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Manco 03-19-2016 04:01 PM

My understanding is that Glukkons, Oktigi and Gloktigi are all from the Octigi family of species, with Gloktigi being of animalistic intelligence and Glukkons/Oktigi being sentient.

Sekto keeping Gloktigi as pets could be compared to a human keeping monkeys as pets, and some of the Gloktigi seen in SW were cybernetically enhanced by Sekto. Interestingly though, some of the concept art seems to show them wearing some kind of suit-like clothing, although this might just be decoration (in the same way a jerk might dress their pet monkey in a costume).

The only reference I can find of Gloktigi being Glukkon/Oktigi hybrids is an uncited footnote on the Oddworld wiki, so take that with a grain of salt until someone else can back it up with a reference.

FennecFyre 03-19-2016 04:04 PM

Yeah, I sort of thought Sekto's gloktigi might essentially function as guard dogs. Big, ugly guard dogs that go SKREEEEE and spit goop.

STM 03-19-2016 04:23 PM

Lorne did say that the reason they can teleport is due to occultism too. So maybe Sekto knows a little of the dark arts.

FennecFyre 03-19-2016 04:27 PM

An evil octopus dude with magic?

Sekto is Cthulhu's cousin confirmed.

Manco 03-19-2016 05:11 PM

Was that ever given as an explanation explicitly for Gloktigi teleportation though? I know Lorne has said the Glukkons practised occultism at one point in their history (before shunning religion and turning to technology), but I don’t recall ever hearing that being applied for the Gloktigi specifically.

Wil 03-19-2016 05:49 PM

Glukkons and Oktigi are closely related, but Oktigi are not a superspecies. Biologically, Gloktigi are a hybrid of the two, deliberately created as elite guards. They're intelligent, but so egotistical that they never speak to other species, and so violent that they often can't control their demonic frenzy. All the same they are highly trained and loyal to the death.

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Nathan: (from Leonardo Munzlinger) In Stranger, how do the Gloktigi disappear and reappear; is it technology or mystical?

Lorne: That would be occultism. [...] The Gloktigi have supernatural origins, more like genies in the classical Arabian sense. Concocted and controlled, like summoning demons. They’re sort of genetics mixed with occultism.
http://oddworldlibrary.net/blog/nath...lanning-again/

FennecFyre 03-19-2016 06:28 PM

Innnnteresting. How long has this Gloktigi-engineering/summoning project been going on, who started it, and would a starving glok be likely to be more vicious and mindless than a well-fed one?

-casually taking notes for her fancomic-

Nepsotic 03-19-2016 06:44 PM

I'd like to know more about this:

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Nathan: Sometimes when you play Abe’s Oddysee and you get to the end, it will actually say that you’ve saved more than 99 Mudokons. Are there more than 99 in the game, or is that a bug?

Lorne: That’s a great question, because that was something we were debating a lot at the end; how could this anomaly occur? We were having this debate – and I don’t remember specifically what the outcome was – which was that some people said “No, if I’m told this is the number, I don’t want to be lied to”, while others said “Yeah, but how do we know that the people who went the extra mile and even saved ones they weren’t supposed to and didn’t even know they existed – they’re the really special ones”. There was debate over that and they snuck some in, in really hard to find places. I’m not sure, it might have been two? Or a few?

Do we actually know if this is true or where they are? I don't remember this ever being resolved.

Nate 03-19-2016 07:31 PM

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Do we actually know if this is true or where they are? I don't remember this ever being resolved.

Never resolved. I mean, I was talking to Lorne and was confused at the time. Shoulda followed up on it.

kjjcarpenter 03-19-2016 10:13 PM

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Sekto keeping Gloktigi as pets could be compared to a human keeping monkeys as pets, and some of the Gloktigi seen in SW were cybernetically enhanced by Sekto.

The only reference I can find of Gloktigi being Glukkon/Oktigi hybrids is an uncited footnote on the Oddworld wiki, so take that with a grain of salt until someone else can back it up with a reference.

My fiancé always thought the Gloktigi were Sekto's children, going off the whole hybrid explanation.

Manco 03-20-2016 12:38 AM

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Do we actually know if this is true or where they are? I don't remember this ever being resolved.

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Never resolved. I mean, I was talking to Lorne and was confused at the time. Shoulda followed up on it.

I thought this was resolved as being a bug in the game, where visiting the secret areas in the temples would reset the Mudokons working there and allowing you to rescue them multiple times?

Vlam 03-20-2016 02:54 AM

Wil, in NnT, who are the "two new sort-of-characters"?

scorptatious 03-20-2016 07:09 AM

Speaking of Sekto, I wonder, is he the one actually talking, or is he talking through the Old Steef he's controlling the entire game?

Wil 03-20-2016 07:11 AM

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My fiancé always thought the Gloktigi were Sekto's children, going off the whole hybrid explanation.

Sekto is almost certainly not high up enough in Oktigi ranks to father Gloktigi.

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Wil, in NnT, who are the "two new sort-of-characters"?

NFI

Vlam 03-20-2016 07:17 AM

So it was a joke? Is OWI_Alex responsible for it?

Wil 03-20-2016 07:48 AM

No, I just don't know the answer. Also, why would Alex be responsible for what Matt Glanville said?

Vlam 03-20-2016 07:58 AM

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No, I just don't know the answer. Also, why would Alex be responsible for what Matt Glanville said?

Well, you do know everything there is to know about Oddworld...

kjjcarpenter 03-20-2016 09:26 AM

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Sekto is almost certainly not high up enough in Oktigi ranks to father Gloktigi.

Interesting. Although now I have to explain to my fiancé that her theory was wrong, so I kind of wish I hadn't offered it on a platter. :p

Vlam 03-20-2016 09:34 AM

Who has gave birth to those Gloktigi?

Wil 03-20-2016 10:35 AM

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Well, you do know everything there is to know about Oddworld...

And now I've proved that wrong, mwahaha.

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Interesting. Although now I have to explain to my fiancé that her theory was wrong, so I kind of wish I hadn't offered it on a platter. :p

Maybe he's the one fitting them with cybernetics. That way you could view him as their creator. Iunno, just trying to compromise. :P

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Who has gave birth to those Gloktigi?

Gluk queens.

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I thought this was resolved as being a bug in the game, where visiting the secret areas in the temples would reset the Mudokons working there and allowing you to rescue them multiple times?

Something like that is definitely possible in Exoddus, but I think the Oddysee issue is just a bug in the counter. There are walkthroughs that number the rescuable Muds, and there are definitely only 99.

Vlam 03-20-2016 11:31 AM

Thank you, Wil!

Manco 03-20-2016 03:52 PM

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Something like that is definitely possible in Exoddus, but I think the Oddysee issue is just a bug in the counter. There are walkthroughs that number the rescuable Muds, and there are definitely only 99.

There are definitely only 99, but I’m positive that it’s possible to rescue some of them multiple times if you revisit the areas they’re hidden in.

Specifically, in the temples, where you can enter one of the trials, visit the secret area and rescue the Mudokons, then exit the trial without lighting the flint lock. When you re-enter that trial, the secret area has reset, so you can rescue the Mudokons again and add extra Mudokons to the counter.

I don’t think that’s as easy to do in Exoddus as the vault doors always lock behind you as soon as you enter them.

Wil 03-20-2016 04:41 PM

Yeah, that makes sense.

Vlam 03-21-2016 12:00 AM

Wil, in SoulStorm, will Abe lead 300 muds across the desert? Thank you.

You are the new Alf.

Havoc 03-21-2016 12:02 AM

Speaking of Alf, I've always wondered if Wil ever wrote any of the Dear Alf posts while he worked for OWI. And if not, does he know who writes them?

Varrok 03-21-2016 12:06 AM

Alf wrote them.

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Nah, I think it's Will for sure

Vlam 03-21-2016 12:07 AM

The masses think it's Lanning.

kjjcarpenter 03-21-2016 12:42 AM

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Speaking of Alf, I've always wondered if Wil ever wrote any of the Dear Alf posts while he worked for OWI. And if not, does he know who writes them?

Was the past-tense intentional?

Havoc 03-21-2016 12:44 AM

Yes, because he doesn't work there anymore.

Vlam 03-21-2016 12:53 AM

Wil doesn't work for OWI anymore?

Varrok 03-21-2016 01:21 AM

Well, he still has the OWI title.

Jordan 03-21-2016 03:10 AM

He enjoys the power.

Crashpunk 03-21-2016 05:10 AM

Would you wanna remove that title?

:(

Varrok 03-21-2016 05:12 AM

We don't trust you anymore, Wil! We demand to know the truth. All we want is the truth!

Wil 03-21-2016 07:50 AM

I don't work for OWI any more.

Vlam 03-21-2016 08:11 AM

Why, if you don't mind my asking?

Holy Sock 03-21-2016 08:14 AM

I honestly hope it was an amicable parting of ways. I don't know you at all, Wil but the idea that one of Oddworld's biggest fans gets hired by OWI then finds out they're a bunch of assholes or gets fired for whatever reasons kills what little childlike optimism I have left inside. Cause that would suck.

Nepsotic 03-21-2016 08:31 AM

I'd assume it's the same reason that JAW and OWI split.

Wil 03-21-2016 09:58 AM

I'm not going to go into the details, but:
  • It was an amicable split. There's no hard feelings either way.
  • It was due to circumstances at my end, nothing to do with the way they were treating me.
  • It's nothing to do with JAW. I'd already left JAW long before to work for OWI directly.

Varrok 03-21-2016 12:22 PM

Speak the truth, Wil! IF THAT'S EVEN YOUR REAL NAME

Or is it... Max?!

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Oh wait. You just spoke the truth nvm