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Havoc 08-19-2010 01:06 PM

Because Lorne is the type of guy who thinks he can improve everything. He has some decent ideas but I agree with OANST that he's a little naive sometimes.

Still, we don't know half of what went on in the past 10 years. We don't know how many companies Lorne talked to, how much money is in their bank account, what their next projects are, how many people from the original team are still involved, etc.

Gilrod 08-19-2010 02:40 PM

To pitch in a bit about JAW...

We have a core team that work on all our titles, as either leads or directors, for the rest of the work we either hire freelance individuals or outsource ;-)

I hope that helps clear some stuff up about us.

Havoc 08-19-2010 03:12 PM

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To pitch in a bit about JAW...

We have a core team that work on all our titles, as either leads or directors, for the rest of the work we either hire freelance individuals or outsource ;-)

I hope that helps clear some stuff up about us.

Read: Yes, there are cinematics of some kind. And yes, we're outsourcing them.

Paradigm 08-19-2010 03:51 PM

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To pitch in a bit about JAW...

We have a core team that work on all our titles, as either leads or directors, for the rest of the work we either hire freelance individuals or outsource ;-)

I hope that helps clear some stuff up about us.

Long time lurker here, but have only just registered for the forum (hello everyone). Would just like to take this opportunity to say how thrilled I am about the forthcoming new Oddworld games. It's fantastic that you take time out to keep the members of this forum updated about the developments behind the scenes at JAW, your information is greatly appreciated I must say.

I've been a fan of the Oddworld franchise since it's inception, in fact I went out and purchased Abe's Oddysee the week it was released after being fascinated by one of the demos. I'm sure whatever you have planned for the future of the franchise will be brilliant, very best of luck to all involved (I'm sure you won't need it though!)

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Havoc 08-19-2010 05:42 PM

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It's fantastic that you take time out to keep the members of this forum updated about the developments behind the scenes at JAW, your information is greatly appreciated I must say.

I must have missed the part where he gave some decent info about the actual projects. You know, besides letting us know that they 'outsource certain stuffs, and keep in house other stuffs'.

Mac Sirloin 08-19-2010 06:53 PM

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I must have missed the part where he gave some decent info about the actual projects. You know, besides letting us know that they 'outsource certain stuffs, and keep in house other stuffs'.

"NO! YOU CAN'T APPRECIATE THAT OWI IS MAKING AN ATTEMPT AT KEEPING FANS INFORMED! YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE I SAY SO!"

Havoc is the worst Oddworld fan ever.

Daxter King 08-19-2010 08:28 PM

We should close this thread, as new Oddworld games are not coming.

Xavier 08-20-2010 12:26 AM

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We should close this thread, as new Oddworld games are not coming.

They are coming, it's just going to take a little while.

AvengingGibbons 08-20-2010 12:35 AM

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To pitch in a bit about JAW...

We have a core team that work on all our titles, as either leads or directors, for the rest of the work we either hire freelance individuals or outsource ;-)

I hope that helps clear some stuff up about us.

Does this sound like they have the original oddworld developers working on the games? Sounds like it to me :D

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 08-20-2010 01:07 AM

i hope so, the two first games were the best.

erwinraaben55 08-20-2010 02:47 AM

were???

They still ARE the best. Till no other Oddworld games comes out, they are still the masterpieces from OWI.

I hope the next games WILL surpass them, but I hardly doubt that (no disrespect to JAW), coz the first Odd impressions will always be carved in our hearts. I still favour them over ALOT of games nowadays.

Nate 08-20-2010 04:08 AM

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Does this sound like they have the original oddworld developers working on the games? Sounds like it to me :D

Define 'developers'. Do you mean Lorne & Sherry? Do you mean the game designers? Or do you mean the whole team including art department and programmers?

Because only the first one is true.

AvengingGibbons 08-20-2010 04:43 AM

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Define 'developers'. Do you mean Lorne & Sherry? Do you mean the game designers? Or do you mean the whole team including art department and programmers?

Because only the first one is true.

i meant the whole team really.. well, the ones who make the art. What would that wink be for then?

K100 08-20-2010 05:42 AM

An other sneak peak: http://twitpic.com/1qcuvx

MeechMunchie 08-20-2010 05:47 AM

Just Add Add Water presents:

Executive/Execution

OANST 08-20-2010 06:05 AM

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Read: Yes, there are cinematics of some kind. And yes, we're outsourcing them.

That's not what I get from that.

AvengingGibbons 08-20-2010 07:20 AM

"Just Add Water & OddMob"
"Productions"
"Executive Producer"

Daxter King 08-20-2010 09:05 AM

"Just Add Water Prays Executive Producer Lorne Lanning will actually work in the next 5 years"

Wil 08-20-2010 09:29 AM

But Sherry is the producer…

Paradigm 08-20-2010 12:30 PM

Hmm. In response to Mr Havoc...

OWI and JAW don't owe us anything. I'm sure they're both incredibly busy and don't have time to be sitting around on forums keeping a small minority of Oddworld fans informed about what's happening. But Stewart has kindly given us some additional information, it might not be much but I personally appreciate it. So there. :fuzwink:

Havoc 08-20-2010 01:29 PM

Never said I don't appreciate it. But so far the only things he told us are cryptic and vague at best. Then once he actually does confirm something in clear language and it's to deny they are involved in something.

Sorry if I seem unappreciative because of that, but being cryptically teased with info that should have gone public a month ago is starting to tick me off a little.

STM 08-21-2010 04:01 AM

I fell sorry for Gilray, he comes on with little bits of info and he sees pages of us slagging of the team, him, Lorne and others. XD (I'm just pissing about really guys)

erwinraaben55 08-21-2010 04:46 AM

That is his own fault. If he didn't announce anything yet BEFORE he had actual real info, this wouldn't have happened. Now he is just feeding us with little somethings or actually nothings all the time.

If you let a hungry shark smell blood, you can't scare it away until he actually had some to eat!

Until now we are all still hungry for at least SOMETHING.

Fatherbrain30 08-21-2010 08:27 AM

They really need to finish Abe's story, Munch only had one game and even he had more closure than Abe did.

Paradigm 08-21-2010 08:31 AM

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Never said I don't appreciate it. But so far the only things he told us are cryptic and vague at best. Then once he actually does confirm something in clear language and it's to deny they are involved in something.

Sorry if I seem unappreciative because of that, but being cryptically teased with info that should have gone public a month ago is starting to tick me off a little.

Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying your feelings on the matter.

Rayrockslots 08-21-2010 10:45 PM

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This is great news! You know what else was great news? Citizen Siege......think about that. Then immediately forget it. Then when it doesn't happen I can pull you back to this post and say "I told you so!". But if it does happen then you'll still have forgotten about this post and i'll be happy it did happen and happy that nobody tells me and wrong.

It's the perfect plan :D

I hate being right all the time :fuzsad:

Havoc 08-21-2010 10:51 PM

Citizen Siege is project that can take another 5 to 10 years before even see it in the theaters. Hardly anything to compare the production of a small video game to.

Xavier 08-22-2010 03:50 AM

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That is his own fault. If he didn't announce anything yet BEFORE he had actual real info, this wouldn't have happened. Now he is just feeding us with little somethings or actually nothings all the time.

Not really his fault someone higher in the hierarchy decided to cancel the announcement days before it actually took place. He was just excited to share it to us and began the teasing and now he has to wait too.

Fatherbrain30 08-22-2010 05:41 PM

It's ridiculous, it's almost September.

GABBITS OWN 08-22-2010 11:43 PM

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It's ridiculous, it's almost September.

Yer, I thought it would come in july, I was wrong.

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 08-23-2010 01:55 AM

yes, you were, now look down in shame.

on topic: to be honest, i think it could be at least another year before we get anything from oddmobb.

Crashpunk 08-23-2010 01:57 AM

Agreed. We need more Abe Sidescrollers, I would love to see another hero in that style of gameplay (eg Munch)

STM 08-23-2010 02:55 AM

I don't think it would work, too many creatures, not enough screen room. No one wants a sidescroller any more, recently, I have only ever been pleased by one platformer and that's watching LIMBO.

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 08-23-2010 03:26 AM

yeah, look how well that did, besides, oddmobb have the money for a short side-scroller, they'll have to start crapping money to make a 3d, co-op, amazing graphics and effects game.

jmchandler 08-23-2010 12:13 PM

I am still REAL confused!!!! Has Anyone actually said that there is a new Oddworld game coming out.. We just keep getting hints of "An announcement" and "we want to tell you something but we can't?.... This article from just 4 months ago says that lorne is not planning a 5th game, "a fifth game in the series is currently not the top priority for his company... so we're working on some other things that we'll be announcing shortly."

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/70...C-In-2010.html

I know that this article has been discussed, but we seem to ignore the fact that it really seems to say that NO NEW GAMES ARE IN THE WORKS. But what does it mean? Why are we being put off? If there is a game in the works, or something else, What could it possible hurt to let us devoted fans know what is going on? Surely nothing is finished yet. They wouldn't wait until something is about to be released before announcing it.....Would they? I am aware that JAW is now involved and that they are a game developing company, but if they have been talking to lorne lanning for over a year now, why would he declare in late April of this year that no games are planned? By letting us know, we who check the damned Oddworld Website at least 10 times a day, would be a great comfort to us as well as great PR !!

Wil 08-23-2010 12:49 PM

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Has Anyone actually said that there is a new Oddworld game coming out.

Actually, the term that's been used is "projects". No one at OWI or JAW has explicitly said "new game". Stewart Gilray has said they're working on "games" and hinted at the size, 2D/3Dness and release platforms of them, and from context they're definitely Oddworld games, and he's never denied they're new games... but still.

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What could it possible hurt to let us devoted fans know what is going on?

Like they let us know they were working on Hand of Odd? And Fangus? And Citizen Siege? Like they let us know all about the revolutionary gameplay and complex story of Munch's Oddysee? Lorne has learnt numerous times what it can hurt to let us devoted fans know what's going on too early.

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I am aware that JAW is now involved and that they are a game developing company, but if they have been talking to lorne lanning for over a year now, why would he declare in late April of this year that no games are planned?

JAW initially started that year of working with OWI by helping them find things in their extensive archives. New projects may only have become a certainty after April.

jmchandler 08-23-2010 01:07 PM

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Actually, the term that's been used is "projects". No one at OWI or JAW has explicitly said "new game". Stewart Gilray has said they're working on "games" and hinted at the size, 2D/3Dness and release platforms of them, and from context they're definitely Oddworld games, and he's never denied they're new games... but still.

Yea, a small amount of doubt there, huh.

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Like they let us know they were working on Hand of Odd? And Fangus? And Citizen Siege? Like they let us know all about the revolutionary gameplay and complex story of Munch's Oddysee? Lorne has learnt numerous times what it can hurt to let us devoted fans know what's going on too early.

But now we know something is going on. What difference does it make whether or not there is a name to it? We will still have the same reaction to a let down. They should give us a name.

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JAW initially started that year of working with OWI by helping them find things in their extensive archives. New projects may only have become a certainty after April.

Good Point, I will stay excited about a new game.

Wil 08-23-2010 01:58 PM

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But now we know something is going on. What difference does it make whether or not there is a name to it? We will still have the same reaction to a let down. They should give us a name.

There are several projects. Do you want them all identified? What if half of them are then cancelled, but we still see several projects? That's 50% disappointment even though several projects were released.

I honestly don't see the urgency in finding out what they are. Understandably we're all curious, and of course we're all excited, but we're already looking forward to what's coming next, whether we know what it is or not. The press has already shown a huge reaction to the news that JAW are working on something, so when the time comes that OWI want an announcement made, they know it will be reported widely and vigorously.

Until that time, what do they gain exactly by clueing us in? Every single detail revealed is a chance to disappoint, every micro-announcement a distraction from production and carefully crafted PR scheduling. We seem to have ended up in a world where a tweet can be considered an acceptable canvas size for news, where each new episode name and microplotpoint is something to be waited for with baited breath.

Think about the initial JAW announcement another way: It wasn't announcing projects, it was announcing a partnership. Comparable to the time between the release of MO and the reveal of SW, we're currently in a place where we know who are making the games, but not what those games are. If, a few months before Stranger was first announced, we'd been shown a press release saying "Oddworld Inhabitants are making their next game" we'd have gone "Yeah... And?"

jmchandler 08-23-2010 02:48 PM

Your right of course, Max. I need to just take a deep breath and be patient.

crimsonxking 08-23-2010 03:27 PM

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No one wants a sidescroller any more, recently, I have only ever been pleased by one platformer and that's watching LIMBO.

Bullshit. A LOT of people love and want more sidescrollers, myself included. They are coming back in huge numbers too. From the PSN and XBA stuff like Limbo, Braid, Scott Pilgrim, ect. To the medium-sized stand-alone titles like Lost in Shadow (can't wait for that myself), to the revival of the old sidescrolling giants. Mario has been doing well with the New Super Mario Brothers games, and I am sure Epic Kirby and Donkey Kong Country returns will do decent as well.

When it comes to Oddworld, I see a lot of people saying they want it to return to 2D.

You speak only for yourself, so don't pretend otherwise.