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lismati 11-23-2010 10:44 AM

If you release a paid version I will buy it. I want to beta-test for you, but my programming skills are only HTML.

STM 11-23-2010 10:44 AM

Yeh you should do a Dev diary, that would be great. And I don't think you work slow, I think you work with great precision and care, if I'm honest, this is the best piece of amateur gaming I have ever seen in my whole life. And I don't like saying nice things so yeh!

EDIT: Lismati, nOWtun cannot distribute his work for monetary gain because it infringes on Oddworld's copyright.

nowtun 11-23-2010 10:55 AM

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If you release a paid version I will buy it. I want to beta-test for you, but my programming skills are only HTML.

This game will be a free download for STM's reasons..........unless I can get licenced by Oddworld lol

[QUOTE=Scrabtrapman;472644]Yeh you should do a Dev diary, that would be great. And I don't think you work slow, I think you work with great precision and care, if I'm honest, this is the best piece of amateur gaming I have ever seen in my whole life. And I don't like saying nice things so yeh!

Thanks man :D

STM 11-23-2010 11:11 AM

You could ask Nowtun, but i'd wait until game completion.

nowtun 11-23-2010 12:26 PM

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You could ask Nowtun, but i'd wait until game completion.

Yeah wouldnt ask until I have something to show.

EDIT: Here's the link for the river test that works lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFIFsV1yRAw

RyuuFox 11-23-2010 01:16 PM

AWESOME!!!! Looks so realistic!!!!:fuzgrin:

nowtun 11-25-2010 08:52 AM

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AWESOME!!!! Looks so realistic!!!!:fuzgrin:

thanks man, its gettin there, just need to work on the river now

STM 11-25-2010 10:39 AM

Oh dear Nowtun, I'm wetting myself waiting for a release now, things are getting worse!!! XD

RaulTavares 11-25-2010 10:42 AM

I was wondering... does anyone of you have the Art of the game? If someone had it and scan it down it would be easier to model the characters and rig them...

By the way nowtun, you're doing all the animation inside Lightwave? Man, I've been through maya, 3ds max, lightwave, but I can't seem to like any other than blender... It just does everyting with professional results and you don't have to pay for it...Hmm..anyway, would you like some hand on the modeling and detailing?

P.S. Do you know an application called camtasia? It records you in your workflow on windows, or any application. It would be cool to see you do some stuff on lightwave ;) Could go into the bonus stuff latter on!

nowtun 11-25-2010 10:59 AM

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Oh dear Nowtun, I'm wetting myself waiting for a release now, things are getting worse!!! XD

I know STM lol help me find a programmer then lol and It would near enough ready to go.

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I was wondering... does anyone of you have the Art of the game? If someone had it and scan it down it would be easier to model the characters and rig them...

By the way nowtun, you're doing all the animation inside Lightwave? Man, I've been through maya, 3ds max, lightwave, but I can't seem to like any other than blender... It just does everyting with professional results and you don't have to pay for it...Hmm..anyway, would you like some hand on the modeling and detailing?

P.S. Do you know an application called camtasia? It records you in your workflow on windows, or any application. It would be cool to see you do some stuff on lightwave ;) Could go into the bonus stuff latter on!

Yeah I have the book and am working from it but put my own spin on things. Yeah everything is done in lightwave modeling and animating. I tried out 3D max and Maya a couple of years ago and couldn't stand them I prefer the modeling and animation split like in lightwave. I recently tried blender to UV unwrap abe but couldn't get on with it at all.

Have you got any work that I can see.....maybe you could post it on here?

I haven't heard of camtasia but think this could be a cool idea to go in some bonus stuff later and will look into this. depending on whether you can stop start the filming as i do my work in split sessions Thanks man.

STM 11-25-2010 11:03 AM

Hmm, Nowtun I may be able to help you look, do you need a general free lance programmer?

nowtun 11-25-2010 11:18 AM

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Hmm, Nowtun I may be able to help you look, do you need a general free lance programmer?

I don't need a free lance programmer .....I just need a free programmer. lol

Thanks STM

STM 11-25-2010 11:21 AM

What would he have to programme in? C+? Java script?

nowtun 11-25-2010 11:23 AM

Anything lightwave compatable

AvengingGibbons 11-25-2010 11:31 AM

Is there anything I can do, or try, nowtun? I want to see how capable I am at texturing, but not the mapping part, just the part where you paint the texture in image creation software, like photoshop. I've got photoshop, and 3dsmax. Would like to try painting the texture for a character, or something similar, not something like a tree, or ground texture.

Good work on the paramonia scenery btw :D

nowtun 11-25-2010 11:38 AM

Thanks AG I do have something you could try for me. How about having a go at making the cloth for the Elum signs in Paramonia???

AvengingGibbons 11-25-2010 01:34 PM

http://i54.tinypic.com/ofbuye.png

Nowtun, I tried modelling it :D... I could probably start it again, and do it better.. is it decent?

STM 11-25-2010 01:35 PM

Yo Nowtun I did some digging for you and there's a hunk of AO / AE void and new and specifically fan related copyright that might apply, I'll post it below tomorrow after my commemoration service down at the SCD church

nowtun 11-25-2010 02:37 PM

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http://i54.tinypic.com/ofbuye.png

Nowtun, I tried modelling it :D... I could probably start it again, and do it better.. is it decent?

Looks good...How many polygons does it have? I'm only asking because paramonia one path has been a bitch for poly count.

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Yo Nowtun I did some digging for you and there's a hunk of AO / AE void and new and specifically fan related copyright that might apply, I'll post it below tomorrow after my commemoration service down at the SCD church

Sounds good to me man...look forward to seeing it tomorrow.

Thanks both

RyuuFox 11-25-2010 02:50 PM

Nice one Gibbs :D I would of use the cloth modifier then bring it it into reactor to have that sorta wrinkle up folding, but the would have a LOT of polys in it though. Good job both of you!

Leto 11-25-2010 03:18 PM

this is an ambitious project, that's actually in progress.

good job man.

ziggy 11-25-2010 03:45 PM

This is very impressive nowtun! Sell me a copy when this is completed.

AvengingGibbons 11-25-2010 04:14 PM

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Looks good...How many polygons does it have? I'm only asking because paramonia one path has been a bitch for poly count.

atm, it has 74 faces, as it is in the image i posted. So, if i was to finish the cloth, it would have around 120 faces, roughly.. Just for the cloth.. How many faces do you recomend? I shall try and reduce the face count anyway, BUT, how many face would you have originally recommended for the cloth piece?

nowtun 11-26-2010 04:02 AM

here is a frame of my old vesion of the sign (this one is not going to be used now as it was crapply done lol, did even have UVs, thats why none of h texture follows the durve of the object). it has a total of 1567 tris and the cloth itself has 64 tris but to be honest hasnt been shapped right. so i'd say your poly count is pretty good.

since I already have a UV?texture already done for the wooden poles, you wont need to make them, I'll build up the frame for the sign then you can fit the cloth in to fit?

STM 11-26-2010 05:05 AM

Hey sorry to but in however there is something I need to bring to your attention about copyright Nowtun,

You see OWI states very little as far as I can see about copying Abe's Odysee, in the PS1 game pamphlet at the back it simply says that copies should not be made but, what I think is a revision comes out in Abe's Exoddus, basically it talks about editors and the sort allowing for modification so long as there is no monetary profit made from the new altered version. I feel that the remake that you have constructed is perfectly legal but in the title screen, you must write the following:

THIS GAME IS IN NO WAY ENDORSED BY EITHER GT INTERACTIVE OR ODDWORLD INHABITANTS, THIS GAME MAY NOT BE SOLD NOR MAY COPIES BE MADE FROM YOUR OWN. FOR MORE INFORMATION, THE CREATORS EMAIL IS AS FOLLOWS: insertemail@here.co.uk

AvengingGibbons 11-26-2010 08:17 AM

Nowtun, how large can the texture resolution be for the model you sent me? I currently have it at 1024x1024 by default, but the bigger the better.. so.. how big?

nowtun 11-26-2010 09:55 AM

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Nowtun, how large can the texture resolution be for the model you sent me? I currently have it at 1024x1024 by default, but the bigger the better.. so.. how big?

well the texture Ive been using so far have been 512x512 (Small I know) by default, but for Abe the texture should be bigger (or any other character for that) so maybe no bigger than 2048x2048?

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Hey sorry to but in however there is something I need to bring to your attention about copyright Nowtun,

You see OWI states very little as far as I can see about copying Abe's Odysee, in the PS1 game pamphlet at the back it simply says that copies should not be made but, what I think is a revision comes out in Abe's Exoddus, basically it talks about editors and the sort allowing for modification so long as there is no monetary profit made from the new altered version. I feel that the remake that you have constructed is perfectly legal but in the title screen, you must write the following:

THIS GAME IS IN NO WAY ENDORSED BY EITHER GT INTERACTIVE OR ODDWORLD INHABITANTS, THIS GAME MAY NOT BE SOLD NOR MAY COPIES BE MADE FROM YOUR OWN. FOR MORE INFORMATION, THE CREATORS EMAIL IS AS FOLLOWS: insertemail@here.co.uk

thanks for this STM

it would seem that your now my legal team lol

STM 11-26-2010 02:22 PM

Excellent, all good practice for law school

AvengingGibbons 11-27-2010 02:57 AM

http://www.michaeldashow.com/tips_texturepainting.html

I was searching about texturing characters and how to paint the textures, and came across this very visual tutorial. It looks like a good one, so I thought I'd post it here just incase you would like to use it.

nowtun 11-27-2010 03:00 AM

My computer is not displaying the page right now so i'll have a look later.

Thanks AG

EDIT: Tried looking again can't open it. Thanks anyway

bigface1 11-27-2010 11:10 AM

Hey do you think you could get a demo going? sorry I just can't wait.

nowtun 11-27-2010 11:17 AM

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Hey do you think you could get a demo going? sorry I just can't wait.

Not yet sorry I am currently looking for a new programmer. But I am continuing with modling the rest of the game which should make it quicker when I finally find a programmer.

EDIT: Here's a link to Abe hanging in Paramonia test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80jTXIvCSmY

nOWtun

EDIT EDIT: Really rough demo video of in game play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv48tCmp9yI

nowtun 11-27-2010 04:54 PM

Here is a link to a video of me playing the demo of the game using camtasia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEQhVzXfkM

the models used in the vid are old versions, even though rupturefarms is essentially the same, the walls are now wider. Abe is now totaly different to the one used in the demo as you may have seen in some of the latest vids that featured Abe

this is just to reassure some of you that this is not just another pipe dream... this will be completed... even if it takes some time

nOWtun

Parappa 11-27-2010 05:22 PM

Hi nOWtun! i'm 19bender90 on youtube!!! can i see the current abe version?? i'm curious =D so..... nice work! keep it up! ;)

Chubfish 11-28-2010 12:06 AM

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Here is a link to a video of me playing the demo of the game using camtasia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJEQhVzXfkM

the models used in the vid are old versions, even though rupturefarms is essentially the same, the walls are now wider. Abe is now totaly different to the one used in the demo as you may have seen in some of the latest vids that featured Abe

this is just to reassure some of you that this is not just another pipe dream... this will be completed... even if it takes some time

nOWtun


Fucking awesome, even if they're old models, it's great progress.

Crashpunk 11-28-2010 01:22 AM

Very nice work there mate :D

STM 11-28-2010 02:18 AM

It was good to watch the first time ( ;D Nowtun ) seeing it again is better!

nowtun 11-28-2010 08:10 AM

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Hi nOWtun! i'm 19bender90 on youtube!!! can i see the current abe version?? i'm curious =D so..... nice work! keep it up! ;)

Hey man Yeah I'll put up some screen shots with a rough texture as I have someone having a go at Abe's new texture. I'll post them on deviant art and put the link up when they are done.


Here's the link http://nowtun.deviantart.com/art/Abe...71733#/d33sl82
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It was good to watch the first time ( ;D Nowtun ) seeing it again is better!

Yeah sorry the exclusitivity didn't last long.

STM 11-28-2010 08:22 AM

Heh heh, never mind, them unbelievers gotta see the light.

Scraby 11-28-2010 09:54 AM

looks nice,cant wait for demo release :)