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Vince 02-03-2017 07:23 AM

GlitterPanther, the text you mentioned on the bedroll looks to be present in the original image.

But the symbol, does anyone else see 570?
The 5, and 7 are quite clear, but I can faintly make out a 0.
Just me?

I'm going to have a go at messing around with the logo in GIMP.

Edit: the 5 and the 7 are very clear, the 0 not so much, so scratch that.

As far as unresolved figures go, we currently have:

8992
8554
57

Puzzles:
Coordinates x4
Random Mess of Letters x4

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 07:29 AM

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GlitterPanther, the text you mentioned on the bedroll looks to be present in the original image.

But the symbol, does anyone else see 570?
The 5, and 7 are quite clear, but I can faintly make out a 0.
Just me?

I'm going to have a go at messing around with the logo in GIMP.

Edit: the 5 and the 7 are very clear, the 0 not so much, so scratch that.

As far as unresolved figures go, we currently have:

8992
8554
57

I see a 1 in the logo, that's probably the 7 you see

EDIT

Your correct, it is in the original image. Guess it means nothing.

Vince 02-03-2017 07:34 AM

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I see a 1 in the logo, that's probably the 7 you see

Inverted, and Inverted + Threshold.

http://i.imgur.com/1sUS85d.png

Possibly a 1 or a 7.

Good spot on this image though, -- had you not mentioned it, it would have completely flown over my head.

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 07:38 AM

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Inverted, and Inverted + Threshold.

http://i.imgur.com/1sUS85d.png

Possibly a 1 or a 7.

This is how I saw it https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3wSfTuVUAABhnk.jpg

Vince 02-03-2017 07:41 AM

Ohhhhhhhh, no yeah, I see it as well now.
Especially since the top of the '5' looks like it would connect to the top of the '7'.

Xavier 02-03-2017 07:49 AM

Well I'm seeing a 1 too now :p

Vince 02-03-2017 07:51 AM

This isn't the first time the set of numbers; 1, 5, and 7 have turned up (or not turned up).

They're also the numbers missing from the coordinates.


Also, GlitterPanther, can you elaborate on the anomalies you found around the Glukkon's lip?
I can't really make anything out, and you seem to have a knack for it :).

Edit: Odd, I swear I saw the @OddworldInc post a tweet, but as soon as I clicked the little '1 New Tweet' update bar, nothing has been posted for the past 3 hours...

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 08:00 AM

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This isn't the first time the set of numbers; 1, 5, and 7 have turned up (or not turned up).

They're also the numbers missing from the coordinates.


Also, GlitterPanther, can you elaborate on the anomalies you found around the Glukkon's lip?
I can't really make anything out, and you seem to have a knack for it :).

Edit: Odd, I swear I saw the @OddworldInc post a tweet, but as soon as I clicked the little '1 New Tweet' update bar, nothing has been posted for the past 3 hours...

They are in the original image too so probably mean nothing, will to get a screen then EDIT post

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3wYkc8UMAAh2Wh.jpg

Just noticed, the 1029 logo changes location drastically aswell between images

Also made this

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3wbL5uUEAApY8F.png

If you follow just the center line of the logo its a arrow pointing down, maybe it tells us what way to orient the grill

And if you follow that line of thought, turn the logo on the side, it a arrow chocked against its strings inside a ball of fire, but the fire is heading the opposide direction to the arrow, also there twitter username has a flameball beside it

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3wgmnvUoAEe6rm.png

Granitehead96 02-03-2017 10:06 AM

Have you tried taking apart the logo and putting it into the grill spaces?

Granitehead96 02-03-2017 10:07 AM

It might be nothing but you fusion of the grid lead me to see if that was a possibility

Vince 02-03-2017 10:23 AM

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It might be nothing but you fusion of the grid lead me to see if that was a possibility

Welcome to the forum buddy!
It's a bit nonchalant at the moment because we're a bit stumped on what to do with some of the answers we got.

Just a heads up, it's always best to edit your post instead of double-posting :)


@GlitterPanther, I can't make out anything on the Glukkon's face, but yeah, if it was on the original it's probably unimportant.
Then again, the 110110BC etc. were present on the original... but I guess they did seem to lead nowhere.

Xavier 02-03-2017 11:04 AM

No disrespect to anyone here, but looking at the oddworld.com/soulstorm page I think we should focus our attention on the HTML comments and the grid picture.

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Update 1: Looks like there were two barcodes overlaid in the bottom right corner of the amended image, and through decoding the barcode messages into a URL, the community has discovered this mysterious puzzle image on 1029.io. But there're some interesting comments in the HTML source code of that page...
All the previous codes and clues were quite self-contained and I don't see any indication suggesting it would be different for this puzzle :)

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 11:23 AM

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No disrespect to anyone here, but looking at the oddworld.com/soulstorm page I think we should focus our attention on the HTML comments and the grid picture.




All the previous codes and clues were quite self-contained and I don't see any indication suggesting it would be different for this puzzle :)

Got this from google

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3xGtvIVUAA1ToE.jpg


So maybe they wont show in a browser?

So, I took all the words with a - at then end and we get

Anymore-
Kill-
Less-
Told-
Anymore-
Not-
Let-
Way-
Profit-
As-
-lies
Tel-
Believe-
Terribl-

EDIT the whole the source code is written within the HTML comments system, but it still doesnt really help apart from the are telling us its what we need to look at

EDIT 2 Find a way to show the trith is still bugging me, show the truth from the HTML? The truth on the grid?

*brain dies*

Xavier 02-03-2017 12:40 PM

Ok let's start from the top...

We have multiple cryptic codes in the comments, let's try to regroup them:

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A9539 \\
B2919 /\\
C4882 /\
D4627 \
E6758 \
F???? ////

A5989 \\
B5176 \
C2863 \
D2558 //\
E3413 \
F???? ////
We believe those stand for a "mastermind" code and that the ???? stand respectively for 8992 and 8554

:

/\//\\//5,1:4.1,2:8.1,3:2.3,3:2.4,3:3.7,3:3.1,5:3.4,5:9.5,5:2.7,5:4.7,6:6.3,7:3.
\\\\/\2,1:2.3,1:2.6,1:4.1,2:4.3,2:2.3,4:4.5,5:2.6,5:3.7,5:3.4,7:8.5,7:3.7,6:4.
\///\//\1,1:3.4,1:2.6,1:9.2,2:2.6,2:2.2,4:4.3,5:2.5,5:2.7,5:3.4,7:3.6,7:2.7,7:2.
\\//\\\/4,2:6.6,2:4.7,3:3.2,4:8.3,4:2.4,4:2.7,4:3.2,6:2.4,6:3.6,6:2.1,7:4.3,7:2.
Those are most likely coordinates that need to be mapped on the grid, indeed using the x,y:v (or y,x:v) format you can see that x and y stay in the 1-7 range which is the same size as the grid.

The '/' and '\' characters could indicate there is also some kind of mastermind selection to be done on the values as some cells contain multiple values.

My guess is that we somehow need to find which value goes where in the grid and then only keep the cells that have pieces of the logo. By reconstructing the logo we could have an other code with hopefully contains some signification.

:

\\//\/KDIUTHANPUYHHDQOEPLNDOALJGUDITHBBDOZLGFERKJGLSAOE
\////JUTYROSLNGNALEHGNWOTIQPOKSDNTPNOJAWEOBNGLAWKJNWNR
\\\/\\JHWUITUHABSJGNEWKLALNVGJKWELKJLWQQPRUTJHJJSBFMMH
///\\/JQEABTVKNUCSEYCMBILDKOSCYSITECPAGFAXHKETJNZURWCIE
Again the '/' and '\' characters but I don't have a clue on how to start decoding those.

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E=5OUEHRA?
Is this a key to be used? I don't know. :p

:

7777338883366899984477733 33
I've played with this one a bit and came up with the following result by counting the number of same numbers (so 7777 translates to 4 times 7 -> 47)

47 23 38 23 26 18 39 18 24 37 23 10 23

Not sure it will lead us anywhere especially as we have 8 and 9 numbers which means they are not coordinates for the grid.

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 12:44 PM

I have some grids printed out, tell me what to do

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3xbLmyVUAAhMz7.jpg

Vince 02-03-2017 12:57 PM

I just noticed something!

/ \ / / \ \ / /
\ \ \ \ / \
\ / / / \ / / \
\ \ / / \ \ \ /

Separate it into columns and you'll noticed that each column will have 3 '\' and a 1 '/' (give or take, some have 2 but it's typically 1).
I believe that the '\' represents an incorrect value, and the '/' represents a correct value.

We should divide the coordinates and the mess of letters equally by 8(?) and stitch it back together using the correct segments.

Then using the correct segments, we plot the coordinates on a grid, and hopefully decode the mess of letters.

I will begin by trying this on the mess of letters -- as it seems easier :happy:

Edit: it started off strong but it fell flat on it's face immediately...

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 01:14 PM

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I just noticed something!

/ \ / / \ \ / /
\ \ \ \ / \
\ / / / \ / / \
\ \ / / \ \ \ /

Separate it into columns and you'll noticed that each column will have 3 '\' and a 1 '/' (give or take, some have 2 but it's typically 1).
I believe that the '\' represents an incorrect value, and the '/' represents a correct value.

We should divide the coordinates and the mess of letters equally by 8(?) and stitch it back together using the correct segments.

Then using the correct segments, we plot the coordinates on a grid, and hopefully decode the mess of letters.

I will begin by trying this on the mess of letters -- as it seems easier :happy:

Edit: it started off strong but it fell flat on it's face immediately...


Aww! Good try.

I still don't know what im supposed to put in the grid XD

Found this

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3xgIbwUcAEh3_k.jpg

Its got 175!

http://universalmaths.com/magic%20squares/index.html

Vince 02-03-2017 01:22 PM

1, 7, and 5!
We know those ones!

Give a shot! I'm currently creating all of the potential combinations of the mess of letters.
There's probably about 20 or so.

...

So I've created all the combinations for mess of letters and I have 36 different combinations...
Guess I'll try them in quipquip ahah

Edit: as I expected, all of the quipquip results are have provided nothing.
I will now shove them through an anagram.

Edit: the anagram solver has provided no results either...

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 01:38 PM

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1, 7, and 5!
We know those ones!

Give a shot! I'm currently creating all of the potential combinations of the mess of letters.
There's probably about 20 or so.

...

So I've created all the combinations for mess of letters and I have 36 different combinations...
Guess I'll try them in quipquip ahah

Good luck, I cant find any relation between the grid and numbers, like, where you I put 5, 1:4. On a grid with only 49 squares?

Vince 02-03-2017 01:44 PM

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Good luck, I cant find any relation between the grid and numbers, like, where you I put 5, 1:4. On a grid with only 49 squares?

For now, I'd say ignore the '5,' and just use the coordinates/ratio.

Take the first value as the x-axis, and the second value as the y-axis.
So like, 1:4, would be square 41 etc.

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 01:58 PM

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For now, I'd say ignore the '5,' and just use the coordinates/ratio.

Take the first value as the x-axis, and the second value as the y-axis.
So like, 1:4, would be square 41 etc.

Its not gonna work :/
Or at least I cant get it to...

Vince 02-03-2017 02:00 PM

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Its not gonna work :/
Or at least I cant get it to...

Don't worry, everything I did didn't work either ahah :goof:

It does seem that initial figure on the coordinates, represents the order they go in. If this is the case, we are missing number 3.

Edit: In the source, I noticed under the < script > section, after the (function), it says "i, s, o, g, r, a, m,"
Isogram, which is a word or phrase without a repeating letter.

I'm wondering if we make it so we only keep the first instance of a letter for the mess of letters...
Going to give it a go.

MOD EDIT: Apparently I can still edit your post. It did look super wierd, though. Fixed the script tag for you.

Vince 02-03-2017 02:55 PM

Crap... I bugged up my comment and now I can't edit it.
Turns out if you put < script > with no spaces it messes things up.

Basically, in the source it has 'i, s, o, g, r, a, m,'. Isogram, which is a word or phrase without a repeating letter.

I'm going to keep the first instance of a letter for the mess of words and see what I get.


Edit: Interesting, it seems that the 4th line:
:

///\\/JQEABTVKNUCSEYCMBILDKOSCYSITECPAGFAXHKETJNZURWCIE
Is the only line that contains every letter of the alphabet.

:

\\//\/ K D I U T H A N P Y Q O E L J G B Z F R S
\//// J U T Y R O S L N G A E H W I Q P K D B
\\\/\\ J H W U I T A B S G N E K L V Q P R B F M
///\\/ J Q E A B T V K N U C S Y M I L D O P G F X H Z R W
This is the mess of letters with repeat letters removed.
As you can see, I got nothing.

mattb150 02-03-2017 04:36 PM

Hey just noticing this hasn't been posted yet (that I can find),

7777338883366899984477733 33

This is a T9 (cellphone numberpad) cipher. The output is:

SEVENTYTHREE

Note that the output is another two-digit number in all capps, the same way we got 98 in asset98

Edit: This was found by saltybannu over in a Discord (vvv)

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 04:49 PM

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Hey just noticing this hasn't been posted yet (that I can find),

7777338883366899984477733 33

This is a T9 (cellphone numberpad) cipher. The output is:

SEVENTYTHREE

Note that the output is another two-digit number in all capps, the same way we got 98 in asset98

OMG, I was trying T9 earlier in the ARG and it resulted in nothing, and the other day I couldn't get it to work so gave up, great find!

Vince 02-03-2017 04:52 PM

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Hey just noticing this hasn't been posted yet (that I can find),

7777338883366899984477733 33

This is a T9 (cellphone numberpad) cipher. The output is:

SEVENTYTHREE

That's brand new! Nice find!

As a final update before I call it quits for today, the current answers we have (but not sure how to use them yet) are:

8992
8554
73 (SEVENTYTHREE)

Courtesy of Dawlthy, and of course Mattb150.

Current unsolved puzzles:

Coordinates x4
Mess of Letters x4
E=5OUEHRA?
(still)
57 (?) Courtesy of GlitterPanther.
And maybe the 'Isogram'?

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Xavier's Recap


GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 05:06 PM

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That's brand new! Nice find!

As a final update before I call it quits for today, the current answers we have (but not sure how to use them yet) are:

8992
8554
73 (SEVENTYTHREE)

Courtesy of Dawlthy, and of course Mattb150.

Current unsolved puzzles:

Coordinates x4
Mess of Letters x4
E=5OUEHRA?
(still)
57 (?) Courtesy of GlitterPanther.
And maybe the 'Isogram'?

I did wonder what that isogram thing was about...

But I didnt guess 57, that was you?

Also lets guess that OUEHRA is an isogram and that E=5 that means O = 3 U=4 H=6 R=7 A=8

If im understanding correctly how this works

Vince 02-03-2017 05:29 PM

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I did wonder what that isogram thing was about...

But I didnt guess 57, that was you?

Also lets guess that OUEHRA is an isogram and that E=5 that means O = 3 U=4 H=6 R=7 A=8

If im understanding correctly how this works

Yeah, but you were the first to post the image.
I can't remember who saw the 57 first, to be honest :goof:

You might be onto something.
As E IS the fifth letter of the alphabet. So there might be something in this.

It's probably already been posted but their respective letters in the alphabet:
15-21-5-8-18-1


Now I'm actually going to head off, and expect to wake up tomorrow with a solved puzzle!

This was the link to the Image 1 fragments:
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...rofourfiveone/

Just in case it gives anyone a lightbulb.

GlitterPanther 02-03-2017 05:38 PM

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Yeah, but you were the first to post the image.
I can't remember who saw the 57 first, to be honest :goof:

You might be onto something.
As E IS the fifth letter of the alphabet. So there might be something in this.

It's probably already been posted but their respective letters in the alphabet:
15-21-5-8-18-1


Just in case it gives anyone a lightbulb.

Ok. Yeah, I know there numbers, but with a isogram.cipher from what I understand the first letter represents 1, but they said E=5 so I worked off that, so iv probably done it wrong

So more correct OUEHRA would be O=1 U=2 E=3 H=4 R=5 A=6

But then the whole E=5 clue ruins it

Also, with a isogram your the supposed to take the code and work it off the isogram, so lets take HHR and covert that to dollars, using the above isogram its $445, its apparently used in marketing so people can tell the base cost of an item during sale without the customer knowing

Also wikipedia says 12 letter isograms can be used to work out months of a year

We got strings of 12 numbers before

Its all so confusing

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogram

The other conclusion is Isogram is just a google analytics thing, it is on most oddworld pages source code and not specific to this

Gunnr 02-03-2017 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=Vince;629270]Yeah, but you were the first to post the image.
I can't remember who saw the 57 first, to be honest :goof:

You might be onto something.
As E IS the fifth letter of the alphabet. So there might be something in this.

It's probably already been posted but their respective letters in the alphabet:
15-21-5-8-18-1


Now I'm actually going to head off, and expect to wake up tomorrow with a solved puzzle!

This was the link to the Image 1 fragments:
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...rofourfiveone/


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http://i.imgur.com/K6wQoomm.png

Looks like there's a 5 and a 7 in the logo


And goodmorning! wow you guys got alot of interesting stuff!

I think that was me :p

Wow you guys are working hard! I'm pretty stumped hard core :p

Maybe ask owi_alex something? A hint maybe?