Nate: A man as optimistic as he is straight. :3

But it's coming soon

As is Nate.

so hi Im new here what should I do to get started?

Boy I wonder how this is going to turn out.

Introduce yourself in the welcome & birthday thread here: http://www.oddworldforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=18

E: Nevermind, I've just seen the blog

Why don't mudokons in New 'n' Tasty have hair? Someone told that before but I can't remember, sorry...

The textures looked low quality at 4k resolutions, so they ditched the hair altogether.

It's supposed to mirror real world examples of creatures changing due to their environment. Like salmon losing their colour in salmon farms. So the Mudokons only grow their feathers, and become greener, once they start living in their natural environments.

Abe's different because he's a Mudokon Messiah or something...

But natives don't have hair too

They do. Just watched a video of Monsaic Lines gameplay to double check.

I watched a youtube's video showing all NNT's movies and natives don't have hair in those movies! I saw they do in the gameplay.

Maybe they're recently rescued Mudokons? Or, more likely, I supposed it's a goof.

Here's the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKd3Z2busds

I don't know

abe being different makes sense since he already was so different.

I really want an AE emotion t-shirt. Can I still use the catalog in the manual to get one? If not where can I?
Edit: shit, sorry delete this

Redbubble has some fan-made shirts, but that is kind of copyright infringement.

The most wishful thinking ever. That catalog is over 10 years old.

Hopefully in the future, OWI can put together a merch store. I for one would love some new official Oddworld merch. :)

Would it not be the greatest thing ever if a 16 year old catalog still worked?

Does Abe have a dick under his loin cloth?

Depends on whether you read fan fics.

He presumably has some organ to urinate through. It's probably just a cloaca, though.

There's no such thing as "just" a cloaca, Nathan.

Holy crap it's been almost a year since anyone posted in this thread. Reviving!

Hi

Okay, the reason I wanted to post here in the first place: I was reading that the Magog Cartel are pretty low down in the peking order in terms of corporate prestige; they're the McDonalds of Oddworld; creating low quality, low price products for the Khanzumerz and most people wouldn't so much as sniff at their products. As far as being crooks go, they're small time.

I'm interested to know that if this massive evil collective is really pretty minor, do we know anything about who the fuck any of the bigger, badder guys are?

I can't give you a link, but rummaging around my own memory, I seem to remember Lorne mentioning the investors of these companies being the arch-villians of the series. Ergo, it's not so much the bigger companies we should be thinking about; it's the folks financing them.

But we know almost nothing about who these investors are either, except that they live deep down within the earth and that even Maggie won't go near them. After Molluck's trial, she purportedly forces her son to go and try to explain to the investors why the Magog's stock prices are so low, refusing to do it herself.

Damn, vlam is on the ball. Cheers.

I wonder what exactly inspired the creation of paramites and scrabs? I can probably take a guess at their names obviously, I was thinking more real life influences for their behaviors and design.

The scrabs like to duke it out and kill each other when they are in close proximity. So, I assume they are all males fighting for alpha status?

If that's the case, I wonder where the females are. I get they're nesting within the temples, but as far as I know, we never actually get to see any.

Plus, I wonder how the creation process went when making their designs. I always kinda liked how the mandibles on the Paramites look like fingers.

If I recall, I think one of the Dear Alf entries explained this a bit. Female Scrabs live in large herds, like the one we see in MO, with a dominant alpha female, whereas males are solitary and territorial, sorta like elephants. The ones we see in the temple are extra-aggressive because of the lack of space, so territory fights happen far more often and go much further (perhaps another reflection on real-life endangered species?).

I think Paramites, on the other hand, live in large colonies and have a broodqueen.

It's not that they're small-time in the corporate world. They are massive, and across all the constituent families they make products and services for the financial elite and the regular masses alike. It's just that the highest-ranking members we've seen have only been in charge of single facilities or small slices of fledgling empires. They don't care about the damage they do to cultures and nature in their quest for personal wealth and recognition.

But they do answer to their investors, both within and beyond the Magog Cartel. Oktigi are a big financial family or families, but so far we've only seen Sekto, who's still at the low level of industry management. As a group they're not part of the Cartel, but individuals can be members. A high-ranking investor doesn't just damage the world as a byproduct of their operations; they deliberately engineer damage to the world that will serve their power-seeking interests. But that's harder to fight against because they're not public-facing like corporations and CEOs. They keep themselves far away from public scrutiny, operating through disposable corporate-level pawns.

Then there's the creepy fuckers a level above them. They don't just keep their business secrets, they're keeping their very existence known only to the elites. Then there are their masters. I don't know if that's even the top.

I've always assumed everything the Cartel does is legal. What do we know about the government of Oddworld? What crazy fuckers are saying this is OK?

So what you're saying is that Abe, Munch, Stranger, and any other rebels we might eventually meet are screwed six ways to Sunday.

Also, all these scary investor guys live underground where it's sweltering and hellish, right? Now I can't help but picture a Balrog in a business suit.

Does Oddworld even have an official government? I thought it was just a capitalistic free-for-all.

*drops mic*

Also that is actually very interesting <3

Oddworld companies and communities seem to be species based/ clan based, so I'm guessing there isn't really a big amount of intermingling between species when there doesn't have to be? More than that though, I know glukkons are a superspecies, and gloktigi are part of that superspecies, however they fact that they appear to be less evolved, parasitic even, surely means that they would be lower down the rungs of business? How come then, that they are apparently answerable to by glukkons within the Magog Cartel? How did they become part of this management-financing role?

e: does any of that actually make sense?

Low-grade and small-time are two different things. McDonald’s is low-grade but they rake in cash.

I said low on the peking order as well, but from that I saw the implication that perhaps they were small-scale compared to other, larger cartels/families. Evidently (according to Wil) that's not the case.

I could be wrong, but I thought that the taxonomic family Gluks belonged to was Octigi, which the Oktigi are also a part of, and that Gloktigi were Glukkon-Oktigi hybrids.

I honestly love how detailed Oddworld's lore is though, it's so much fun to look for little bits of info the games don't cover.

That's it yeah, octigi. Man my extended lore knowledge is rusty. I thought gloktigi were pre-existing, but augmented with technology/magic, by other members of the superspecies?

They could very well be, it's never confirmed just where they come from aside from one Dear Alf snippet. What makes me curious is that they don't even seem sentient, or at least aren't able to talk. What's up with that?

E: Oh, and when they're first introduced in SW, I swear I remember Sekto referring to one as his "pet" which is creepy on so many levels unless gloktigi only have animal-tier intelligence.