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big bro slig #1 05-05-2005 07:51 PM

Is oddworld being copied?
 
A couple of days ago and i was looking around and i came across this this: http://infam.antville.org/static/inf...vil_fuzzle.jpg

Have all of oddworld's creatures been copyrighted or not? :fuzconf:

Abe16 05-05-2005 08:58 PM

Oh...my...god, did they even ask for permisson?

Nath 05-06-2005 03:03 AM

they've called it a fuzzle, but it has feet.

Dipstikk 05-06-2005 04:08 AM

People do the darndest things when they don't have any origonal ideas of their own.

What the hell kind of card game is that, anyway? Don't tell me it's that goddamn Neopets shit.

T-nex 05-06-2005 04:13 AM

Ehm... I've seen fuzzles like these alot of places.. I don't think that enyone's copying anyone...
Just that the name Fuzzle fits on a... a fuzzly fur-ball..... O.o

mudling 05-06-2005 04:38 AM

yeah, i agree. it has a differnet design, just a common name, and that site was made before year 2 thousand, i think, so that design could have been made before munches oddysee.

stingbee 05-06-2005 07:10 AM

how can a fuzzle eat a spaceship.It needs oxygen.

Abe16 05-06-2005 07:19 AM

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how can a fuzzle eat a spaceship.It needs oxygen.

Well, it's their own creation,(Doubtfully) and it's probably an alien to them. And being an alien they must breath in space.

big bro boogie 05-06-2005 07:29 AM

well, i'd say let them be
but if it aint legal... not a prob for me

General Dripikk 05-06-2005 07:32 AM

Yeah, i've seen stuff like that. I don't think it's actually coping at all.

Oddish 05-06-2005 07:35 AM

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People do the darndest things when they don't have any origonal ideas of their own.

You got that right.

Very unoriginal indeed, and what's even more un original is the name "fuzzle". But yeah, fuzzle is a common things funnly enought, I have seen a few fuzzy like little criters in film and TV. I wounder if oddworld inhabitants know about this, if they don't then there might be trouble. It's unlikey that it could just be a coincidence. They just added feet, other than that it's pretty much a fuzzle.

Teal 05-06-2005 09:01 AM

Like someone before said, "fuzzle" isn't exactly the most original of names. I mean, Neopets is supposed to be some cutesy game with huggable fluffikins animals, and it doesn't take a leap of imagination to go from "fuzzy" or "fuzz-ball" to "fuzzle". I mean, another forum I post on (most of whom probably haven't even HEARD of Oddworld uses the word "confuzzled" as part of its forum-lingo (and yes, before anyone asks, *I* suggested the name for the puzzled fuzzle-icon on here that's called "confuzzled", and I can confirm the SB used it before it became an icon name on here. It was too tempting an idea not to doodle it, as I thought it suitable). After all, the Tolkien universe has sligs (which I think are swamp dwellers, or something) and I don't think OWI copied Tolkien or vice versa.

I think it's simply a coincidence. *shrugs* This reaction is a bit like the knee-jerk "OMG U COPYED ME U ART THEEF BLUE DOGS ARE MINE OMG I'M GOING TO COME KILL U WIT AN AX NOW!!!!11! AN NOBODY WILL LIEK YU NEMORE BECOSE YOU PLAGERISED ME!!!one!!" that's rife in the art community. The self-appointed Art Police (aka fanboys) even jump on people for "concept theft" or "style theft" these days. Something inspired OWI to create a fuzzle - is it that unrealistic that someone else could have had the same inspiration? Very little in the world is truly original these days. Sure, it may be inspired by Oddworld - but I'd be more inclined to think it was "stolen" if they had mudokons or glukkons on there.

As an aside, I've heard it said that anything you create is automatically copyright to you - it's just proving it that's the hard bit. And you can't copyright a name; you can trademark it, and if it's unusual enough it's hardly likely a potential plagiarist will get away with the whole "but *I* made that up myself!" if there's a dispute, but you can't copyright names or common words.

Smell 05-06-2005 10:37 AM

It is from neopets, it said on the card. My friend plays it, but it's some trading card game as well I think.

Xavier 05-06-2005 12:43 PM

actually those Fuzzles existed before Munch's Oddysee I believe...
this has allready been discussed

OddAlchemist 05-06-2005 02:41 PM

yea i saw it to on another website i was on. i dont think there copying it just resembles the fur and vicious teeth, and it has green chicken feet.

big bro slig #1 05-06-2005 02:48 PM

Well don't you think it's a little suspisous that they look almost EXACTLY the same as the original?

http://www.realitytvaddict.com/modul...zzle.thumb.gif

ANN NEELY 05-06-2005 04:23 PM

Yeah, it is those friggin' Neopets fault, all right...but it came before MO, I am positive.

Coolmanbizkit 05-06-2005 04:28 PM

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Yeah, it is those friggin' Neopets fault, all right...but it came before MO, I am positive.

It did, Neopets was up in like... 1999 and the fuzzles were one of the first things out.

sligco 05-06-2005 04:31 PM

neopets started 1997

Coolmanbizkit 05-06-2005 04:33 PM

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neopets started 1997

Only out by two years, But fuzzles were still out by then.

sligco 05-06-2005 04:34 PM

i dont think neopets copied fuzzles

Coolmanbizkit 05-06-2005 04:40 PM

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i dont think neopets copied fuzzles

Neopets' Fuzzles were out way before MO's

big bro slig #1 05-06-2005 05:38 PM

I need somebody to get me proof that the fuzzle was made after 97.

Leto 05-06-2005 06:52 PM

At first the neopets 'fuzzles' were called Jib Jibs, so shut yer yaps.

And I mean, c'mon, it's a frickin' ball of hair with eyes. I see no one is defending the Tribbles, eh? Who ripped off them?

:nonono:

sligco 05-06-2005 09:37 PM

jib jibs are now jub jubs and fuzzle ar petpets or watever

Leto 05-06-2005 09:41 PM

But they were origionally actual pets, along with the Macy Grays.

God, it was actually worth going there once.

sligco 05-06-2005 09:41 PM

i dunno i still use the boards

Xavier 05-07-2005 03:09 AM

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I need somebody to get me proof that the fuzzle was made after 97.

the fuzzles were among the last creatures designed in MO... and in 97 OWI was working on AE (it came out the 23rd November 1998)

Androideka 05-07-2005 07:43 AM

I can't be sure but I thought fuzzles started out as petpets... still.... I think OWI had them at first. I remember reading it on a billboard LCD screen in Abes Exoddus

OddAlchemist 05-07-2005 11:36 AM

why would neopets want to try and copy Fuzzles anyway. ints just a simple name for a simple fuzz thing. just a coincidence there the same.

OddAlchemist 05-07-2005 11:38 AM

why would neopets want to try and copy Fuzzles anyway. ints just a simple name for a simple fuzz thing. its just a coincidence there the same

big bro slig #1 05-07-2005 03:51 PM

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the fuzzles were among the last creatures designed in MO... and in 97 OWI was working on AE (it came out the 23rd November 1998)

Not Completly tru because they were making these for MO in 95.

http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/togg...O/CAMO0036.jpg

http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/togg...O/CAMO0033.jpg

http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/togg...O/CAMO0034.jpg

Xavier 05-08-2005 07:52 AM

those designs were made for AO and then taken back for MO. 1995 is the date of the first desing.

Nate 05-08-2005 08:04 PM

Interesting that it says Munch on the bottom though. Maybe they were originally going to make Munch's Oddysee first but then decided to do Abe.

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And I mean, c'mon, it's a frickin' ball of hair with eyes. I see no one is defending the Tribbles, eh? Who ripped off them?

Good point, Lorne has made tonnes of references to tribbles in referring to the fuzzles.

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I can't be sure but I thought fuzzles started out as petpets... still.... I think OWI had them at first. I remember reading it on a billboard LCD screen in Abes Exoddus

No. Really. No.

Feel free to prove it with a screenshot.

But you won't.

Xavier 05-09-2005 11:05 AM

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Interesting that it says Munch on the bottom though. Maybe they were originally going to make Munch's Oddysee first but then decided to do Abe.


it's because they took those sketches back to work on Munch... (3D models and stuff), and that's the way they presented their art in that period.
Actually the art existed before they were put into those little frames.

Wil 05-15-2005 05:54 AM

Just goes to show how unoriginal the Fuzzles' design and name are. There was a quiet riot on OWF when they were newly revealed creatures.

Salamander 05-21-2005 12:47 AM

a ball of fuzz (furr) is not the most irigoinal idea like paramtes

p.s i saw a game last week called indeana jones in odd world strange huh? and it had nothing to do with oddworld

CarboN 05-22-2005 06:18 AM

A furry big-eyed ball, usually with legs, is a very common thing to draw.
http://images.neopets.com/pets/jubjub_blue_baby.gif
http://images.neopets.com/items/toy_evilfuzzel.gif
http://images.neopets.com/items/toy_bluefuzzle.gif

Even Croc has fuzballs.
http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/gbc/gbcscans3/croc.jpg

Elodie 05-22-2005 04:43 PM

I agree with a lot of the comments made, but I wouldn't exactly call it copying or cheap. I mean, for one they are just balls of fluff with feet. And secondly, who cares, it's not like their claiming its there design, in fact if they do intend it to resemble an Oddworldian Fuzzle i'm sure there aware that users would notice the design.

It's interesting however to see the difference between the characters like scrabs and paramites compared to fuzzles, which are quite uniriginal compared to them. But then again i don't think their concept was intended as being that complex, they wanted them to have an easy to get, no too deep story behind them. Balls of fluff that want revenge!

Email neopets and ask them yourself whats the deal with the fuzzle designs, im sure because of the bizzare nature of the email you'd get a reply. So long as you ask them politely.

drakan90 06-05-2005 11:23 AM

Why the hell has this topic taken up 2 pages!?
It was explained right at the beginning!
Fuzzle-Common name for fuzzy thing-not exactly original
Neopets - Made a Fuzzy thing first. Whoop-dee-doo

Why has this not been closed?