I don't mind whether Stranger's name is released or not. Keeping his real name, if he has one, a secret seems a rather pointless endeavor, but at the same time revealing it shouldn't be gratuitous. After all, we've not learned either Abe's or Munch's full names in the games, yet.

I think it's rather obvious the game will be dark. Every Oddworld release so far has been dark, and I don't think they'd give up that defining quality on what's possibly their biggest shining. Who instilled this doubt?

Did anyone else think it weird when the Grubbs started referring to Stranger as 'Steef'. You'd think they'd have names for their protectors, or if they didn't, not to call them by their species...

Well, they called him Steef Dude. It'll be like me calling a talking goat "Goat Dude", after i've had a huge smoking session with a bunch of stoners. Then i'll be talking to anything, no matter goats.

I hope its not about stranger, i like him and all, but whenever i look at abe i see loads of posibilities about mudokons past and what happend before they was slaved,why there hand is on the moon, why they only have four fingers and all kinds of stuff that interests me. Thats why id rather see a film about mudokons than seeing stranger.

Their hand is on the moon by sheer coincidence if I remember rightly. It's just a random pattern of craters. Someone else can probably confirm or deny this. I'm 99% sure that's why though.

Lorne says it'll never be explained whether it's just sheer coincidence or some kind of supernatural omen. Obviously, it has spiritual significance to the Mudokons.

It's not a coincedence. There are 5 quintology heros, and each of them have thier own moon with thier paw (or foot or whatever it may be) on it.
So yes it is a "supernatural omen"

Yes, but not you or me knows that for sure.

And no, not every hero has their own moon. I was reading on Ask Alf that they would probably discontinue that moon paw thing.

He actually did have a name in all three films: Joe, Manco, and Blondie respectively. That slogan was developed by the advertising department.

Actually, it's probably a good idea to discontinue the moon idea. I always thought the ending of Munch where his moon is revealed seemed somewhat forced or just didn't sit right. I'm not an Abe fanatic or anything, but the moon-paws just seemed to be much more of an 'Abe thing'.

The Mudokons gathering around with their hand raised to the moon is fantastic imagery, and their paw just seems to look right. The Gabbit moon... well, I just thought it seemed a lot less special.

i agree they went to far with that but i think that it was kinda "right" to have that moon it just seemed like it fit to the story and it was amazing during the end when they all raised there hand to the moon.

Sorry if you misunderstood, the Mudokon Moon was deffinately a nice addition. It just seemed to fit and allowed for some great scenes as well as further insight into the background of their spiritual culture. It's the Gabbit moon that didn't sit right with me. Something about it just didn't seem... right.

a moon for each hero is still a good Idea to me.
I mean why would the 2 first heroes have a moon and not the others?

The quintology is about one of the most important story on oddworld, if not the most important one. I think some supernatural omens can show them some support :p

A good point Xavier. I guess I kind of wished Munch's moon was never shown. The supernatural omen of the moon seemed like such a great idea when we first read about it, but after seeing Munch's moon revealed I became less excited by the idea.

I'm wondering though, now that the quintology will likely be represented through film, do you think OWI will be going back and changing things they were less happy with? For instance, (I realise I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here) come time for the Munch's Oddysee film, do you think we'll see Munch revert back to the 'Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde' type character that Lorne had originally intended and get to see what the story should have been rather than what it turned out to be?

On one hand it does render the rest of the series rather inconsistant, but on the other after hearing of how Lorne was dissapointed and discouraged by Munch's Oddysee, I think I would much rather see what he had always intended for. I believe in some interviews with Lorne, he stated that due to changes that had to be made in MO for the sake of speedier production, he would need to consider rewriting the rest of the quintology as a result. If this is true, then perhaps he has the chance to correct things this time round.

Just a few thoughts...

Mojoman- Those were nicknames given to him. Generalisations because of his appearence. Just like Stranger. No. They never gave him a name.

I agree with Tom. I'm quite eager know how Oddworld will do these films, whether he will go back to the original Abe story, or whether he will try to emulate the game as closely as possible.
This also brings up the titles - will they be named Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (etc)? Though this might seem likely, it also connects them explicably to the games, and if the films are different with changed stories, then it could annoy people who find and buy the games as a result of seeing the films.
Personally, I'd rather they had different names. I always loved the name 'SoulStorm' as the original name for AO, but as it is a Quintology, it might be hard to find an easy way to connect the titles. Oddworld: [name]'s Oddysee is certainly easier.

You know I just thought of something. Most of the movie audience thinks that video games of the movies will most likely suck. This might mean that a certain people would want to stay AWAY from the games. Because they might think its just a horrible remake of the movie. Like a lot of games are. So if we are unlucky the movie might bring NEGATIVE attention for the games. Does anyone agree that this theory might be true?

You know what wills eriously suck? If the movie turns out to be a big hit selling out in theatres everywhere and scoring top numbers over the weekend. (not that) Then the gaming industry (like they do with every popular movie) will begin competing for a spot in creating a game based off the movie.

I agree completely. If Abe has his own moon, I think Munch and the other 3 should have one too.
Having thier own moon gives you the feeling that THEY ARE the quintology heroes, and not just some regular heroes like Stranger.

And yes, the Quintology IS the most important story of Oddworld. I mean, it has 5 parts to it and it was the very beginning thought for Oddworld (I think it was, correct me if I'm wrong)

But the question remains: Why aren't all moons visible from the start? I guess when the new ones appear, the locals say "Oh. We've been saved again.".

Thats a very poor way to put it in my opinion. Look at the lord of the rings eries. It has numerous novels incorporated into it besides the trilogy. The silmarillion giving muich more information than the trilogy gave.

Stranger is not a regular hero. A hero is never "regular." A hero is someone who does something remarkable and amazing for one force in a conflict. So I think he could level in eminence with both abe and munch. Even more than munch, if you look colosely, you can tell Starnger had to deal with events much more perilous than munch did.

Perhaps the moons aren't about the heroes in the story. But for the race itself. The mudokons taking down the industry, the gabbits being repopulated again.

I think the feature of including Roid's main reason was more of a gameplay feature, a more complex transformation than Shrykull in a way that Munch's alter ego will be affected by emotion, such as in fustrating situations when playing. But I like the idea and think it's worth having for making Munch a more interesting character.
Also I'm sure if there was a movie based on MO it will be different. MO had affected the whole Quintology in the wrong way.


You know If you look at the early story boards of Abe's Oddysee, it gives you an idea of how the movie will look like, you could almost tell what Abe's thinking or feeling.:fuzwink:

Not quite sure what you mean with the locals and all, Supermunch, (please explain) but that is a good point about why all the moons aren't visible from Abe's Oddysee, the very beginning.
If we were talking about why they really aren't visible, it would be because it would ruin some things about the next Quintology hero.
But if we were talking Oddworld-wise, I would say they were being covered by things. That would really be the only explanation.

But none of those make any sense, my boy. The only half assed excuse I can make up for the moment is that Oddworld has 5 moons, and each region goes through cycles of having a certain moon, and then there are special occasions where two can appear.

Still half assed though.

True, the moons cycling is a good explanation (maybe not to you, but to me, it's good).
That could very well be, the moons cycling and appearing at different times, but that still would kind of leaves it unanswered in gameplay, because you would have to sometimes see different moons while playing.
Still a good thought.

There was one theory (suggested by Lorne, I think) that the marks on each moon were created by meteors at the moment before we first see them.

Alternatively, they're always visible to the surface of Oddworld but the Inhabitants have not yet deigned to show them to us.

Ahhh, well that WOULD explain how in Abe's Oddysee just before you see the "I had just got passed those Slogs, when the strangest thing I saw." movie, there is a big moon (during gameplay) but with no print on it. But then when the movie plays, there is a paw print on it.
A very Strange thought to think about.

Cullan, I don't think that's the moon, and you do see Abe's printed moon in gameplay (before the FMV you're talking)

Of course it is the same moon!!! Are you trying to say that just because he jumped down from a cliff, onto another platform, there will be another moon down there? No, it for sure is the same moon.


And I don't think that you can see the print during gameplay. Let me double check.

Cullen you are confusing me dearly. If you knew that was the same moon then why would you think it's strange? Hell for all we know the moon revolves(spins on it axis) quicker than our moon. And we see the side of which the paw is on during the movie!

Also Used I ain't saying it would suck if the movie was good. I meant it would suck if it made people think that the games would be horrible. comprende? :p