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Alcar 06-19-2004 04:20 AM

Bullet Hole
 
Has anyone else noticed the single bullet hole to be found on the armour Stranger is wearing? It is present in both recent and fairly old images:

http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/game...ranger-013.jpg

http://www.oddworlduniverse.com/game...ranger-030.jpg

Considering Oddworld Inhabitants take the creation of Characters very seriously, and the bullet hole is visible in both new and old images, is it safe to say the bullet hole holds some storyline behind it? Perhaps something that happened in his past. Furthermore, did the bullet fully penetrate his armour, I don't think we can conclude that from what we can see.

Alcar...

Hobo 06-19-2004 04:41 AM

Good work my yummy SMOD. Have a cookie.

I think you're onto something with the storyline thing, or it might just be a detail to add to the effect that he's a bounty hunter, no?

Alcar 06-19-2004 04:44 AM

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Good work my yummy SMOD. Have a cookie.

I think you're onto something with the storyline thing, or it might just be a detail to add to the effect that he's a bounty hunter, no?

*eats cookie*

It is very possible the bullet hole is simply an amour detail, I just get the impression it has emotional and storyline significance for Stranger. Perhaps one of the "bosses" is responsible for that bullet hole.

Alcar...

Xavier 06-19-2004 04:45 AM

I saw that too...
but I didn't tought there could be a whole backstory for that hole... Simply it's a part of the armour and so it's logic to find it back several times, plus the armour has to be quite strong to prevent Stranger to be hurt. I wonder what it's made of...

Alcar 06-19-2004 04:52 AM

I understand. It's the fact that there is a single bullet hole, positioned in the area we would assume his heart is (that is, if he has a heart... Steef anatomy illudes me at this point :p). It sort of gives you the impression that he was very close to death. Lol, another possible point arising from this is the impact of nearly dying. Stranger is a beast plagued with emotional trauma, afterall.

Ah, the possibilities are endless.

Alcar...

Xavier 06-19-2004 04:56 AM

I'm not quite sure Stranger is a Steef...

anyway, it's perfectly possible, but it wont be more then speculation before additional info is revealed

Sekto Springs 06-19-2004 05:47 AM

How could Stranger not be a Steef? It has been confirmed by Alf that he is a Steef. And if he isn't Steef, what makes him different?

As for the bullet hole, I think that it's just an extra touch to his armour, just presenting another element of his realism. I have a thought. What's Stranger's armour made out of? It looks like fragments of leathery material stitched together. Maybe it's the skin of some kind of thick-hided creature. A new creature?

EDIT: After looking at the "bullet hole" in his pancho (that's what I'm calling it) it looks as if the bullet didn't completely pierce the pancho. Looks more like a concave divot than a straight-though hole so maybe it didn't hit him. That's strong pancho-armour. Just observation.

Xavier 06-19-2004 08:16 AM

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How could Stranger not be a Steef? It has been confirmed by Alf that he is a Steef. And if he isn't Steef, what makes him different?

well, I can't find any quote of Alf telling us that Stranger = Steef
there is a mention that Steef is a creature name

EDIt: I can't see any hole in the Artwork of the Spectum 10

Fez 06-19-2004 08:21 AM

maybe he used to be a soldier? And got wounded in battle, but left the hole in his armour to show he survived?

Sekto Springs 06-19-2004 08:34 AM

Yes, kinda like he's saying "Don't mess with me! I survived a big bullet". :p

Xavier 06-19-2004 08:49 AM

yeah that's a good idea...
the way to show he is a "man" of battle.

Oddish 06-19-2004 09:05 AM

Phrehaps to show that he has exeprince. Xav, did'nt Lorne say on the X-actor that he called him a steef, a quote like "What we did with steef... " and showing us pics of his disigne.

A good name:
Oddworld's Stranger: We will Odd you! :P

Edit: You see Straners ears right on top of his hat, he must have long ears.

T-nex 06-19-2004 11:57 AM

Or also he just doesn't got enough money to buy a new armor :p

Sekto Springs 06-19-2004 01:58 PM

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Or also he just doesn't got enough money to buy a new armor :p

He should have plenty of money with all those bounties.

EDIT!: Look, he's got a smaller hole just beneath it!

sligster 06-19-2004 11:17 PM

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He should have plenty of money with all those bounties.

EDIT!: Look, he's got a smaller hole just beneath it!

and I belive a third one beneath that one as well.... people don't seem to like him very much.

I circled the bullet holes in red. It's a bit hard to see em, but their there.

Killa_47 06-19-2004 11:24 PM

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and I belive a third one beneath that one as well.... people don't seem to like him very much.

I circled the bullet holes in red. It's a bit hard to see em, but their there.


I only saw the one the first time i didn't know there were 3 on him this is intresting i also think that there is a storyline behind gettin shot......maybe a fmv wiv it 2 lol

Xavier 06-20-2004 12:08 AM

hmmm... does anyone rememnber there were bulletholes in the horns in the previous christmass card.
we know Stranger is going to have horns, I wonder if there is a link

Sekto Springs 06-20-2004 12:18 AM

Xav. He is going to have horns. I don't think you understand that he will transform eventually.

Xavier 06-20-2004 04:39 AM

hmmm, sorry but I don't get your point.
the horns could be damaged at the same moment as the armour

Sekto Springs 06-20-2004 04:55 AM

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hmmm, sorry but I don't get your point.
the horns could be damaged at the same moment as the armour

You edited your previous post since I posted. Originally you said he wouldn't have horns.

Xavier 06-20-2004 05:00 AM

I didn't edited my post...
ah anyway it doesn't matter

Havoc 06-20-2004 09:08 AM

I just noticed something to... he has a scar on his side, right next to the big bullet hole in his armor. It looks like an old wound stil recovering... but with the stiches just took out.

Fez 06-20-2004 09:10 AM

Thats not his skin, its just a tear in his clothing.

Havoc 06-20-2004 09:33 AM

no dude! thats his skin... either that or OWI did a realy bad job on making clothing on him.

Fez 06-20-2004 10:01 AM

look under his neck, its a different colour. And lok at his legs, they are the same colour as the "scar" but they have creases in them.

Xavier 06-20-2004 11:40 AM

the blueich thing is a shirt, and I don't see the scar you mean

oddguy 06-20-2004 01:21 PM

When I saw the bullet dent where his heart would be, I thought it may have some significance in the story, but now finding out there are three holes...I just think it may be neat little details OWI added.

-oddguy :cool:

Fez 06-21-2004 08:52 AM

Its Oddworld! He probably has three hearts that all got shot, which shows how hard he is.

Sekto Springs 06-21-2004 09:24 AM

Yeah. They missed the fourth. :lol:

Wil 06-21-2004 09:57 AM

I see the wound. It's obscured by shadow, and it's definitely part of Stranger's green undershirt. The texture of it is weird, though, that's why it might not look like regular fabric.

Jacob 07-08-2004 11:03 AM

What is it he's actually wearing? Because if it was an animal, he could have shot it to get it's skin...hence the bullet hole thing. I think he was abandoned as a child by his fellow race and those Salamander things adopted him...

Xavier 07-08-2004 11:21 AM

could be...
it' probably a kind of poncho, I dunno what it's made from

Sekto Springs 07-08-2004 11:30 AM

It looks like seperate pieces of the same material stitched together.

Alpha 09-07-2004 08:43 AM

one sentence....Poncho fur coverings made of alloy

Leto 09-07-2004 08:26 PM

Looks like leather to me. But from the bullet shots, it looks like wood...

Alpha 09-08-2004 09:06 AM

well this just proves stranger is either agile or just does a load a sneak kills or hes just not stupid enough to get shot cept once but now we have to ask ourselves how many bullet shots will be shown on his poncho when youve completed stranger?. im betting over 100

Nate 09-08-2004 02:12 PM

I doubt they will show bullet holes on him. That would be a lot of effort for something you really cant see (except for in supersized rendered images like that)