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FennecFyre 03-02-2017 03:23 PM

Je-sus Christ.

Theory-wise, I'm also assuming that's an intern's eyes reflected in the glass, but they look too wide--normally interns have very narrowed eyes and a cynical expression, unless this one is soft-hearted enough to be horrified at what that mudokon is growing through.

MeechCrunchies 03-02-2017 03:26 PM

So is nobody noticing the symbols on the bottom of the picture that Phoetux posted? Nobody at all? Let's get on it!

OrangeLightning 03-02-2017 03:40 PM

These 4K images, man. So good even when they are traumatizingly horrific :D

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I did this thing, Those eyes... are creeping me out! and they are too close to be Mudokon's, too big to be Vykker's, Too Different to be Glukkon's... huh...

Nice job highlighting some of the more tantalizing details, Shade! Hey, anyone else thinking that shape you circled down near the bottom right looks like a hand??

FennecFyre 03-02-2017 04:33 PM

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These 4K images, man. So good even when they are traumatizingly horrific :D



Nice job highlighting some of the more tantalizing details, Shade! Hey, anyone else thinking that shape you circled down near the bottom right looks like a hand??

Definitely looks like a hand to me, but I don't know what species it belongs to. It looks like there's one too many fingers for it to be a mud, unless the first and second are splayed out and that finger between them is just a trick of the light off the glass.

Gunnr 03-02-2017 04:37 PM

I'm having a hard time figuring out what runes/symbols match what shade meadows highlighted, it may be a combination of a couple we've used on the past? :\ getting stumped

OrangeLightning 03-02-2017 04:38 PM

Yeah, it definitely looks like it may have 4 fingers and a thumb and kinda too stumpy for a Mudokon hand. Vykkers have those pinchy claw things and Interns have those 5 really long fingers... Then again if it WAS a hand pressed up against the glass like it looks like,we would be able to see it pressed up on this side of the glass, wouldn't we?
Unless it's on that side of the glass...
Maybe it's a ghost? :eek:

Conzeit 03-02-2017 05:35 PM

I was registered here a LONG time ago....glad to be back even if for a bit =)

I think the two eyes could be two mudokons, standing right next to eachother, one eye of each showing.

The "hand" looks like it may be a paw to me, also reasonable considering it's at the bottom

Shade_Meadows 03-02-2017 08:22 PM

THANKS PEOPLE!
=D thanks for liking my analysis, i'm happy to be of any use!
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also... those eyes, based on the size, they must be FAR away from the "cell" which means... MANY MORE CELLS

STM 03-02-2017 11:08 PM

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inb4 the eyes are fucking fuzzle eyes.

Big if true.

Vanilla ✜ 03-03-2017 01:33 AM

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Je-sus Christ.

Theory-wise, I'm also assuming that's an intern's eyes reflected in the glass, but they look too wide--normally interns have very narrowed eyes and a cynical expression, unless this one is soft-hearted enough to be horrified at what that mudokon is growing through.

You may have a point, I went through the cut scene in MO where the Intern notices Munch isn't in his chair and his eye don't really go THAT wide, their also not as close together as the eyes in the image, but they could just be turned to the side? :fuzconf:
Edit; I'm not sure those things at the bottom is a hand, it looks more like a messed up bottom jaw, also there seems to be more reflected stuff but placed along side the eyes, none of the things I see make sense.

Shade_Meadows 03-03-2017 02:34 AM

Also... the Hand-Botton-Thingie, reminds me of the tribal symbol for Paramite

STM 03-03-2017 03:24 AM

https://i.gyazo.com/aef53782dfa145b5...908d8904df.png

I've tidied up the writing scratched into the glass. Does anyone know if this is an IRL script? If not, we'll have to try and decipher it.

Vanilla ✜ 03-03-2017 04:46 AM

I've searched a fair amount and can't find anything like these runes, I've found one or two that match a few of the symbols but not much else.

Shade_Meadows 03-03-2017 04:56 AM

Can it be a combination of more than one cipher?

Or they can be incomplete on purpose, it seems the "runes" were scratched on the glass, but we cannot tell if it was from the outside or inside... maybe it's reversed or backwards?

STM 03-03-2017 05:58 AM

The reason I presume the messages are complete is that many graphemes are repeated throughout, althogh you're right that we don't know which order the words go.

Xavier 03-03-2017 07:44 AM

I've spent way too much time looking at runic alphabets and I'm afraid if there's a code here we're going to have to do it the hard way and try to map letters on those ourselves.

If someone want to have a go here are some easy steps to get you going:
http://www.wikihow.com/Decipher-a-Secret-Code

AlexanderG 03-03-2017 08:15 AM

ORRIBILE DISGUSTING THEORY
 
HOLY SH*T ... the Eyes outside Can be of the Same Mudokon that is inside... Is an orribile idea to think, but it could be...
The very CRUEL Glukkons, as the "operation" with the Poor Mudokon Failed ,and maybe the Eyes "go outside" of orbits (Yes, disgusting), they put his Eyes outside as a symbol of "watch what we Will do to you, piece of meat"
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STM 03-03-2017 09:27 AM

Oh my GOODNESS that's a horrible disgusting theor--isnt that a horrible disgusting theory, Xav!?!?

Shade_Meadows 03-03-2017 09:48 AM

Well! i love all of ya, but i will go without net for a couple of days! ;D hope our investigation is hard on the trail... i don't know the sayings XD
Back soon guys and gals!

Granitehead96 03-03-2017 10:09 AM

Im going to see if I can make something out of the eyes

Vanilla ✜ 03-03-2017 07:44 PM

So I've asked the boyfriend if he is able to find anything with the symbols and he found that they mostly seem to be called Brahmi writing. They do match although it seems to be flipped and reversed all over the place.
Heres a few links:
http://www.ancientscripts.com/brahmi.html
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/brahmi.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/brahmi.html

JayDee 03-04-2017 01:51 AM

For anyone having trouble making out the eyes(s?) here a quickly edited picture.



At first I was seeing two eyes immediately next to eachother, but upon editing it seemed that there's only one.

Xavier 03-04-2017 02:11 AM

If it's only one eye I'm betting Vykkers...

JayDee 03-04-2017 02:26 AM

We've seen hints at Vykkers so far in some of the previous images so I'm gonna assume that it's a Vykker as well

Gunnr 03-04-2017 06:16 AM

I think Vykker's eye are too beady to be the ones reflected in the glass.
http://i.imgur.com/SaQDe2Cl.jpg

I'm sticking with my Intern theory, they just resemble the reflected eyes far more than a vykkers to me(just wider, as if it were surprised or something). If we are seeing vykkers then doesn't it make sense that Interns would be hanging around them too?
http://i.imgur.com/cEGal5Zl.png


They really don't look lke mudokon eyes either, so unless by some crazy far fetched chance we are going to see and completely NEW creature/spieces in this sequel, my best guess is Intern.

GreenAnhinga 03-04-2017 06:16 AM

I did have one idea which doesn't make sense. But it could. but probably isn't, a Grubb (Stranger's Wrath). I've been looking through TOGG and the Wiki to try and figure out what it could be. But I do think an Intern is a real possibility. It makes sense because they work for the Vykkers as Gunnr mentioned. The room itself bears similarities to things we've seen in Munch's Oddysee and for now I'm looking through Munch's Oddysee cutscenes for any instances of a Vykker's handwriting. It would be the.. cherry on top of the cake I guess? I dunno. Maybe I'm wasting time. I've also noticed that when Munch tells the Fuzzles to "Get 'em!" The Intern's eyes are pretty wide. but not as circular(?) If anyone has any ideas or suggestions i'd love to hear them!

OrangeLightning 03-04-2017 10:18 AM

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I'm not sure those things at the bottom is a hand, it looks more like a messed up bottom jaw

I think you're right :fuzgrin:

Ooooh GUYS! Okay, so I did some tweaking in photoshop and I think I know what the eye is from! I was looking at the picture and I noticed that the right 'eye' didn't really look the same as the left. The 'iris' of the right was a lot more indistinct and if you look above the eyes there is actually another spot that looks similar to the right iris; so I figured the second eye is probably just some grit and I removed it. I also took out all of the diamond lines on the glass and dodged out most of the shadows from the padded walls so the reflection would be clearer. Then I just bumped contrast and burned in some of the areas that seemed like shadows to me.

I'm thinking Vykker. This definitely looks like a Vykker to me :D


EDIT: Here's the second image showing why I took out the other 'eye'.

Gunnr 03-04-2017 11:23 AM

^ OMG THAT JAW! It really does look like a vykker! I guess the eyes had a little make over in SS? Very cool OrangeLightning;)

AvengingGibbons 03-04-2017 11:56 AM

Has anyone suggested the eye could be a fuzzle's eye? The part immediately beneath the 'eye' looks like a fuzzle's mouth, with its spiky teeth...

I guess there's fuzzles in that place as the vykkers use them for testing (that's correct, aint it?...)

TopHattedTime 03-04-2017 12:28 PM

Saw on the OWI Facebook that someone suggested flipping the photo to decode those scratches on the glass, and they seemed to agree with that approach...

Also, to me, those marks look like a mixture of just good ol' runes and something else. Some of them need rotating slightly and stuff, but yeah?