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Kimon 04-20-2005 04:54 PM

4/20
 
Is anybody celebrating 4/20? I'm just curious. I can't because it's a Wednsday and I have tons of homework.

For those who don't know, 4/20 is National Marijuana Day. In the US, at least.

Dino 04-20-2005 04:59 PM

Yeah dude, I'm smoking a bowl of homegrown right now. :D

Happy 4/20 everyone!

Leto 04-20-2005 05:17 PM

There's a day for this kinda thing...? Now I have an excuse! Huzzoi! :D Somes been drying for a while now, anyways...

Dino 04-20-2005 05:44 PM

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Somes been drying for a while now, anyways...

By that do you mean you've been curing some homegrown? Or have you just been letting your stash go all dry you silly boy?

If it's the first one then hit me up with a PM and we can exchange growing tips. :D

Kimon 04-20-2005 06:00 PM

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Yeah dude, I'm smoking a bowl of homegrown right now. :D

Happy 4/20 everyone!

Mmmmm... homegrown. I'd do that, but I heard it smells a lot after about 6 inches. Plus, my mom constantly raids my room. Well, happy Hash Day!

TheRaisin 04-20-2005 06:16 PM

I'll ask you people the question I've asked everyone who talks about the significance of the 20th of April. WHAT is the significance of the 20th of April?! In other words, why is it National Marijuana Day?

Kimon 04-20-2005 07:11 PM

It's because 420 is the police term for a marijuana bust (the thing they say over the radio, i.e. we've got a 420 here, over. *kkksshchcht*). And that's why 4/20 is a special day for weed. :)

Godlesswanderer 04-20-2005 07:44 PM

There's tons of theories about why it's on the 20th on April (4/20). One is the one above. Another is that the a group of college students in the US way back used to meet up at 4:20 in the afternoon for an afternoon joint session (:D). I can't remember any more.

I havn't read it yet but for more info, check here.

Dino 04-20-2005 09:07 PM

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Mmmmm... homegrown. I'd do that, but I heard it smells a lot after about 6 inches. Plus, my mom constantly raids my room. Well, happy Hash Day!

Growing in your parents house is a bad idea. But it is possible to do it without them noticing. You can grow in your wardrobe, closet, in a rubbermaid, in a speaker box, anywhere!

Also, it's not true that it smells a lot after 6 inches. It only smells during flowering. If you start flowering at 6 inches (which would produce next to nothing but lets just assume you did) then you would start to get a smell at 6 inches and beyond. If you didn't flower until it was 2 foot tall, then you wouldn't get a smell for as long as it took to grow all 24 inches.

At least, that's as far as my experience has gone. I've never had any smells until flowering.

Also, you can get strains that don't smell much at all. Apollo 11 and C99 are well known for this. However if you do decide to go with something smelly (like skunk, white widow, northern lights, or AK47) you could always get or make a carbon filter.

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I'll ask you people the question I've asked everyone who talks about the significance of the 20th of April. WHAT is the significance of the 20th of April?! In other words, why is it National Marijuana Day?

A 420 is police radio reporting code for a marijuana arrest. 4/20 is national stick it to the man day as a result of this. People will often gather and openly smoke weed in public on 4/20. Also it is the day when a lot of pro-MJ-legalisation marches happen. Interestingly the police don't usually intervene.

Jacob 04-21-2005 07:08 AM

Weed is ick. And i loathe the fact they've made a day for it. We might as well have a day for everything at this rate "National Rape day", "National Foetus eating day", "National Black pride day".

Christ.

Kimon 04-21-2005 11:28 AM

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Weed is ick. And i loathe the fact they've made a day for it. We might as well have a day for everything at this rate "National Rape day", "National Foetus eating day", "National Black pride day".

Christ.

Well, unlike those things (besides the last, I don't see what's wrong with that), smoking weed isn't morally wrong or harmful. Actually, I find that it's the most harmless (in terms of doing stupid stuff that hurts people).

And Dino, are saying you have your own place? But you're only a year older than me... it must be that you graduate earlier, hence leaving for college two years before to me (Damn you). Is that it?

Rich 04-21-2005 02:24 PM

Wow. I didn't know that this existed. Happy thoughts for everyone who smoked a joint on the big day. ;)

Jacob 04-21-2005 02:56 PM

'smoking weed isn't morally wrong or harmful.'

Nobody knows if it's harmful or not. There have been mixed reports. Some including suggestions that it increases the chances of suffering from paranoia/depression.

Joy(!)

Dino 04-21-2005 03:37 PM

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Weed is ick. And i loathe the fact they've made a day for it. We might as well have a day for everything at this rate "National Rape day", "National Foetus eating day", "National Black pride day".

Christ.

What the fuck?

I don't know who has told you what you've been told about weed, but whoever they are, they're a total liar.

You seriously need to educate yourself on the facts before you go saying things like that and comparing weed to rape, abortion, and racism.

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'smoking weed isn't morally wrong or harmful.'

Nobody knows if it's harmful or not. There have been mixed reports. Some including suggestions that it increases the chances of suffering from paranoia/depression.

Joy(!)

You need to fucking read this:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

Coolmanbizkit 04-21-2005 03:44 PM

I would but i dont have any :( lol, I would try it if i could get some though :)

TheRaisin 04-21-2005 03:46 PM

Heh. Well that link was informative, but so completely biased. Rite of passage? DAMAGED by being excluded from smoking pot? Mmmyeaaahh right. I don't care if people smoke pot, but this guy sounds like he wants to go around getting young adults to do it. But anyway.

4/20. The legend is revealed. Thanks.

Coolmanbizkit 04-21-2005 03:47 PM

Ok... I dont understand most things that you said in that post Raisin lol, Im and idiot.

TheRaisin 04-21-2005 03:50 PM

Uh. Did you read the link?

Coolmanbizkit 04-21-2005 03:57 PM

Oh, that link, I didnt see it.

Kimon 04-21-2005 03:58 PM

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'smoking weed isn't morally wrong or harmful.'

Nobody knows if it's harmful or not. There have been mixed reports. Some including suggestions that it increases the chances of suffering from paranoia/depression.

Joy(!)

I was referring to being harmful for those around you. Usually you don't do stupid deadly stuff when you're high. Like that anti-drug commercial where that kid's like, "Hey, this my dad's gun. Hehe." And the other kid says, "Hehe. I wonder if it's loaded." Then the kid accidentally shoots him. That sorta stuff doesn't happen. Stoned people would be too scared to touch a gun, at least stoned people with any common sense. Yeah, it does have bad effects on the person taking it of course, but that's the case with everything.

Dino 04-21-2005 04:12 PM

Like I said. Read this:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

Coolmanbizkit 04-21-2005 04:19 PM

Scientists in the UK, are doing new investigations on Marijuana. I dont know if its good or bad things about it though.

Kimon 04-21-2005 04:43 PM

"stimulating appetite in AIDS patients"

Haha. AIDS people got the munchies. :)
That's a good article, Dino. Disproves many common misconcpetions.

Dino 04-21-2005 06:31 PM

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"stimulating appetite in AIDS patients"

Haha. AIDS people got the munchies. :)
That's a good article, Dino. Disproves many common misconcpetions.

What's scary is it reveals the true extent of official government anti-drugs propaganda, spread by organisations who disseminate misinformation about marijuana among the general public. This criminalises marijuana users and growers, forcing them to distance themselves from society.

It just goes to show that marijuana is very much oppressed - people SHOULD march, publicly demonstrate, and have "marijuana pride" days. It's the same kind of oppression that has effected homosexuals and black people, and there's only one way to fight it: to educate the people on the facts of MJ, the realities of the MJ oppression, and unite MJ supporters against those who's only goal in life is to spoil things for others.

It's NOT RIGHT to jail someone simply for growing and/or smoking a plant that's less harmless than both tobacco and alcohol combined. It's a breach of human rights of biblical proportions.

Smoke on brothers. :smokin:

Coolmanbizkit 04-21-2005 06:34 PM

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What's scary is it reveals the true extent of official government anti-drugs propaganda, spread by organisations who disseminate misinformation about marijuana among the general public. This criminalises marijuana users and growers, forcing them to distance themselves from society.

It just goes to show that marijuana is very much oppressed - people SHOULD march, publicly demonstrate, and have "marijuana pride" days. It's the same kind of oppression that has effected homosexuals and black people, and there's only one way to fight it: to educate the people on the facts of MJ, the realities of the MJ oppression, and unite MJ supporters against those who's only goal in life is to spoil things for others.

It's NOT RIGHT to jail someone simply for growing and/or smoking a plant that's less harmless than both tobacco and alcohol combined. It's a breach of human rights of biblical proportions.

Smoke on brothers. :smokin:

Amen to that!

Someone in America got put in prison for 5 years just for growing some MJ, Ill try to find something about it. But isnt that pathetic 5 years just for doing some gardening... pretty much.

Dino 04-21-2005 06:38 PM

I'll see if I can get some pictures of my weed plants online and post them here. Just to kinda say "fuck the man" and celebrate the occasion. :D

Coolmanbizkit 04-21-2005 06:39 PM

Yeah, That would be kool. I'd like to see some of you Home grown :D

Kimon 04-22-2005 04:40 AM

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I'll see if I can get some pictures of my weed plants online and post them here. Just to kinda say "fuck the man" and celebrate the occasion. :D

Sweet idea. I'd love to see that. Stick it to the man! :D

Godlesswanderer 04-22-2005 08:58 AM

About the links, I havn't checked them out yet so I don't know about their extensiveness. But you can also get some info on weed/marijuana/herb/green/and whatever else you want to call it, at http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml

For people that want to know the true effects of the plant, you can take a look at http://www.erowid.org/experiences/su...Cannabis.shtml for some info on different experiences different people have had.

Coolmanbizkit 04-22-2005 10:37 AM

Scientists in the UK have discovered that, Text Messaging damages your brain more than smoking Weed does

Rich 04-22-2005 11:10 AM

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Scientists in the UK have discovered that, Text Messaging damages your brain more than smoking Weed does
Woo! Such advances in science! I bet they'll prove that 100% of texters are complete and utter ****ing dickheads next.

MJ is such a magical plant, if it really is as wonderfully harmless as we all think, why don't they legalise it (the government being dickheads is not the answer to this question)?

Coolmanbizkit 04-22-2005 11:17 AM

You know that lady who made Canabis cakes? Well shes appealing to legalise MJ For cake baking purposes i think and for Smoking It... You never know, It might work.

Coolmanbizkit 04-22-2005 04:44 PM

Sorry to double post but i need to bump this up for one reason. Apparently if the people in the UK vote for the Lib Dems they will legalize home grown weed! :D

Once again sorry for the double post :(

Dino 04-22-2005 05:28 PM

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For people that want to know the true effects of the plant, you can take a look at http://www.erowid.org/experiences/su...Cannabis.shtml for some info on different experiences different people have had.

The first link is fine but the second one is a bit misleading. The type of experience you get during a high depends entirely on the strain of the plant that you're smoking. For instance a c99 strain cannabis sativa will give you a heady, "up, energetic" high, whereas a big bud strain cannabis indica will give you a body, "couchlock", lazy stone.

If you smoke a tiny quantity, you'll get a mini euphoric feeling, you'll just feel slightly happier and brighter. If you smoke a big amount, you'll get hit by the full force of the plant, and get a more full on strain-specific high. You'll either get full on head, full on body, or balanced head and body stone.

If you eat uncured bud, you'll get blasted. It'll just annihilate you. Especially if it's good shit. It'll be an altogether different kind of high or stone than what you'll get when you cure it and smoke it.

So how your experience goes is dependant on a number of factors:

-"Strain/breed/variety" of plant, and species of plant (sativa or indica).
-How much weed you take.
-How you take it (eating, bonging, smoking, vapourising, eating uncured).
-How long you've been doing weed.
-The conditions the plant grew in.
-The way your body reacts to it.

As you can see, there are a number of variables that you can control to tailor your experience to fit your personal preferences. Not everybody likes a certain type of high. Some people like more of an energetic, up, chatty high, while others like a more stoned, body couchlock type of high. Tailoring your high is what makes MJ a hobby rather than just a drug. If you don't make any attempt to tailor it, then you're not really experiencing the full potential of the plant.

Personally, I grow my own so that I can tailor my high's to be energetic heady highs. I find that couchlock body highs usually make me feel sick if they're too potent. But also I like the luck of the draw, and the randomness of the smoke that you get from smoking a friend's weed. You never know who they bought it from, or what type of plant it came from.

Hope people found this useful. Took me ages to type it. :D

Godlesswanderer 04-22-2005 06:40 PM

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So how your experience goes is dependant on a number of factors:

-"Strain/breed/variety" of plant, and species of plant (sativa or indica).
-How much weed you take.
-How you take it (eating, bonging, smoking, vapourising, eating uncured).
-How long you've been doing weed.
-The conditions the plant grew in.
-The way your body reacts to it.

Most experiences say most of those, apart from the conditions the plant grew in. For example, this one has how much weed they took, how they took it, how long they've been doing it and how their body reacts to it. They also have their body weight, which also affects how much weed gives them a good high. The reason being, big guys or girls bodies take longer to absorb the THC.

Dino 04-22-2005 09:36 PM

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They also have their body weight, which also affects how much weed gives them a good high. The reason being, big guys or girls bodies take longer to absorb the THC.

That's just a myth.

Because THC enters the body through smoke in the lungs, it gets into the bloodstream nearly straight away - the longer you hold it in, the more you get in the blood. Bigger people do not actually physically find themselves being affected any sooner or later than anyone else who smokes weed.

Also, I have found that most of those stories are probably just made up. A lot of them talk of very delayed affects from smoking MJ... for instance not even feeling a thing until half an hour later... but in reality the affects kick in almost straight after you've finished smoking it. Here's a basic rundown of what happens, in order of when it happens:

- You smoke your blunt, this takes about 5 minutes, and you'll begin to notice that it's having a slight affect.

- After smoking, you'll notice a slight "whoooaa... feeling a little wierd" kind of mild dizziness. Especially as you're walking. If the stuff you're smoking normally gives an energetic high, then at this point you will notice that you're more socially lubricated and chatty.

- After about 5 minutes of this, the stone will kick in. Depending on the plant, this will either be couchlock, energetic, or couchlock sociable.

- In a body couchlock stone, you'll feel like your legs have turned to jelly, like you're having panic attack, you'll have no energy, and feel like shit when you try to get up and walk around - you'll be relaxed, dozy, and feel good when you're sitting down - afterwards you'll feel very sleepy.

- In an up, energetic high, you'll feel really happy, chatty, and sociable - you'll be totally carefree and have loads of energy all of a sudden, if there's music then you'll have a heightened appreciation of it - afterwards you might feel a bit tired, or you'll just gradually go back to your normal self. All of this lasts for between 30 minutes to an hour and 30 minutes.

- Towards the end and after the stone, your mouth will go dry, and you may get the munchies. You'll certainly have a desire to drink plenty of cocacola. If you get the munchies and have something to eat, you'll probably avoid the sleepy feeling that you normally get after being stoned.

Wil 04-23-2005 07:43 AM

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Scientists in the UK have discovered that, Text Messaging damages your brain more than smoking Weed does
Surely that's only if you're talented enough to hold the phone to your head while texting. Myself, I only reserve that for phone calls.

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Apparently if the people in the UK vote for the Lib Dems they will legalize home grown weed!
“What's my view on drugs?”
-- Boris Johnson, legend, campaigning

Dino 04-23-2005 02:01 PM

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Surely that's only if you're talented enough to hold the phone to your head while texting. Myself, I only reserve that for phone calls.

Using a mobile phone is a bit like putting your ear against a microwave door while it's operating at full blast and keeping it there for 5 to 10 minutes.

Given a choice between that and smoking a blunt for 5 to 10 minutes, I think I'd rather smoke a blunt. It's less risk to my health, does more for me, doesn't cost so damn much to use, and doesn't scream "steal me steal me steal me!" whenever it's on public display.