Heh.
Bigface can be heard talking briefly at the beggining of AE, also.
His voice is deeper than Abe's there, for certain. I presume partly it's deep due to his theorised old age. He must be fairly old to have gained such skills?

Well his loincloth has gone grey, indicating a ridiculous a "let's not start this rumour please" biological factor in which mudokons are in a symbiotic relationship with their undies.

Ah... thank you people for answering my question.

Who the hells mind did that sprout from? Their loincloths are not alive. Fact. Live with it.
Obviously, it's gone grey with age. They're loincloths have a 'feeling' to them. The Mudokons always wear them, as they are a part of their culture. So it would seems presumable that they get a pair and keep them for life. Explaining why Bigface's have gone grey with age. Bit like how your jeans go lighter coloured over time i.e. the knees.

It came from my mind, Zerox. I think your spirited argument against the idea has given it the substance it needs to enter the n00b psyke. Wa-hey.

I don’t like that logic. I almost always wear clothes, and it must be a part of my culture, because it’s illegal for me not to do so in public. I don’t keep my clothes for life, primarily because they get worn out. Likewise, I don’t think Mudokons are worried about throwing the odd loincloth away when it’s reduced to tatters. It’s not as if they’re made from anything non‐renewable or non‐biodegradable.

p.s.

Or indeed the pedantic veteran psyche, it seems. :p

I see your point. Hmmm...maybe, depending on how long they last, the shaman's might pass a pair down through generations in some way? I never really focused on the loincloth, but if it's not grey from aging, it'll be made from a slightly different or rarer material, and so used as a status point along with the mask of a shaman.

Why do you guys always use those squares?
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I've got a question I've been thinking over for a while now...

Why is it that the industrialists produce... well... products?
I mean, the closest things I've seen in Oddworld to civilization are the industrialists. There doesn't seem to be any actual cities or countries.

Well no, there were the towns in SW, but still, I don't remember seeing any industrialized goods in them... I mean, is there a real reason for Scrab Cakes, Paramite Pies, Meech Munchies, or Mudo-Pops?

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=14255

Fixed

BM that link doesn't work.

As for actually answering the question; I'll leave that one to Max because I'm sure he'll be able to come up with a better description of Khanzumers than me.

EDIT: Hmmm... TOE doesn't have an entry on them.

Where did paramites exactly come from? Why do they really only attack if you corner them... why are they vicious with others? Is there any interesting hypothesis of Evolution of these creatures?

What's the deal with the 'Moon' Scene in Abe's Oddysee after he gets away from the slogs, then after that he falls and meets the big face.

Is the round thing around the slogs head kinda like a 'ram' mechanism? Similar to those Tri Horned Dinosaurs?

Why are Glukkons ugly...

not yet... ;)

They attack when cornered out of desperation. They are pack hunters, only gaining confidence with friends... the exact nature of their social system in indeterminate, whether it is loose, and they associate with any other paramites, or if they have tight-knit family groups.
They are not the only creatures on Oddworld to have finger-like appendages around their oral orifice, their superficial similarity with that of human hands is an example of convergant evolution (I am obligated by the state of Kansas to present the alternative theory of evolution: Stephen Olds' Design). They have been referred to as fingers, fangs and tentacles in the past, they could be called pedipalps, after the analogous feature shared with spiders, I have had various terms, incuding phalangipods and pterodontophores.

That would be the moment of his spiritual awakening. Pay attention! :p

That seems to be a simple frill, perhaps the remnants of a display crest, like that of Ceratopsidae, or serving some other biological function that we do not yet know. Of course, it could be evidence of SOD.

That is a matter of opinion, and one you should keep to yourself.

Racist...

Heh, Yes, I am sure to them, we are ugly. >.< It was just a joke.

I have many questions, I just can't think... and I try to get as much information as I can.

And those things on the 'mouth' of a Paramite do interest me, (same as with a slig.) I guess thats why it's called oddworld. lol

Edit: I still don't get the moon thing. lol.

Well, the moon has been around since before Abe was born. It didn't just appear there for no apparent reason. (Kinda symbolizing that the mudokons were a special race, and that they were needed for the survival of Oddworld. Abe in particular.)
When Abe saw it, he realized that he was important to the survival of many of the native species of Oddworld. It's like realizing that you Can do something for the world, and that pushes you to do it.

I hope that helps at all...

Well that was a better explanation than before. :P Thanks.

What was wrong with my explaination? :fuzconf:

I don't know. I think that yours was a pretty good explanaition, but different people need to hear things in different ways.............. Iguess.

Yeah, I'm slow. I like things to be complicated.

I wasn't saying you were slow, I was just saying everyone is different.

Unless you weren't poking at my post, then....

lol. Let's just -cough- Drop this little moment. I'll work on some better questions...

The reason we have’t seen any densely‐populated areas yet is because Abe hasn’t reached them. The Quintology is the story of his following the distribution channels of consumer goods from the exploited, polluted third world to the heart of the big cities. He’s got three anchor titles left to get there.

No article on TOE about Khanzumers? Hmmm, I can picture it now: “Khanzumers are a group we know nothing about. Last edited: seven years ago.”

How much longer is an Oddworld year compared to a Earth year?
I would think it would take longer because Oddworld is 10x larger than Earth

Size does not affect year length, as years are determind by the distance the planet is from the sun. There have been gas giants in other systems discovered that speed about the parent star in 1-2 days. Logically the distance from the sun would be similar to that of Earth, given the climate. But this is an example of selective accuracy. If Oddworld truly is ten times the size of Earth then the gravity would be much stronger. Regardless of the explainations for this, the implications for climate, plate tectonics and just about every other geological, biological and environmental aspect would be affected in huge ways because of the massive area of the crust, the Coriolis effect, speed of rotation and the length of days...

Better of move it into the blind spot of your mind and apply Earth-norm standards to it until they are officially stated otherwise.

Well, we don't really know that other planets have plate tectonics, so it could be that that doesn't apply to Oddworld.


But yeah, new question.


How in the hell did they develope a perfect English vocabulary?

You know, the developers may have just made it seem that they were speaking English. When in fact, they are speaking another language. But I couldn't answer that. That's just my theory.

Heh. I was thinking that but I wasn't going to say it. I just wanted to provide the wording of the official (if brief) description of Khanzumers.

BUT the evidence of tectonic activity is all around. Mountains are a dead giveaway, as are the very pressence of continents in a planet with such large oceans. Otherwise the land would be liable to total erosion and levelling below sea-level.

The fact there are islands and continents on a sea seems to suggest there is plate tectonic activity. Also, obviously mountain etc. Perhaps if fossils are found in Oddworld that could help explain even more.
As is said, Oddworld being x10 times larger than Earth would suggest x10 gravity, but maybe not to. Gravity is affected by mass, not size. So if Oddworld, as a planet, was not full of magma, but full of a lighter product, or maybe even a gaseous core surrounded by liquid, with the gas being condensed enough to keep the liquid around it in an orb. As a result, magma may swirl around differently inside the planet than the Earth, affected by the gas.
Dpeending on how much gas in relation to liquid there is, the planet's mass would vary, resulting in its gravity varying. Also, if not a sinlge 'lump' of gas, it may just be a number of bubbles that may never reach the surface because of the planet's rotations, or they neither rise or sink, depending on what type of gas...

Before I forget, partly related to this, though not necassarily and Oddworldian question, how come magma inside the Earth stays so hot? Surely it would eventually cool and solidify after long enough? The Sun is a mass of burning gases, but magma is merely molten rock. it's not burning anything. So how has it stayed hot for so long?

A real question, though: How exactly do Slig's pants operate? Do the vestigial legs/tail have enough muscle in to twitch slightly to make it walk, or what? It's not connected mentally or anything. is it? There was always that pipe thing going in the mask, but, you never know if that's something else.

Pretty much the only thing I remember from AS Geography is that the Earth’s core remains hot thanks to radioactive decay. But there will be hundreds of places you can find fuller, more accurate answers than an Oddworld discussion board.

Bullet Magnet, no. Stay boy. Let him find it himself.

By BM to stay, does that mean I'm out of the doghouse now?

The whole 'Slig pants' connection thing is probably something that has to with mental connection. When the Slig gets into his pants, the pants actually regonizes the user of the pants, and follows his gentic code that has brain wave activity. While this happens, the Slig is able to control the pants even without the pants even on. You can see that in MO good ending, when the Valet falls out of his pants and when he is twitching in what just happened, his pants are still moving with him.

Oh and, Zerox, are does Mudokon skeletons in Necrum consider 'fossils'?

Those skeletons haven't undergone fossilisation yet. Fossils are made of rock, but they used bones in SoulStorm Brew. Also they weren't old enough, or in the right conditions.

I always figured that that was because the pants suddenly found themselves uncontrolled. You throw yourself (as the driver) out of a moving car and you'll see my point. PLEASE NOTE: This was a thought experiment only. Don't do this at home, kids.

Psychic thought control is rather implausible.

Like when you cut the head off a chicken.

Yes, an even better metaphor. Especially in that it is one everyone can do at home. Fun for all the family.

Hm, those are nice responses. But why did Toast's pants didn't respond the same way as Valet's? Is it because the pant's fuel probably died when the electricity hit Toast, the pants couldn't react to sudden lose of host?

They had fallen over. And had been fried by a lightning bolt. I wonder though- did he survive?

Valet was angry/depressed because Lulu spent all of the money.
Toast's pants were shocked causing the electronics to malfunction and lost the connection between him and the pants.