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Dark Oddworld 07-18-2005 02:18 PM

After We Die And What Our Final Moments Feel Like
 
What do you think dying will feel like? What do you think will happen to you after death? How do you think your going to die? And anything else you think about death.

I think we stop existing after we die which really scares me. I'm the type that follows logic and logic says the reacton in are brains that makes us aware stops thus we stop existing. I only can hope here is something after death...

I don't even want to know what my final moments are going to feel like. I hope I die not knowing that I'm dying. I also don't want to stop existing neather so that makes the thought of my final moments even more frightning.

If you want to know what I think about death just read my sig...

used:) 07-18-2005 02:57 PM

I always like to think of death as sort of going into a nice eternal rest. It too scares me too think that we will suffer the feeling of unbirth, all of our essence just dissipating away. I also like to think that we are reincarnated in a new life like 500 years after we die. If there is a Hell then I am definately going there, but as long I have done the things I longed to do then I can live in happiness with the decisions I made.

big bro boogie 07-18-2005 03:29 PM

Hmm...
Following logics I would say that After Death, we wouldn't feel like in rest. We wouldn't feel anything at all. The brain stops functioning so your body's harmony would be disturbed. Your body stops all functions one by one (or more), so your defense would be zero. Which means: you would start to rot away.

Dying would actually be like Time being sucked into a singularity. Time would stop at that point. Nothing more. Same as your life (Thoughts, feelings etc.).
It scares me that that would actually happen. Shit. It would. Godamnit.

But hoping and putting my trust into hinduism, I hope that I'll be reincarnated into what ever. I don't care.
Or, following logics, I hope that I die with a stop. Just:"..." That was my ending.

I wish that I at least would have the ability to think. Just that. To be something. As long as I can think, it's all fine.

Leto 07-18-2005 03:29 PM

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Hell
Black Adder summarised hell perfectly. I will try to remember it...:
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Hell is for the people who like other things, such as paligamy, wealth and torture.

I believe we just die. Theres nothing to it. If there was an afterlife, such as the fabled Heaven or Hell, then logically every sentient physical being would surely go to one of those dimensions upon death. Such as fat squirells. 'God/Gods' would have to justify each one of those beings going into whatever dimension.

And to believe in any afterlfie you would have to be spiritual, or believe in a God which governs that realm.

Somehow I think magic herbs kicking in...:D

Esus 07-18-2005 03:51 PM

I'm a reincarnation man myself.
I believe I had a previous life, and will have a future one.

Naturally, I won't be the same, because personalities are mainly governed by genes and upbringing/environment, but the consciousness that is myself will be.

used:) 07-18-2005 04:27 PM

Sometimes I think my dreams are small whispers of my previous life. It said in a book called Ancient Evenings that if you kill yourself while you have an orgasm with a female, you're memories and personality (otherwise known as soul) will go into the baby and you will become your child.

Dino 07-18-2005 04:52 PM

As far as crap topics go, this one wins teh cookie medal. Well done.

used:) 07-18-2005 04:53 PM

Merci! :) :) :)

Dark Oddworld 07-18-2005 05:08 PM

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As far as crap topics go, this one wins teh cookie medal. Well done.

Why is this topic crap?

Godlesswanderer 07-18-2005 05:23 PM

Argh, not one of these threads. I've had enough talks about death over the past few days to last me a lifetime.

If we go by the stop existing version of death (as that's how I see it), I always think of that as just a black void. But then again, if I'm dead and I have stopped existing, there will be no black void for me to experience because I will not exist.
This really confuses me. How will I know I'm dead if I don't exist? If you think about yourself not existing, it's one of those things that, even if thought about a lot, your mind cannot grasp the concept. Not even while stoned.

Dino 07-18-2005 05:25 PM

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Why is this topic crap?

You've managed to meet just about every single criteria for a crap thread.

1: depressing.

2: boring.

3: overdone.

MojoMan220 07-18-2005 05:55 PM

This thread doesn't suck. Depressing: Yes. Bad: No.

What scares me almost as much as not existing, is living forever. If a place like heaven is real, you would never die. For Billions, upon Billions, upon Billions of years you would live. Then you could also argue that time is an invention of man, therefore you merely remain in one moment. There is also the question of what heaven would be like. What if it was just a bunch of clouds and disembodied angels, that would suck. If there really is some kind of afterlife, it would likely be something uncomprehendable by man, so guessing is just that. That being said, I'd rather there be something rather then nothing. I usually try not to think about it because it makes me sick.

used:) 07-18-2005 06:14 PM

Yeah, in Dante's The Divine Comedy, he depicts heaven as cloudy bright place flooded with angels with an opium sense. He depicts Hell a lot worse though but some of the people in Hell are sort of living in eternal happiness. I would prefer Limbo though, thats where all the great philosophers and heros before Christ are.

Facsimile 07-19-2005 02:15 AM

I believe in the nothingness.

I fear death, and I fear it greatly.

Mostly because I have an uncanny feeling I aren't going to live that long, as in maybe a couple more years if I'm lucky. And then if this true then I won't have gotten to do all the things I want to which is the really depressing/scary fact.

Leto 07-19-2005 02:20 AM

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I believe in the nothingness.

I fear death, and I fear it greatly.

Mostly because I have an uncanny feeling I aren't going to live that long, as in maybe a couple more years if I'm lucky. And then if this true then I won't have gotten to do all the things I want to which is the really depressing/scary fact.
I completely agree. Once you die, you die. There's nothing to it. No afterlife to reward you with.

Though sometimes, I'd like to think of death as constant sleeping, constantly dreaming... Stuck in your own personal dimension. Lucky I'm a lucid dreamer. But, alas, I dont think thats true, what with your entire phsyical being disentegrating over time.

Heh. Fabled 'spirits' could just be dreamers of centuries ago...

Jacob 07-19-2005 03:46 AM

'As far as crap topics go, this one wins teh cookie medal. Well done.'

I'm pretty sure if somebody said this in one of your topics you'd be shouting at them to get a warning for spam. Which is exactly what your contribution was.

Grow up, if you don't like a thread don't visit it. You've done this before in past threads just to start flame wars (and ridiculously, because of you, they were closed), if anybody was deserving of a warning now, it's you.

On topic - I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest that either we just stop existing or we carry on existing someplace else. So, i'm quite indifferent to the whole thang. Though i'd like to think there was some form of afterlife.

used:) 07-19-2005 04:47 AM

Well, even thpugh it's most logical to think that we just rt in the ground, there are many things that can't be answered yet. Like the big bang. So it is probable to think that maybe life itself could evolve into something else in the space time continuam. Like the life force a baby needs to be born.

Silversnow 07-19-2005 05:14 AM

I believe in reincarnation, so death doesn't scare me too much. I think that when you die, you won't be aware of any time that might pass between the death and birth, so despite the fact that you won't remember it, it will be as if you never stop living. Death is just like a skipped heartbeat. I try not to think too much about the depressing theories about death.

Dino 07-19-2005 07:13 AM

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'As far as crap topics go, this one wins teh cookie medal. Well done.'

I'm pretty sure if somebody said this in one of your topics you'd be shouting at them to get a warning for spam. Which is exactly what your contribution was.

Grow up, if you don't like a thread don't visit it. You've done this before in past threads just to start flame wars (and ridiculously, because of you, they were closed), if anybody was deserving of a warning now, it's you.

Yes, I would indeed, but my topics are amazingly genius, and rock your planet.

Anyways generally I do avoid crappy topics but given the recent decline in decent threads there needs to be extra pressure on people to do better than this. Asking people what they read when they shit, whether or not they wank, what they think dying will feel like... it's all stupid and I feel that I am the one responsible as I most probably started it all back when I asked if anyone else feels that society is wrong about children making love to one another, and people have been trying to copy the whole "talk about something controversial" thingy ever since. Only difference between that thread and the others is that mine was actually interesting and involved serious debate... this one can simply be dismissed by saying "nobody knows what death will be like, therefore it is pointless discussing it".

Ajiellyn 07-19-2005 09:22 AM

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I believe in the nothingness.

I fear death, and I fear it greatly.

Mostly because I have an uncanny feeling I aren't going to live that long, as in maybe a couple more years if I'm lucky. And then if this true then I won't have gotten to do all the things I want to which is the really depressing/scary fact.

Absolute ditto. Goes against draconic reincarnation beliefs, but I'm pessimistic like that.

Jacob 07-19-2005 09:24 AM

'in decent threads there needs to be extra pressure on people to do better than this.'

Why? Decent threads will come and go. I usually check the forum to see if there are any decent threads and if there isn't i won't post in any and i'll flitter off to another website.

The main problem is, is that all the Liberals act like c*nts when a decent topic does come up. The London thread is a good example of this, with insults being hurled at PA for no reason other than the people doing the hurling wanted extra kudos on the forums.

Every single member with a differing opinion to the majority has left, because nobody seems to understand the concept of "Live and let live". I remember when some of the forumers were really outspoken, Pinky, PA, Surfacing etc, they brought up some really interesting points. Now, if anybody attempts to challenge the majority's views they're either branded as an illiterate Bible basher or a Racist.

It's pathetic and the lot of you are reaping what you sow.

paramiteabe 07-19-2005 09:51 AM

Well as a Christian death is the most mysterious thing. Nobody knows what its like because nobody lives to tell what he or she expierenced for obveous reasons. But as a Christian scripture states that heaven is like a field where a person goes and plants many seeds that would grow and bare fruit. The field is like earth and we are the seeds. But a thief would come and grow weeds among us. The weeds mean the trials and tribulations of life. If we are a plant that bares fruit thats a sense of being in heaven. Ultamately there will be a harvest where the weeds will be picked and be thrown into the furnace.

This is not my theory but it is based on scripture.

Hobo 07-19-2005 09:54 AM

Yet you still want to nuke people and send them to this lovely after-life of yours?

used:) 07-19-2005 10:18 AM

What if the person stole for good reasons. Like to feed their family or buy medicine for a sick friend?

MojoMan220 07-19-2005 06:29 PM

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The main problem is, is that all the Liberals act like c*nts when a decent topic does come up. The London thread is a good example of this, with insults being hurled at PA for no reason other than the people doing the hurling wanted extra kudos on the forums.

Don't even act like that's an issue that happens often. When there's a political issue (dealing with terrorism in that particular thread), there will be always be heated debates. I'll admit, there were a few people who resorted to name calling, but there were also those who brought up good points.

Facsimile 07-20-2005 01:44 AM

I don't get reincarnation. If you are born again as someone else, it's not even you, so how is it a second life?
If reincarnation is real, it certainly isn't you who comes back.

Jacob 07-20-2005 02:45 AM

'If you are born again as someone else, it's not even you, so how is it a second life?
If reincarnation is real, it certainly isn't you who comes back.'


It's your Soul that comes back.

I've never understood what'll happen when the Sun eviserates the Earth. Because then there'd be no life for us to be born back into...

'When there's a political issue (dealing with terrorism in that particular thread), there will be always be heated debates.'

Heated debates are always fine, just not when it dissolves into petty kudos-earning point scoring.

Godlesswanderer 07-20-2005 07:08 AM

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'If you are born again as someone else, it's not even you, so how is it a second life?
If reincarnation is real, it certainly isn't you who comes back.'


It's your Soul that comes back.

I've never understood what'll happen when the Sun eviserates the Earth. Because then there'd be no life for us to be born back into...

I don't believe in reincarnation but I'm guessing that assuming there's life on other planets maybe we'll be born into them.

used:) 07-20-2005 10:01 AM

Yeah, like in River World. Personally, I hope that my mind and personality will become one with the earth and my life force will go to babies who need it to be born.

Mudo 07-20-2005 10:05 AM

Listening to this,death is just another part of life and we wont know how it fells until were actually dieing.So there it is.

paramiteabe 07-20-2005 07:34 PM

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Yet you still want to nuke people and send them to this lovely after-life of yours?

Hobo when I stated in the London thread that I wanted to nuke people I was refering to the terrorist. I wasn't refering to innocient people which I now see you guys misunderstood in a very huge way. I was trying to say that allow the innocient to escape and then nuke the people responsible for the murder.

And besides that was a rational based upon my anger towards the Muslim world.

Of course nukeing people is wrong and I know that and I was being sarcastic.

But I still believe in wipeing out the Muslim extremist of the world. I don't believe in being rational to terrorist and if it was up to me I would not give them a single chance. It is justified because of their actions for us to defend ourselves against them. I am sorry there is absolutely no excuse for that.

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What if the person stole for good reasons. Like to feed their family or buy medicine for a sick friend?
If a person stole for good reason because a loved one or friend was sick then that would be justified in the eyes of God. As long as it is strictly for that reason. America's founding fathers acted in such a way against the British during the American Revalution. When the people of the first thirteen American colonies were being treated poorly by the British Empire it was justified in the eyes of God for the people of the colonies to act agressively against such injustice. In a way you dident get what I said. What I stated was based off of a parable meaning that the message has a deeper meaning than what is read first hand. We are like the plants and when we die we go to heaven meaning we bare fruit. This means we are transformed into a new body that God has planned for us. Those who are overtaken by the weeds of life tend to not bare fruit and thus are discarded by God like a big harvest.

But this horrible fate by not bareing fruit doesn't actually mean your eternal doom is going to happen. It just means your lost and God has given us a second chance to be found through his only son Jesus Christ to save us from this doom. You just have to ask for forgiveness and all of your sins would be wiped clean and forgotten like they never happened. But you must be strong and faithful and truely mean it in your heart that you have sinned. A Christian lives life with a certainty of salvation so long as he or she is faithful in Jesus Christ. A Christian may sin but he or she as long as they have Christ with them in their heart are forgiven and still promised eternal life. Christians who don't practice this don't understand what it means to be a true Christian. They are not forgiven and generally give us a bad name.

But Scripture also warns us in revelation that it speaks of a time where this second chance at life will no longer exist and you will eather be for the beast or against the beast and will be judged accordingly. And all that is evil will be cast into the lake of fire and hell will be destroyed once in for all. Forgotten and erased from existance.

Thats what us Jesus freaks believe in!

MojoMan220 07-20-2005 07:57 PM

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I was trying to say that allow the innocient to escape and then nuke the people responsible for the murder.

Wouldn't they flee with the innocent people? I doubt they would stick around for very long, considering the nuke and all.

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And besides that was a rational based upon my anger towards the Muslim world.

It is a relatively small group of these people that are terrorists, just as there is a only small group of "Christians" that run around in matching white outfits and pointy hoods. Islam does not teach violence, but there are some people that interpret it this way, so to justify their violent actions.

AquaticAmbi 07-20-2005 08:24 PM

No. Don't bring that argument into this thread.

Being a Christian, I believe in a Heaven and such. I don't really have any idea of what I except it to be like though. I fear dying young and living out the rest of my life, having a family, etc. I especially fear dying of a fast death, however painless. I'd prefer a long-term time of dying so I could reflect on my life, say my good-byes, and appreciate my final moments.

Jacob 07-21-2005 04:20 AM

I'm really not that fussed when it comes to death, in fact, i do look forward to it. The world is becoming a crappier and crappier place and what with the bias towards people who aren't brown or black, it's just going to get worse. We can't say 'black board' because it's racist, we can't give our opinion without being branded narrow-minded or an idiot. The world is crap.

I'm sort of hoping that when we die we can still see what goes on, however, 'cos i'd love to see what the world will be like in a couple of millenia.

Facsimile 07-22-2005 02:51 AM

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We can't say 'black board' because it's racist

Is that a hyperbole or is that what it's really like in England?

Rich 07-22-2005 04:23 AM

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Is that a hyperbole or is that what it's really like in England?

It's really like that. 'Blackboard' is considered racist so now we all have 'whiteboards', equally racist, right?

Also, the term 'brainstorm' is also now frowned upon as being offensive towards people who suffer epileptic fits. They're now 'mind-maps' or a 'spider diagrams'. :p

used:) 07-22-2005 05:35 AM

I'm so sick of all this racist bullshit. Why can't we just look at someone and see another human being?

Jacob 07-22-2005 08:14 AM

In all honesty, it's such things as 'Blackboards' and 'Brain storms' that emphasise difference and only tighten the Racial tension. I hate shtuffs like that. 'Southpark' did a really good episode on racial issues, with a really good moral at the end.

Whooo to 'Southpark'!

used:) 07-22-2005 11:39 AM

^^Apparantly it had no affect on you.

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It's really like that. 'Blackboard' is considered racist so now we all have 'whiteboards', equally racist, right?

Also, the term 'brainstorm' is also now frowned upon as being offensive towards people who suffer epileptic fits. They're now 'mind-maps' or a 'spider diagrams'. :p

Well, they can take their manners, mind maps, and all that other bullshit and shove it up their sorry asses! :flames: I will continue to speak how I have always spoken.

Hobo 07-22-2005 11:43 AM

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Also, the term 'brainstorm' is also now frowned upon as being offensive towards people who suffer epileptic fits. They're now 'mind-maps' or a 'spider diagrams'. :p

Don't forget thought shower!

Anyway, this is straying from the topic...