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Nepsotic 06-05-2012 11:46 AM

Yes. And it was incredibly annoying. Just leave the red rings in. Don't fix it if its not broken.

SpAM_CAN 06-05-2012 11:47 AM

Alternatively, redesign the puzzles. The Red Rings just weaken the idea of the Shrykull being this great power.

Nepsotic 06-05-2012 11:51 AM

I don't think they did at all. Leave them!

SpAM_CAN 06-05-2012 12:02 PM

Video related. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xsjb13xPdk

EDIT: One thing, I think that Karl quote meant to say 'Treat' on your sig.

Nepsotic 06-05-2012 12:05 PM

Oh, shit yeah. I'll change that.

Scrabaniac 06-05-2012 01:21 PM

The rings are ok, I just wish it was more than just a ring if you know what I mean, it seemed quite cheap. Enhance it a bit more but not as epic as the shrykull. I think it would be more dramatic if we heard thunder, the screen dims and maybe when it's all over, we hear like a tinnitus noise (high pitched beeeeeeeeeep) and slowly fade back into gameplay sounds and music. (talking about the shrykull of course)

STM 06-05-2012 03:56 PM

Yeh, do that! Let's just take the flash bang from Call of Duty and use that.

Nate 06-05-2012 05:52 PM

Let's keep this thread on-topic, everyone. Discussion of p/bro-nies should be relegated to its appropriate place and direct communication from one member to another must occur via Private Message.

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Is that FB post directly copied? Not to be mean to you folks... but that doesn't read like a post from a company... I know its Facebook, but perhaps an air of professionalism is in order? (Though I really shouldn't tell you how to run your company :3)

Seems fine to me. I'd much prefer a human voice to a robotic PR announcement.

Scrabaniac 06-05-2012 11:34 PM

Ok guys I don't play video games much at all so you can just tell me if an idea has been used already without the sarcasm, thanks :)

Sekto Springs 06-05-2012 11:58 PM

You mean, be genuinely insightful, without the facetiousness?

Does.

Not.

Compute.

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 05:51 AM

Taking the sarcasm out of me would be like tearing the tail off a cat - I'd lose balance and fall over all the time.

Slog Bait 06-06-2012 07:18 AM

I see no problem with keeping the red rings in. They're not nearly as powerful as the Shrykull and can't destroy anything organic. Also, I liked having to go through all that bullshit just to get a ring so I could blow up a screen full of mines to progress. Floating mines aren't exactly easy to blow up with a rock, just saying.

It was also pretty great getting used to this weird ring that blew up everything, then suddenly getting this crazy god power that made you invincible for a short amount of time and zapped everything on the screen into oblivion. The red rings don't make you invincible. Your ass can still die when you use that.

Plus, upon returning to Rupture Farms, there's only one place you can even get the red rings anymore, and that area is a completely optional path. Speaking of that, if the Skrykull you get from rescuing the two mudokons while heading back to the screen the game started in had a better use than just frying 4 random sligs running in from off screen that'd be fantastic. The Skrykull entirely replaces the red rings for the second half of the game. There's no need to remove the red rings. They serve as an interesting mechanic for part of the game and the Skrykull is like an upgrade to that, and everybody loves upgrades.

MeechCrunchies 06-06-2012 08:13 AM

Yeah but how about eliminating the need for the Red Rings after the return the Rupture Farms? You talk about upgrades and yet it seems like there will still be both of them in the same place. :/

Scrabaniac 06-06-2012 08:47 AM

I don't think Abe' Oddysee is the type of game which should use 'Upgrades', you should work for it to gain it, like you do with the shrykull. I'm not sure how to approach the red ring situation, you need them to progress through certain areas yet they seem too powerful to be close to to the strength of the shrykull.

Nepsotic 06-06-2012 10:42 AM

There is absolutely no problem with the red rings whatsoever. There is no need to alter or change them or remove them, it would only anger some die hard fans that you remove something so iconic.

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 11:32 AM

I just see it as pointless. Its like you already have the ability to throw fireballs when suddenly the gods give you the ability to throw slightly larger fireballs. Its like having a combat shotgun and then being given a slightly more expensive combat shotgun that just has a couple more shells in the canister. Its ruins the impact the Shrykull was intended to have in the game. The ability to turn into a god should not just be seen as a weapon upgrade, it should be seen as an almighty ability gained by going through ancient trials. Hell, the red rings kinda ruin the idea that Abe is a pacifist - at least when he turns into the Shrykull he doesn't have any control over what he is zapping the shit out of.

And I'd hardly say the red rings are iconic. They kinda just felt out of place and come out of nowhere.

Scrabaniac 06-06-2012 11:34 AM

^agreed^ however I don't think they should be taken out, just edited maybe. I don't particularly want anything taken away from the original, it just needs tweaking.

JayDee 06-06-2012 11:39 AM

I think they should add more Mudokon Gods. Not as powers but just as cave paintings or something, Mudokons seem too calm a race to only have a god of War and Revenge.

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 11:43 AM

Yeah, that sounds cool. I don't know how you could tweak the red rings, besides having other Mudokons cast it or something (that would make Abe seem weak still, whilst keeping the basic idea of the rings)

Scrabaniac 06-06-2012 11:48 AM

I don't know where I'm going with this, but if mudokons are evolved from birds, why not replace the red rings with some sort of bird power? Idk abe chants and a swarm of birds home in on the mines? That's just a silly idea but you know where I'm coming from.

JayDee 06-06-2012 11:50 AM

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Idk abe chants and a swarm of birds home in on the mines?

I'd kill to see a swarm of sacred mudokon birds fly at a landmine.

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 11:51 AM

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I'd kill to see a swarm of sacred mudokon birds fly at a landmine.

This... needs to happen.

Scrabaniac 06-06-2012 12:10 PM

Just a random idea thrown out there, sounds quite funky. I can just see Abe chanting, attracting lots of birds that swarm around him and them disperse, suicide bombing into landlines..

Nepsotic 06-06-2012 12:15 PM

The mines don't make the Shrykull less effective at all. Whats the problem? When they're remaking AE are you gonna request they remove the green rings and yellow rings?

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 12:17 PM

Perhaps throwing bait for them might be better than Abe having Super Bird Powers (because he could probably take over RuptureFarms with that, sod the Shrykull)

Scrabaniac 06-06-2012 12:18 PM

Green rings make more sense as it is a completely different power, as are the yellow. Maybe it's just the fact that the red rings do very similar effects as the shrykull.

Scrabaniac 06-06-2012 12:20 PM

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Perhaps throwing bait for them might be better than Abe having Super Bird Powers (because he could probably take over RuptureFarms with that, sod the Shrykull)
Possibly, although I don't know how birds would get into RuptureFarms. So that might be that idea out the window.

Sorry for double post, I'm on a phone and when a new post appears it plays up..

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 12:21 PM

That is exactly my point. Yellow Rings are fine, they are just an indicator that you are charged with invisibility Spirit Rings

EDIT: I meant that if he could control the birds of Oddworld he could just get a huge flock of them and Bird Rush the place.

JayDee 06-06-2012 12:25 PM

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Possibly, although I don't know how birds would get into RuptureFarms. So that might be that idea out the window.

The window. They'd get in through the window.

SpAM_CAN 06-06-2012 12:29 PM

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The window. They'd get in through the window.

Does RuptureFarms look like the kind of place to have windows? :3