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Dino 07-27-2005 10:37 PM

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Wow, practically a whole post in response to a mere remark. This makes me even more adament that you're not who you say.

Meh, to be honest I'd been bottling all that up for ages, and it was just the straw that broke the camel's back rather than an overreaction to what you said. Sorry I was out of line there, should've kicked a tree or something.

Hobo 07-28-2005 03:26 AM

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And he did that wearing a WINTER jacket.

It is't that usual for asian migrants to do that though, the week after the bombings i was at an R.E.M. cocert in hyde park,, and i was convinced the Islamic gent infront of me was a suicide bomber, big jacket, myseterious bags, no real interest in the music. But it turned out he was taking his daughter. Still, god knows why they wear the bloody coats.

Coolmanbizkit 07-28-2005 03:32 PM

There must have been more bombers, Or the first bombers died by mistake. Because 16 nail bombs were found in thier hired car but they werent set to go off. So they must of died by mistake or theres more to thier 'group'.

Dino 07-28-2005 05:48 PM

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It is't that usual for asian migrants to do that though, the week after the bombings i was at an R.E.M. cocert in hyde park,, and i was convinced the Islamic gent infront of me was a suicide bomber, big jacket, myseterious bags, no real interest in the music. But it turned out he was taking his daughter. Still, god knows why they wear the bloody coats.

Stupid Asians!

Uh I mean...

Wasn't this guy Brazilian?

Hobo 07-29-2005 04:09 AM

Yeah, you're right. My bad. Apologies.

Facsimile 07-30-2005 12:04 AM

I think it's very likely that there are more than a few terrorists in London...

Dino 07-30-2005 12:19 AM

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I think it's very likely that there are more than a few terrorists in London...

Someone's on the ball today. Yes one would think so wouldn't one?

I wonder how many the police REALLY know about...

MojoMan220 08-19-2005 03:59 PM

Update:

I was skimming through the paper today and noticed a somewhat shocking article concerning the unlucky Brazilian fellow who was shot and killed by undercover officers in a London subway train. According to a leaked report, the guy was not wearing a heavy jacket and did not jump the ticket gate as previously claimed. The only running he did was when he rushed to catch the train. Also, witness accounts in the report said the man was seated before he was shot. Despite these new developments, what was said by the officers and the man remain unclear.

Frankly, I have no idea what to think anymore. There's far to many elements that don't connect.

Shrink 08-19-2005 04:04 PM

That leaked report has been on the news a lot recently.
If that is true, why ever did the police kill him? It's not like the police kill many people - they don't normally carry guns here, so why kill him without good reason?
I really don't understand why they did it, unless, even though he apparently looked innocent, they thought he was going to blow up the train he entered.

Beavis Core 08-19-2005 04:27 PM

My dad worked it out on his GPS (it's pretty f'ing accurate) and I live just about 13 miles from where the bombs went off. Y'know, in a world that's thousands upon thousnads of miles wide, to think I was only 13 miles from a terrorist explosion is pretty unnerving. A bus was stopped just down the street from me because of an unattended bag, the other week. The police blocked off the road, cleared the area, and investigated. It was a false alarm, but I was amazed with how well they did their jobs.

The police are the authority here, they are here to protect us. We are bound by law to follow any reasonable, lawful request a policeman gives us. Like, say, if I jumped the ticket machine at a train station, and they told me to stop for example. They're doing their jobs, protecting us. The guy was an idiot and tried to run, therefore disobeying a law, and making himself a terrorist suspect. The officers in question were faced with a dialemma. Shoot the suspect, and have 1 casualty, or not shoot him, and, assuming he WAS a terrorist, give him an opportunity to detonate a bomb, killing tens, maybe hundreds of people. I ask you all, in that position, what would you do.

Truthfully, although I'd not be glad to take a life, would not hesitate to pound the guy with lead. All he'd need to do if he had a bomb was reach over and yank a cord or something and that would be it. If you give them that opportunity, you're not doing your job.

As has been mentioned, better that those officers get a few complaints, than if a bomb went off and the whole police force was critisized for allowing it to happen. It's not a shoot to kill policy, as the police have stated, but a shoot to protect policy. By shooting that man, they eliminated a risk. The guy was innocent, but he was a total dumbarse and look where it got him...

MojoMan220 08-19-2005 05:26 PM

Did you even read the previous posts? We've already gone through all that. New information has been presented that contradicts previous claims. By the way, why do people keep giving detailed descriptions of what a police officer's job entails? Obviously they are their to protect the people! The question is: Did they go too far in this particular situation?

used:) 08-19-2005 05:31 PM

Meh, I think this thread is dead. Might as well wait for a new contreversial issue to pop up ijn this ****ed up world of ours.

Kimon 08-19-2005 05:31 PM

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The police are the authority here, they are here to protect us. We are bound by law to follow any reasonable, lawful request a policeman gives us. Like, say, if I jumped the ticket machine at a train station, and they told me to stop for example. They're doing their jobs, protecting us. The guy was an idiot and tried to run, therefore disobeying a law, and making himself a terrorist suspect. The officers in question were faced with a dialemma. Shoot the suspect, and have 1 casualty, or not shoot him, and, assuming he WAS a terrorist, give him an opportunity to detonate a bomb, killing tens, maybe hundreds of people. I ask you all, in that position, what would you do.

Read the posts before your own.

Supposedly, the guy didn't jump a ticket machine, and he was only running to catch the train. Seemingly innocent. And even if he wasn't innocent, they could've just taken the guy off of the train and evacuated the area.

By the way, does anyone know if any expolsives were found on the guys body? Any proof that he was a terrorist at all?

Shrink 08-19-2005 05:57 PM

He was innocent. No explosives, and no disclosed evidence of anything to warrant a shooting.
They obviously had reasons for their suspicion, though.

Jacob 08-20-2005 01:56 AM

One mistake. Meh. I think it's getting far too much publicity, and as for his parental units saying the Police in question should be jailed, they should stay out of it. Tossers.

Yes, it was bad. Boo-hoo. But get over it. If one civilian had to be killed every month in the hopes of stopping London being bombed again, i wouldn't mind.

Then again, my morals are quite questionable. Meh.