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SligStorm 01-11-2007 11:49 AM

Oddworld AO and AE style Ideas
 
What would be your ideas for things or features that could/should have been included in the AO and AE style Oddworld games?

For Example, I think it would have made the game better if there were Breakable Slam Doors,Cameras (like the one from AO Intro Video) that could see you if they were facing the right way (would have some sort of indication of where it can and can't see you such as, A Red Beam coming from the lense) and set off an alarm.

Post your AO or AE inprovements\ideas here!

dripik_12 01-11-2007 11:53 AM

good idea, SligStorm!:D

I think It would be cool if you can ride Scrabs and Paramites in the game:p

Jordan 01-11-2007 12:38 PM

The ability to possess Paramites and Scrabs in AO, Paramites in the Stockyards, Paramites in the actual Paramonian forest, and Scrabs in the actual Scrabanian Desert.
Being able to possess fleeches in AE, and being able to shoot em! -_-

Andrelvis 01-11-2007 12:44 PM

Having Meeches and Vykkers in the game, and being able to possess them.

@SligStorm: Is your avatar really from the SligStorm would-be game or did you create it?

SligStorm 01-11-2007 12:55 PM

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Having Meeches and Vykkers in the game, and being able to possess them.

@SligStorm: Is your avatar really from the SligStorm would-be game or did you create it?

I got a picture of a slig from the Oddworld Inhabitance Website,cut it out on paint then Recoloured it on PSP (Paint Shop Pro)

You really think it looks that good? :)

Jordan 01-11-2007 12:56 PM

In AE I wish you could get into Vykker's Labs, it's very annoying in FeeCo Depot when you see that sign: VYKKER'S LABS COMING SOON

SligStorm 01-11-2007 02:35 PM

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In AE I wish you could get into Vykker's Labs, it's very annoying in FeeCo Depot when you see that sign: VYKKER'S LABS COMING SOON

Ye that would be cool.. It would probly look something like this on the other side..

Andrelvis 01-11-2007 03:05 PM

I liked those Vykker sprites... btw, can't you replace those drawn bombs, lightning, etc. with sprites copied from AO/AE? Btw, when I go to the link in your sig it gives me database error =/

SligStorm 01-11-2007 05:01 PM

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I liked those Vykker sprites... btw, can't you replace those drawn bombs, lightning, etc. with sprites copied from AO/AE? Btw, when I go to the link in your sig it gives me database error =/

Ye I know.. I messed up MySQL wile trying to get Oddworld: Shooter working onec.. Il fix it when i have the time.

Zerox 01-12-2007 03:07 AM

I'd have liked to have infinite grenades in all areas of the game of AO. I'd like blowing up Scrabs and all, but I'm not allowed.
Posession of Slogs, and a more complicated control as a result.
More crawling Sligs areas. There was only two, including the Dripik final area.
More Sligs controlling Slogs areas.
Elum in AE. May not have been possible, but we have PS2 now.
Meeches, since they presumably DO exist in small and isolated herds, plus some Mudokons presumably would have worshipped them.
Beating/shooting Fleeches with Sligs, Scrabs/Slogs/Paramites/Sligs=more possible combinations than were possible in the final game. (Scrab charges Greeter and kicks it flying, resulting in Greeter blowing up, or paramites attacking a Slogs, etc.)

aaj111 01-12-2007 07:16 AM

I wish you could see some Paramite vs Scrab action... But they say if that DID happen (like glitch or something) the game would freeze. lol...

I saw a picture of a Paramite in Stockyards... Where a Scrab was suppose to be, I think it was PS though... Either way, I wish they were in there too.

Jordan 01-12-2007 07:37 AM

Oh no... Not the whole Paramite Stockyards thing again... No one, I mean no one start asking about Paramites in the Stockyards! :fuzemb:
Paramite vs Scrab would be very freaky, I don't think they should meet at all, it's like the Mudanchee and Mudomo tribe joining into one, weird...

SligStorm 01-12-2007 07:43 AM

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I wish you could see some Paramite vs Scrab action... But they say if that DID happen (like glitch or something) the game would freeze. lol...

I saw a picture of a Paramite in Stockyards... Where a Scrab was suppose to be, I think it was PS though... Either way, I wish they were in there too.

lol if there were to be a scrab and a paramite together it would probebly do nothing... since that the game is not programed to do so... so basicly the paramite would not find the scrab as any threat and nether would the scrab find the paramamite as one...

That picture of the Paramite in Stockyards is not in the PS version.. Since I own AE and AO for both PC and PS... The reason I think its there beacuse some of those screenshots were old Ideas for the game.. It would have been much better and more realistic to the story to have Paramites AND Scrabs in the Stockyards..

snuzi 01-12-2007 07:53 AM

I always wanted to shoot scrabs and paramites in AO. I don't know why, I guess it would just be kinda cool, since it's one of the many things you can't do in that game.

aaj111 01-12-2007 10:55 AM

Sometimes I wish Abe was armed... I hate being cornered by a Scrab... It kinda makes me jump sometimes. :)

You have to kind of think about the stock yards too. I am sure there are multiple stock yards, that one was particularly for Scrabs probrably.

Jordan 01-13-2007 01:29 AM

Or Abe could have been in a certain part of the Stockyards, I'm sure they'd have Paramites in other cages that we don't see.

SligStorm 01-13-2007 04:51 AM

I think the reason for the scrabs being in the stockyards is beacuse it makes the strategy harder... you would have to have 2 paramites to make up for 1 scrab..

Jordan 01-13-2007 05:15 AM

Right, can we please stop talking about Paramites in the stockyards, I'm sorry but... There used to be a thread about it that I made, and I regret making it now, it was very annoying... :p

Arxryl 01-13-2007 09:33 AM

Something I'd've liked to see is an alternate ending. I mean, there is a good ending, and there is a bad ending, but what about a perfect ending, or a completely opposite movie. That would've been interesting.

SligStorm 01-13-2007 11:17 AM

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Something I'd've liked to see is an alternate ending. I mean, there is a good ending, and there is a bad ending, but what about a perfect ending, or a completely opposite movie. That would've been interesting.

Ye I thought the same thing too.

Bullet Magnet 01-13-2007 05:44 PM

Or a fence-sitter ending.

moxco 01-13-2007 06:00 PM

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I think the reason for the scrabs being in the stockyards is beacuse it makes the strategy harder... you would have to have 2 paramites to make up for 1 scrab..


How do you know that scabs are twice as strong?

aaj111 01-13-2007 06:06 PM

Because Scrabs attack on sight, where as Paramites will only attack if you corner them... and only if they are in packs.

skillya_glowi 01-15-2007 12:06 PM

Hey come on, people. Seriously. The entire uniqueness of the game is mostly in the fact that Abe is not armed, has nothing but his loincloth and chanting, and somehow has to make it through all of the shit OWI's pitted him against. If he were armed, gameplay wouldn't be as interesting. Same goes for possessing Paramites and Scrabs.

I agree though, it would have been very nice to see 4 separate ending movies...

And there are Paramites in cages you can't see...I said this in the Q&A thread one time, but if you listen very closely to the sounds in the Stockyards/Free-Fire Zone, not only will you hear Scrabs, but you will hear those Paramite-clickey sounds.

Jordan 01-15-2007 12:27 PM

You're right, Skillya, weapons would be shit for Abe...
I heard the Paramite sounds in the Stockyards, freaky...

Slaveless 01-15-2007 04:13 PM

I think I would like AE to have that same dark feeling that AO had. I mean, AE was challenging to some point, (espically without the QuikSave), but their wasn't that silent, there's-something-about-to-crawl-behind-your-back-and-kill-you feeling like in AO.

Bullet Magnet 01-16-2007 07:57 PM

I know what you mean... but it wasn't the gameplay that did that for me, it was the art, soundscape, and environment. And the story. I loved the humour, and the brightness of the game is fondly recalled, but I do want a return to the darkness of AO. Not the darkness of Fangus, Stranger or Siege. I want the spiritual "mudokon past" of AO. Necrum came close to that.

Maybe it was also a change in the technology, the replacement of the 3D render tool for the screens with the prop house, but the graininess of AO really gave it something.

skillya_glowi 01-17-2007 05:32 PM

That's exactly what I drone on about when explaining the difference between Abe's Oddysee and Abe's Exoddus to recent converts. But I really can't put it into words. AE didn't have the same Oddworld feeling that AO did. I'm not saying it's a bad game --- I agree that AE was absolutely brilliant, but this dark, spiritual, forbidding feeling that hung about the environments --- in AE that was completely lacking imo.

Xx_Abe_xX 02-09-2007 11:33 AM

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I think It would be cool if you can ride Scrabs and Paramites in the game

Highly unlikely because riding a scrab will make you dead. Paramites I'm not sure, but if it is made, don't ride up to another, or you will be dead.

Xavier 02-10-2007 04:30 AM

there's already the elum to ride, it should be enough :p