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Oddfan 02-07-2005 01:56 PM

Abe games for Xbox
 
I think that OW should come out with AO and AE again for the Xbox cause I miss the original games as much as I loved MO and how awesome SW is I still miss the old stuff!! *day dreams of simpler days* :D

RupturedFarmer 02-07-2005 02:16 PM

I'm not to big on remakes of anything...so I dunno about this.

But if its a DIRECT PORT and there is no digital remastering, I MIGHT go with this.

Oddfan 02-07-2005 02:18 PM

yeah I don't think anything has to be redone it's fine the way it is but I have an xbox not a ps1 and those would be good games to have so whenever ur bored u have OW cause those were games I could never get sick of.

Angel-FoX-crescent 02-07-2005 02:24 PM

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yeah I don't think anything has to be redone it's fine the way it is but I have an xbox not a ps1 and those would be good games to have so whenever ur bored u have OW cause those were games I could never get sick of.

Yeah I agree coz it would be fun just have an hours play on MO then if your in the mood you could simply slot in Abe's oddysee in rather then muck around seting up another game machine as that gets very boring.

OANST 02-07-2005 02:34 PM

I was thinking that they should do this and make Sligstorm (which has the same gameplay as the original games but played as a slig) and release them togethor. That wwould be great.

Nate 02-07-2005 02:45 PM

Okay peoples, how about searching the forum and taking a look at Alf before starting a thread?

Though it would be great if they were to re-release the abe games and also put out SligStorm, its not going to happen. OWI don't own the publishing rights to these games. GT Interactive used to own them until they shut down and now they are hovering somewhere in the aether.

Volsung 02-07-2005 02:46 PM

A rerelease on a new system is probably something a publisher would push for, and not necessarily the developer. I could very well be wrong, since I don't know much about the game industry or the original plan to rerelease the two games. But if they do I think sligstorm would be a very cool addition. It was supposed to be maybe fifty screens? I think OWI could do that. But when they would find time, I don't know.

Either way I doubt we're looking at a rerelease before the next game. And for that matter, probably not before the new systems.

Nate 02-07-2005 02:53 PM

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A rerelease on a new system is probably something a publisher would push for, and not necessarily the developer.

I suspect that you were writing your post already when I posted mine so I will refer you on to that one and repeat that there is no publisher any more.

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But when they would find time, I don't know.

I think that this is what you call wishful thinking. They would have to come up with 50 new highly detailed backgrounds, lots of new characters and AI as well as a few FMVs for a game that doesn't really have a market (unfortunately).

smerles 02-07-2005 02:55 PM

Re-releasing the games might be a nice idea... But I think this would be very much work to do...
I'd really like to know if the new PSP is compatible to old Playstation games... That would be kinda cool, having Abe all the time with ya in the pocket :D

Nate 02-07-2005 02:57 PM

Nah, how would you fit the disk into it? It would probably need some work to convert it anyway.

Abeguy 02-07-2005 03:00 PM

And about SligStorm, they should continue and put it on
PC and so the peeps without an xbox can have it

Nate 02-07-2005 07:49 PM

*puts on responsible hat*

Okay everyone; let's just remember that OWI are humans too and they are trying to create great, artistic, stylish computer games in a market that often doesn't regard those qualities.

Let's not expect them to jump up and down on every whim that we have. Yes, it would be nice if they made Sligstorm but no, its not going to happen.

Viper45 02-07-2005 08:34 PM

Although it's obviously extremely unlikely (not going) to happen, I would LOVE to have the Abe games on my Xbox. I think it would be incredible if it were to have re-rendered (higher-res, not re-worked) graphics.

Although now that I really think about it, the games were such master pieces that maybe it's better they're left alone.

Fuzzle Guy 02-07-2005 11:02 PM

In the XBM, it said that AE already had been released on Xbox. Is that true?

Leto 02-07-2005 11:35 PM

What?!? Can you scan such a holy document? Ok, prolly not. But, wha? Since when was it ever concieved for Xbox? (It is most probably not true, though I would love to be wrong.)

Sligstorm = No, no, no, no, I'm not goin' back there.

AE + AO On Xbox = Just think about it. No springs to mind. A box set for PS2, more likely so. Just put the two origional in a fanciful box. Reel f/-\ /\/ < iF \_/ L . Hope for that, if anthing.

AWWW 02-08-2005 01:01 AM

A remake for the PSP would be cool...

But a remake for the DS would be even better...

Or a re-release port of the orginal games to the X-Box may do.

Thinking about it now, would the game actually play well using the X-Box controller S??
Does alot of people want to see a re-released AO+AE (in a pack)
My copys are not in good any more conditions... :(

Software Bug 02-08-2005 01:14 AM

PSP and DS sucks
i would like to see the remakes in 3D bechause with a modded xbox you already can play the PSone games

erwinraaben55 02-08-2005 01:18 AM

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A remake for the PSP would be cool...

But a remake for the DS would be even better...

Or a re-release port of the orginal games to the X-Box may do.

Thinking about it now, would the game actually play well using the X-Box controller S??
Does alot of people want to see a re-released AO+AE (in a pack)
My copys are not in good any more conditions... :(

In that case I would say the remake for the psp is better. First of all I think the psp will be sold better than the DS. Second it has better graphix, and last but not least, I don't want to buy a DS :p. And what should you do with the touchscreen?? I don't think it can be usefull. And how can you use 2 screens, I don't think they can use a second one, so that's a waist of the capability of the DS.

Coming to the xbox part, I don't have the S controller, so that doesn't go for me. But also then I don't think it will be played well with a xbox controller. I still think that the ps controllers are one of the best controllers there are if you talk about how good you can use it. The feeling is great, there are no buttons hard to reach. You don't get a hurt wrist like with the big xbox controller. To me it is almost perfect.

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PSP and DS sucks
i would like to see the remakes in 3D bechause with a modded xbox you already can play the PSone games

Give me a break. 3D would ruin everything about the good old Abe games. That was the charme, 2D. I would love to see more games from oddworld in 2D like the Abe games. Or as a bonus game in the next oddworld game, if you finish the game, you unlock a new 2d game. That would be cool.

And PSP and DS don't suck, YOU just don't like it. But believe me, if you get your hands on a PSP, you would want one too ;)

smerles 02-08-2005 01:30 AM

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Nah, how would you fit the disk into it? It would probably need some work to convert it anyway.

Discs for PSP have nearly the capacity of normal PS2 discs. And PSP has only a little bit less power than PS2. :D Look at Ridge Racer or Metal Gear A.C.I.D. Maybe the modding scene will bring out some tools to port old PS games, connection to PSP wouldn't be a problem, it comes with a USB data link. And DIVX codec for movies :D Nice toy :)

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I would love to see more games from oddworld in 2D like the Abe games. Or as a bonus game in the next oddworld game, if you finish the game, you unlock a new 2d game. That would be cool.

Or a game in the game! :D So when Stranger or Munch or even Abe or the unknown new hero get to a gaming machine in the 3d world they insert a coin and play the old games :fuzgrin: :D That would be great!

Wil 02-08-2005 11:22 AM

It's quite a nice idea, all the more when the idea of reviving SligStorm is mentioned, but OWI have much bigger Worry Fish to fry right now: Citizen Seige, Stranger II, Munch's Exoddus, the Abe movie...

Nate 02-08-2005 12:47 PM

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Discs for PSP have nearly the capacity of normal PS2 discs. And PSP has only a little bit less power than PS2. :D Look at Ridge Racer or Metal Gear A.C.I.D. Maybe the modding scene will bring out some tools to port old PS games, connection to PSP wouldn't be a problem, it comes with a USB data link. And DIVX codec for movies :D Nice toy :)

I was answering your question about whether the PSP was compatible with PS1 games. The answer is obviously no because they take different disks. Whether it can be easily converted or not is a different issue but I beleive that the answer to that is no as well. Its probably easier than porting a PS2 game to Xbox but it's still not easy.

I think (hypothetically) that the DS would be a cool gaming system for a 2d Oddworld game. The two screens could extend the playing area so you aren't restricted to a small world-view and I'm sure they could come up with something for the touch screen. Whereas a PSP version would be much the same as the old games so it wouldn't be too revolutionary. But this is all hypothetical, I doubt it will ever happen.

Alpha 02-08-2005 12:49 PM

It's possible but the graphic's would'nt improve much after all it's a 2d game.

smerles 02-08-2005 01:03 PM

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Whereas a PSP version would be much the same as the old games so it wouldn't be too revolutionary.

Well... They would be in my jacket all the time :D Stupid Sony that they don't make the old games playable on PSP... I mean even today you can put the oldest Gameboy games in your shiny new Gameboy DS, but PSOne games not on PSP. Sucks :(

Nate 02-08-2005 01:11 PM

Well it's a new paradigm for them so you can't really compare.

Yes, I've always wanted to use the word paradigm in a sentence.

Leto 02-08-2005 01:14 PM

Psp = Unlikely. Get that into your um, heads, yes. Hasn't OWI done a deal with Microsoft, anyways? Or am I just stupid?

(Oh yeah, Lorne and Shenna got full control of OWI... My bad. :P)

Oddfan 02-08-2005 01:56 PM

ok well nate dog woof ur a party pooper haha jk, and also I doubt they would do a psp or ds release cause of the microsoft contract, and the xbox controls would be fine don't forget about the d pad if the joysticks don't work. I wouldn't think that it would be that much work to convert the ps1 games into 1 xbox game instead of a box set it would be 2 games on one disk or better yet 3 I almost forgot about sligstorm!

Nate 02-08-2005 03:44 PM

a) There is no Microsoft contract anymore. Their publisher is EA.
b) Try to use punctuation in your posts. It's really hard to read.

Leto 02-08-2005 03:54 PM

This time, I actually agree with NDW. Speak english/ use punctuation. And dont use abbreviations, they are so, so anally retentive. Just, not as much. Very n00by, yes.

Kimon 02-08-2005 04:12 PM

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This time, I actually agree with NDW. Speak english/ use punctuation. And dont use abbreviations, they are so, so anally retentive. Just, not as much. Very n00by, yes.

Haha. The phrase is 'anal retentive'. 'Anally retentive' seems like it would refer to somebody with a retentive anus. :p

P.S. Your avatar is hysterical.

Nate 02-08-2005 05:48 PM

Which would be what anal retentive means also. Think about it. The two phrases are pretty much interchangeable.

And, just to stay on-topic:

Errr...

I'm actually not too sure how good the Abe games would be on handhelds as they have lower resolution than your typical PC monitor so you'll miss out on the amazingness of the graphics, especially the backgrounds.

Gretin 02-08-2005 07:59 PM

Hmmm... AO and AE on Xbox could be good, but I personally don't really care (partly because I have those two games on PC:D). But, this was asked at the Dear Alf section on www.oddworld.com and here's Alf's reply:

"...you want to play the other games on Xbox? This is the most refreshing thing I have heard of since Mango Iced Tea! It would be great to move AO and AE over to Xbox. Of course that would be enough work for an entire development team and would probably take a few years.... If we did it the fans might get angry at us for not moving forward, after all, we are but a tiny little development studio.... but if MICROSOFT did it... hmmmmm......."

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I wouldn't think that it would be that much work to convert the ps1 games into 1 xbox game

Maybe, maybe not, but I should think it would take a bit of work to convert the games from ps1 format to xbox format. I mean, it's probably sort of like programming for Windows, then making another version that is compatible with Linux (again, I'm not sure).

Nate 02-08-2005 08:19 PM

If a publisher thought there was a market they would probably hire an outside studio to do it (which is what I assume Alf meant in that quote) just like EA hired someone else to do the SW PS2 conversion.

But, as I said before, they don't have the rights and there isn't enough of a market. If there was, don't you think they would start off with a PC rerelease?

AWWW 02-08-2005 09:18 PM

So Stranger Wriath is being ported to the PS2??

Not many takers on the idea of Abe Oddysee and Abe Exoddus(dont use abbreviations- Super Munch) on the next generation of handheld (I don't see how 2 screen, one being touch is not going to make the game better...).

So most people here would want the first 2 games on the X-Box as either:

1.People missed on them, but got into Munch Oddysee and Stranger EDIT:Wrath

2.Want a update version with higher resolutions and no loading times, if possible new stuff, plus Sligstorm.

But OWI need another company to do the port as they are too small(and very busy)

Gretin 02-08-2005 09:25 PM

And as Nate_Dog_Woof said,
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They don't have the rights and there isn't enough of a market.
So, I guess the idea would be nice, but it doesn't really seem likely, or possible.

Leto 02-08-2005 10:50 PM

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Not many takers on the idea of Abe Oddysee and Abe Exoddus(dont use abbreviations- Super Munch)

Ah, the monkey finally learns how to use his brain. How absolutely wonderful. Keep it up, your making great progress. No, no, don't let me hold you back, learn maths and German while you're at it.
And I said
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Just, not as much.

Wake up, AWWW.

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Haha. The phrase is 'anal retentive'. 'Anally retentive' seems like it would refer to somebody with a retentive anus. :p

That was the point. :goof:

And to be on topic, as NDW has said, the PSP probably couldn't handle handle the resoloution of AO and AE's backgrounds. Perhaps simplified graphics, but that would make the game less beautiful.

Yes, AWWW, I used AO and AE as abbreviations. Get fucking over it. Who doesn't on these forums?

Wil 02-09-2005 07:46 AM

Stop it right now.

Leto 02-09-2005 01:13 PM

Trying :fuzemb: Just don't aggrovate me. Ahem, sorry AWWW. I just hate internet speak, particularly abbreviations.

Oddfan 02-11-2005 02:44 PM

But I like abbrevs! haha ok I'll try to puncutuate more.

"1.People missed on them, but got into Munch Oddysee and Stranger Wriath

2.Want a update version with higher resolutions and no loading times, if possible new stuff, plus Sligstorm." AWWW

I don't think that's so true, I just want them on xbox cause my ps1 broke a long time ago and having the games on xbox would be more convienent.

_GrubHunter_ 02-12-2005 01:49 AM

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But I like abbrevs! haha ok I'll try to puncutuate more.

"1.People missed on them, but got into Munch Oddysee and Stranger Wriath

2.Want a update version with higher resolutions and no loading times, if possible new stuff, plus Sligstorm." AWWW

I don't think that's so true, I just want them on xbox cause my ps1 broke a long time ago and having the games on xbox would be more convienent.

Please, don't write "Wriath" but "Wrath" :)

xX Munch Xx 02-12-2005 03:21 PM

Hmmm... Abe games for Xbox.. That would be great. MD is a bad ass game. Stranger looks great but i havent played it yet cause there all out when i go and buy a copy.