STM, know respect, please.

Varrok, you are giving a way too narrow viewpoint to make it weigh.

Abe619, marry me.

Can he really marry you and not get punished, anyway?

Unless he is Saudi or ISIS.

Or I can go Mukhannatun.

And be castrated?

I am non-binary, not a big problem.

It's a gender. Castation is about sex. You don't castrate a gender.

Exactly.

So you don't mind your genitals being mutilated?

I do not if I need to.

By the way. A Saudi person after leaving Saudi Arabia is no longer controlled by the moral police after a certain period.

Oh, that's sooooooooo kind of them. Such human rights.

Wonderful.

People choose. I know some Muslims who left to nearby lands from Saudi, because they wanted more freedom. Now they live happily.

Yeah. They're so wonderful. I wonder why people ever want to migrate here from Islam-ruled countries.

Also: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ms-latest.html

Abe619 is as slippery as an eel.

The migration to Europe is mostly caused by the politics of European countries, who advertise Europe because the local population is becoming older.

The mixing of races is inevitable.

I see that you are trying to justify your negativity using holy mass media articles.

I just want to justify my previous point that I could find a new article(s) about Muslims causing problems in Europe each day. I couldn't find new articles about Atheists causing problems because they're Aheists.

My god, Xorlidyr is supposed to be Ukrainian...

Your god?

Seriously, Ukrainians aren't known to be politically correct.

That's what I've been trying to say since this thread started, this has NOTHING to do with religion, the only difference between "Bad" people who have a religion and "Bad" atheist people, is that atheist terrorists can't use religion as an excuse.

The people shouting "Allahu Akbar", then blowing themselves up get my attention as people who wish to die for their religion. It's got nothing to do with sadism. Sadism doesn't involve killing yourself.

Abe619, for the muslims, the West is called 'dar al-harab' (= house of war). Also, Erdogan has said "there are no moderate islam".

Sadism by itself doesn't, but again, this is sadism using religion as an excuse.

Edit: @Vlam: Since when? when did we ever all agree that "Okay guys, we're just gonna all start calling the west Dar al-Harb"? I must have missed the mass meeting where we did.

And excuse to what, blow themselves up? Who WANTS to blow themselves up, out of the pure joy of BLOWING THEMSELVES UP?

It's not out of the pure joy of blowing themselves up, it's because of the desire to kill, it's not like the person blowing themselves up are the only ones to die when they do.

I hope you're joking, and not trying to tell me that these people just want to kill people more than to be alive, and it has nothing to do with religion.

Of course it's in part down to their religion, but as I've said repeatedly: any ideology can be contorted to make people do the bidding of those in power. The Japanese had Kamikaze and seppuku. The Red Army had the Barrier Troops. If you want people to die for you, you just need to convince them that they're doing it for a good reason.

They blow themselves up because 1. they think they are doing the right thing. 2. Many virgins as gifts, etc.

And consider the situation when you are powerless but unstoppably hate some people with all your heart.
You are given two opportunities:
- shoot them with much weaker weapons;
- blow them up with yourself.

I think this one is not really ambigous.


Furthermore, your hatred on religions is not wise. It puts you on the same level as any priest who hates atheists.

GISHY. Hating religion does not equal hating religious people. In fact, that's more akin to Islam. The fact that you can sit there and say that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism nowadays blows my fucking mind.

You people are fucking ridiculous. It's like arguing with a creationist.

ALLAHU VLAMBAR!
-blows this thread the fuck up-

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I just remembered why we all hated Gishy!

Because he was overly snarky and trolling. He's not trolling now. Also, that counts as an ad hominem, Havok.

Actually, my dad freely admits (in private) that he doesn't believe in god, yet practices Judaism religiously and openly judges people who don't practice up to the level that he expects.

But he's an outlier and should probably be ignored by everyone, including me. :p

That's not the most compelling argument, though. The media have found a story that their readers find compelling, and they repeat that story whenever they can. Selection bias out the wazoo.

As compared to the people in this thread who are saying (or at least strongly implying) that terrorism only has to do with Islam. Take a chillpill, then a nuanced opinion.

It's not the most compelling argument, I agree. But what can I do? I don't hide any Atheist Terrorist Group news from you, even though their existence might not be in favor of my argument. I seriously never heard of any. The only one I heard of were the ones STM linked, and those news were of little credibility.

I don't think media choose to omit the information about any of those, if they exist, either.

Are you truly sure that all of the Muslim Terrorism news are of such great credibility, too?

What are the reasons that mass media hides Atheist terrorism?

Why do some powerful countries like to comment on such news first?

Who stands behind?

I was responding more directly to your use of the phrase 'causing problems' and had forgotten that the link you posted was specifically about terrorism. There are a shitload of stories out at the moment implying that Muslim people are the cause of every social ill in Europe at the moment and most of them are bullshit.

You can't deny photos of dead people and videos of blowing up.

They're not. That would make a great news, and would fit the government propaganda.

If the media do any hiding, it's the goverment media of countries like Sweden and Germany which avoid as hell talking bad about the immigrants.

What do you mean?

Nobody, I'm the only person in the room

And France.

You can fake photos.

I see that you do not fully see the significance and power of Atheism. Once media focuses on it, the fight shall shift to Religious vs Atheists instead of the World vs Islam (which is less convenient for some strong countries).

Sweden is cosmopolitan. Germany needs immigrants like money.


Trolling me is fun, I love when you do it.


Until we see a political/societial/psychological situation from the perspective of all sides, our viewpoint remains narrow, counterproductive and destructive.

Google "Brussel Attack Video". Do you think all of these videos are fake?

Even more reasons for goverment media to search for such groups. And yet they got nothing.

Why do you think they do?

Vlam's right. France does play a part in a media cover up. Are you sure you're not the one trolling?

No, but at this present time, terrorism is mostly to do with Islam and that is kind of unarguable.

America has it like that already. Reporting on Islamic terrorism isn't exactly government propaganda when Islam is already against the rest of the world.

Maybe because it doesn't fucking happen? The media is ran by old people who generally hate atheists as much as American conservatives do, if there was ANY atheistic terrorism they'd be on that shit straight away. It'd be the story of the week.

Also you seemed to have missed the fact that 99% of the time terrorism is the work of religion. Even if it's Muslims most of the time, what about the IRA? I can't think of any atheistic terrorist organizations.