 01-13-2006 06:43 PM

The best dream that I can remeber was quite interesting. And quite strange.

I was in the gorgeos house and I was battling a poltergeist of sorts with a man who I didn't know. We vanquished the demon and before I knew it I was along a cliff near a city town place and a man was standing.

He said soemthing about a metamorphis of a water dragon thing who we had raised. So we had to help him by showing him a good nesting spot at the bottom of the ocean. The man said he would get me there, tghen he stuffed a giant sandwich down my throat and then I was at the bottom of the ocean.

We started looking aorund and I saw other people with their dragons in the distance searching for nesting spots. Then, an enormous octopus came rushing at the dragon. The man stood in the way and he was carried away by its beak. Then I lookd around and I heard this sad guitar music from Cirque du Soleil: Alegria.

We were back where he shoved the sandwoch down my throat. Now we were looking for a spot again. I could see where other dragons had already nested by these scuffs on the occean floor's algey. We found a spot and we said our goodbyes, then the little dragon through his body ibnto the ground like a dart and a small clud of dirt blurred my vision. I saw his nest mark.

Then, we went up this weird elevator thing with other people in it, then I realised thast I was like 5 years old. I ws tlaking to this other little girl about how they were finding a nest for their dragon. I felt sad, but then I feklt happy knowing I would see the dragon as a fully grown dragon sometime in the future.

Prett gay, huh?

Silversnow 01-14-2006 02:51 AM

I can only remember two dreams that has been so realistic I could feel what was going on.
The first one was pretty fun. For some reason I could fly, but only a few inches above the ground and only if I threw myself off a high building or something of the like. I could remember being so horribly scared every time I was about to jump, then the joy when I realized it was going to work this time too. Yet I could never do it when someone asked me to. I can still think back at that dream and actually remember how it felt to fly. Freaking wonderful. :)
In the other one I was for some reason a male police officer who was investigating something in a whorehouse. I fell in love with a male prostitute there. Stuff happened. Ahem... :blush:
Still, it was so realistic I keep wondering if it hasn't actually happened to me at some point. I believe in reincarnation.

metroixer 01-14-2006 04:48 AM

FISSION MAILED

I wasn't able to do it. Metroixer no have dreams last night. :(

Havoc 01-14-2006 05:02 AM

I was hoping on having a Lucid Dream tonight to... but I didn't :(.
Metrio, sure you dreamed, you just don't remember it :P.

metroixer 01-14-2006 05:19 AM

Are you sure? I was trying to remember when I woke up (Like the site said) as hard as I can. And alll I could see is black fog. :confused:

Havoc 01-14-2006 05:25 AM

Yea. Everyone dreams, every single night. But your mind by default erases everything from your memory once you near waking up. When you do remember a dream, it means that you either woke up before your mind wanted you to, or you woke up right in the middle of a dream.

metroixer 01-14-2006 11:59 AM

Well that suxorz much. This is gonna be harder than expected :dodgy:.

T-nex 01-14-2006 12:11 PM

You know how you can remember your dream?? By waken up in the middle of it. Otherwise you wont remember a thing. I might be wrong tho :o

Havoc 01-14-2006 12:35 PM

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Well that suxorz much. This is gonna be harder than expected :dodgy:.

Try reading everything on that website. To be able to control your dreams, you must first be able to remember them. Otherwise it won't realy be of much use. A good way to force yourself awake is by using an alarmclock which goes of right as you are in the middle of your dream. Or by drinking a few glasses of water before going to bed...

There's a lot more envolved though, for example you need to know the stages of sleep and so forth. So I realy recommend you using that site. It will teach you everything you need to know. All you realy need is time and patience to get it.

a flock of seagulls 01-14-2006 12:54 PM

I've had a couple lucid dreams.
The most recent one made me realise something important.
But I'm not gonna share it with you.

metroixer 01-14-2006 01:24 PM

Yea I have my dream journal and everything ready. Hmm....I never read that part about the alarm clock! Hmm.....Does 4:00 AM sound like a reasonable hour?

Leto 01-14-2006 01:38 PM

If you want a lucid dream, you will never get one. They just happen.

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Lucid dreaming is unnatural, involves "dark arts," or is occult related

Haha! Har I says! Whoever says that is a Satanist.

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There's a lot more envolved though, for example you need to know the stages of sleep and so forth. So I realy recommend you using that site. It will teach you everything you need to know. All you realy need is time and patience to get it.
Doch.

Me and my father are seemingly the only lucid dreamers of the family, and never have we researched these 'Stages Of Sleep'. Utter crap, all it is is information to clog up your brain.

The only thing that I have found to induce lucid dreaming is to look at you hands during dreamstate. Or, go the Waking Life way, and turn on and off a light switch. Lucid dreaming just doesn't happen like that.

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I've had a couple lucid dreams.
The most recent one made me realise something important.
But I'm not gonna share it with you.
Thank you so very much for brightening up this already superful thread, my, I should have sex with you right now.

Hey AFOS. Shut up and leave already.

Nath 01-14-2006 01:39 PM

One of the best lucid dreams I can ever remember having was when I was walking through a field with a Faun (you know like mr. tumnus off narnia), but this was about six years ago, before i'd ever really heard or ever seen one (on tv or books. i never read narnia when i was younger). She... yes she... was telling me something really important as we were walking through this field, but I have no idea what she was saying. I'm gutted I can't remember.

On another note. They say you can't read in dreams, right? I'm so positive that I have read in some of my dreams and it made perfect sense to me.

For two weeks straight last month, I would remember a dream every time I woke up in the morning.

Scrab Watcher 01-14-2006 02:03 PM

You supposedly can't read in dreams? I read the opening lines of a book (a green leatherbound book, incidently) in a dream I had, and still remember them. They were original too, I havn't read a book before or since with those lines in it anywhere.

And Silversnow...-_-'
'When I was younger, I always had dreams about being a super-star with a big house and beautiful horses. Did that ever happen to you?'
'Well actually...'
Couldn't resist :p

used:) 01-14-2006 02:08 PM

What about sleep walking? Anyone sprout out of bed and gostrolling around like a zombie?

I once got out of bed and started reciting the story of PInnocio in my my kmothers bed room. Har har.

metroixer 01-14-2006 02:20 PM

Not sleepwalking but I do talk (Or even yell) in my sleep. One time my parents thought I was possesed by a demon or something :p.

Havoc 01-14-2006 02:22 PM

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Doch.

Me and my father are seemingly the only lucid dreamers of the family, and never have we researched these 'Stages Of Sleep'. Utter crap, all it is is information to clog up your brain.

Hm, dun think so. I couldn't tell you if that guide they have actualy works, but I'l give it a try. Apparently it does, if you have to believe all the people on their forums.
Some are born with being able to Lucid dream, others have to learn. Simple as that. And maybe stages of sleep don't directly connect to it, but it's usefull to know when to wake up :).

Dark Elite_H2 01-14-2006 03:09 PM

Ugh...
Not only I rarely have these dreams (like last night, I dreamt I got a 360 fer 70 $ AND Halo 3, but then I could only realize that it would really be in my dreams...:rolleyes: )
but I also have those psychic...deja vu dreams as well.
Like I have a deja vu...couple weeks, months, or years later, it actually happens.
But it's one of those simple deja vus, like you dream that someone does something stupid...Yeah...those ones...

used:) 01-14-2006 03:41 PM

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Not sleepwalking but I do talk (Or even yell) in my sleep. One time my parents thought I was possesed by a demon or something :p.

The sma thing has been happening to my recently. Whilst sleeping opevr the holidays, I dreamt a rat drove its teeth right in my hand, and I really felt pain, horrible pain. I was screaming oin my dream, but when I went downstairs for my moring cup, my dad told me he heard a scream last night.

Then recently, I dreamt that my little brother was driving a truck, and I was in it. He was driving really fast, I told him to slow down, but we kept speeding up, then we crashed into a BP.

Abeguy 01-14-2006 03:52 PM

I've had a lucid dream kinda, I can know its a dream and therefore can stop pain, but, total control, no

Godlesswanderer 01-15-2006 12:10 AM

I actually had a lucid dream last night. And it was great :D. It all felt like it was actually happening and I could control everything that happened. Cool beans :D.

It was one of those dreams that are soooo different to your life but in the dream there's no reason it shouldn't be real.

Dino 01-15-2006 10:28 AM

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Hm, dun think so. I couldn't tell you if that guide they have actualy works, but I'l give it a try. Apparently it does, if you have to believe all the people on their forums.
Some are born with being able to Lucid dream, others have to learn. Simple as that. And maybe stages of sleep don't directly connect to it, but it's usefull to know when to wake up :).

From what I've learned, people who can lucid dream have their brains hardwired to be able to do that. It's something that happens between the dreaming and waking state, in a stage where normally you'd be coming out of a dream and into the normal waking state, but instead you're still dreaming, "dreaming awake" so to speak, where you can wake up but still be inside your dream. The waking process is a natural event that follows a procedure of predictable events, in a series of stages, which seem to involve the "waking up" of sections of the brain that control various functions.

Sounds very much to me like something that cannot be learned.

metroixer 01-15-2006 03:15 PM

Yay my internet is finnaly working!

Okay I am tottaly making progress now. I set my alarm clock to 6:00 to see how it would be. When I woke up I could see that I was dreaming about playing Donkey Kong Country and I was creating a chain on killing kremilings(crocodiles). It was foggy but I wrote it down on my dream journal :).

mitsur 01-15-2006 03:36 PM

I once had a lucid dream I was an acrobat, it was really weird.

o_O

oddveteran93 01-15-2006 03:40 PM

I had a lucid dream once that i was at the dentist. I actually woke up with horrible searing pain in my tooth. But it was lasted for a couple of seconds.

CheeseOfGlory 01-15-2006 10:23 PM

Ah, I've had a few lucid dreams in my life, but they are pretty damn rare and its difficult to stay asleep during the whole experience. Usually I realize I'm in a dream, decide to do something crazy like jump out a window, and suddenly wake up a few seconds later.

But if you REALLY want to see and feel crazy things, just get a few tabs of LSD or an 8th of shrooms.