Wo, dude that is like, really true man! I actually had to re-read it to make sense of it

Give it back.

We have a great deal of sensory data input 24/7 to deal with. The way we do so so dependant upon the way your brain is working. So there are genetic and developmental factors there, but also learned behaviours. We remember the past and the result of past actions, and these direct us.

The most fascinating observational studies are of individuals (of any species) in which this direction breaks down. Usually do to stress under a unique circumstance. Lots of opposing choices and the individual ends up doing something quite inappropriate for the circumstance. Grooming, for instance.

That's the classical idea of free will. What I'm talking about is the choices themselves. When I say "desire" I mean the sensation of making the decision to act.

I wish i'd taken Psychology.

You don't. It's not this interesting most of the time.

"This, however, is an argument against a different statement, namely, doing something that is not even defined. There is no such thing as a square circle, even conceptually. But the notion of something so heavy (or creating said thing) that one could not lift it, is not illogical."

I can quote Wikipedia just as easily as you can.

So... How bout that Wikileaks? Pretty crazy right?

I think the rape claims were fake!

They just wanted him behind bars.

I'm told that in Sweden, having sex without a condom and later refusing a blood test for STIs counts as rape. So by that standard, he may well have committed rape.


On the other hand, it seems like the accusations against him have changed several times since they were first announced. Either there's some dodginess going on, or the reportage has been suspect - both seem equally likely to me.

Even if the rape allegations are false...he is still a menace to the safety and peace of the entire world.

I don't like safety and peace of having an oversecretive government being menaced. I'm glad STM's on my side, he'll protect me.

I will MM, I will always stand by you! Forever and ever, even more than MA

No, don't you see?

He means that without WikiLeaks we'll be safe from the government!

i so hope that's what he means

Oh, yeh that's sorta what I think too. Damn INGSOC Conservatives

Our governments, corporations and special interest groups have got the whole "menace" thing down already.

It has been said that morality is what you do when you think nobody's watching, and our governments have been unsupervised for far too long.

But then who supervises the supervisors?

Oh, the jobs people work at!
Out west, near Hawtch-Hawtch,
there’s a Hawtch-Hawtcher Bee-Watcher.
His job is to watch…
is to keep both his eyes on the lazy town bee.
A bee that is watched will work harder, you see.

Well…he watched and he watched.
But, in spite of his watch,
that bee didn’t work any harder. Not Mawtch.

So somebody said,
“Our old-bee-watching man
just isn’t bee-watching as hard as he can.
He ought to be watched by another Hawtch-Hawtcher!
The thing that we need
is a Bee-Watcher-Watcher!”

WELL…

The Bee-Watcher-Watcher watched the Bee-Watcher.
He didn’t watch well. So another Hawtch-Hawtcher
had to come in as a Watch-Watcher-Watcher!
And today all the Hawtchers who live in Hawtch-Hawtch
are watching on Watch-Watcher-Watchering-Watch,
Watch-Watching the Watcher who’s watching the bee.
You’re not a Hawtch-Watcher. You’re lucky, you see!

I'm a apiarist...did you write this just for me OANST? You little grotesque thing you.

No, but Dr. Seuss did.

...oh you quoted.

My head literally exploded upon reading this... And yes I mean literally. I must now pick up the remaining pieces and glue my head back together.

A two party part-time loop is the clear solution. People and government.

Don't look too deeply into it. I just like finding excuses to post Dr. Seuss.

Making excuses? Why that reminds me of a story called The Lorax...

Hey guys remember when this thread was about Wikileaks

Just like how Christmas used to be about Christ, but them danged atheists took that too.

You mean how Christmas used to be about Mithras before those damn Christians took that, right?

Nope, I'm pretty sure it was them atheists.

Wikiwhat?

Ok guys, Please keep this thread on topic from now on, or let it die if you feel there's no more juice in it.

Anything that's not related will be deleted I guess X_x


Anyway, so How's that Assange dood doing?

Granted bail.

I saw him being interviewed on the news last night. With a name like "Assange" I didn't expect him to have an Australian accent.

Confidential reports from FBI agents to the Bureau, intercepted by Wikileeks
(Welsh Information Kontrol Institute):

As instructed, trained Subject 443 with machine gun and live ammo and got him worked up to enter his fourth-grade classroom with dud gun we have provided to quote “kill my asshole teacher and all them asshole kids what are always laughing at me,” however am requesting further review of this project in view of fact that Subject 443 although of part Muslim ancestry may be undesirable subject for media attention due to fair complexion, blond hair, blue eyes, and Anglo-Saxon-sounding name. Please advise.
— 003

Have attempted to carry out Project Egregious as instructed, but have failed to implement suggestions that the subjects carry out jihad against vile American infidels at their work place, possibly because languages spoken by subjects appear to be Zulu and English and I deliver the suggestions as instructed in Pakistani. Subjects appear uninterested and at times irritated. Will continue making suggestions until I receive further instructions. Please advise.
— 774.0

Urgent. Subject 088 has turned me in to local police force as “would-be terrorist,” accusing me of plotting to blow up City Hall, which is what I was encouraging him to do with a fake bomb, unfortunately I was instructing him in detonation practice with small real bombs which are now in his possession. Local officials of county jail where I am incarcerated refuse to listen to me, describing my i.d. as “easily faked” and making remarks such as “Yeah we know how you A-rabs love the USA” and “Tell that to your fucking terrorist pals, wog.” Please advise at earliest opportunity.
— .63

Is this all real? Not just speculation actually confirmed? WTF!

Oh, yes. This is deadly serious.

Deary me...but how does wiki leaks get this information in the first place???

Rape and murder.

That explains it.

Don't forget their team of telepaths, and their genius hacker who calls himself "Rat".

Them too.