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T-nex 08-25-2011 03:24 AM

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The point being that drug addiction isn't a personal freedom, it's an addiction.

If I saw a friend of mine suffering from drug addiction I wouldn't sit idly by and doing nothing, then later tell him 'Oh sorry I wasn't aware you were suffering. I was respecting your autonomy.'

That's just an excuse to do nothing. Addiction is never a freedom.

If someone wants to be addicted, they have the right to be addicted.
Cigarette smokers have the right to be addicted too.

But that's not what I was saying anyway. I dont get why everytime someone mentions freedom + drugs it has to be about addiction and 'oh no'.

Plenty of drugs aren't addictive. Not all drugs are heroin.

And as I said, if the person asks for help, they should have it. The population should receive proper education about sensitive matters such as these, and there should be plenty of way to get help and stuff.

I wouldn't just sit idly by and not help someone if they had an addiction either. But you can't force someone to stop something unless it hurts others.

Manco 08-25-2011 03:31 AM

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If someone wants to be addicted, they have the right to be addicted.
Cigarette smokers have the right to be addicted too.

You’re confusing “wants to get addicted” with “wants to take drugs”.

People don’t take drugs to get addicted, people don’t want to be addicted to things. They want to experience the short-term effects the drugs have on their mind and body, not the debilitating long-term ones.

T-nex 08-25-2011 03:35 AM

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You’re confusing “wants to get addicted” with “wants to take drugs”.

People don’t take drugs to get addicted, people don’t want to be addicted to things. They want to experience the short-term effects the drugs have on their mind and body, not the debilitating long-term ones.

Well I friggin know this. I was responding to Joe. He chose to mention extremes, so Im responding with extremes. And my "extreme" opinion is that if someone took drugs, and got addicted, but they dont wanna do anything about it, we cant force them to unless they become a nuisance. Just like smokers. just.... more extreme.

Wings of Fire 08-25-2011 03:44 AM

If someone I knew changed into a different person through an addiction and if their life went up the shitter purely because of their addiction then I would consider helping them in any way I can to be my duty as a friend.

That's what constitutes as harmful to self for me, not as simple as 'Taking drugs is auto harmful'.

T-nex 08-25-2011 03:51 AM

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If someone I knew changed into a different person through an addiction and if their life went up the shitter purely because of their addiction then I would consider helping them in any way I can to be my duty as a friend.

That's what constitutes as harmful to self for me, not as simple as 'Taking drugs is auto harmful'.

Yea well... it's still an extreme, i think everyone can agree that if it gets as bad as someone's life going to the shitter, then it's something that should be helped.
Whether that's just a human duty or should be enforced by law, i dunno.

But it wasn't my original point, and I seriously dislike including extremes in these conversations when it's unneeded, because these are one of those things that are kind of a given, and they sort of require threads on their own.

I merely wanted to point out that i would get rid of intolerance to personal freedoms(as long as they remain personal or consented to).

MA 08-25-2011 08:22 PM

T-nex is causing shit again.

god sake.

T-nex 08-26-2011 03:09 AM

Nuh uh! I just get annoyed that I can't express myself properly without being misunderstood(or misunderstand what Im reading for that matter)... ._. I don't mean to cause shit.

Also I feel really strongly about personal choices.

sorry x_x

MA 08-26-2011 08:37 AM

i was just shit-stirring.

you cause the shit, and i stir it.

Dixanadu 08-26-2011 11:21 AM

The mental image MA conjured should be cast in the far corner of Room 102.

T-nex 08-26-2011 11:33 AM

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i was just shit-stirring.

you cause the shit, and i stir it.


Well sometimes we need some shit amongst the pretty flowers ._.

Bullet Magnet 08-26-2011 12:50 PM

My squabble sense is tingling. Anyone call for shit-shoveller?

STM 08-26-2011 12:56 PM

In truth he's crying while typing because that's his real life job. Oh BM.

Bullet Magnet 08-26-2011 03:38 PM

It's not that bad.

STM 08-26-2011 03:58 PM

Hell there's a whole biology world in poop I couldn't even scratch the surface of.

Manco 08-26-2011 04:02 PM

Couldn’t or wouldn’t?

STM 08-26-2011 04:03 PM

...wouldn't. =( Sorry OH, I've failed you.

MA 08-26-2011 05:02 PM

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Well sometimes we need some shit amongst the pretty flowers ._.

I WAS JOKING

I HAVE NO OPINION ON THE MATTER

LEAVE ME ALONE


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My squabble sense is tingling. Anyone call for shit-shoveller?

i wanted shit-shoveller as my CT, but it wasn't allowed.

T-nex 08-26-2011 05:12 PM

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I WAS JOKING

I HAVE NO OPINION ON THE MATTER

LEAVE ME ALONE

Well sometimes we simply need to be without opinion in an opinion-filled thread.

MA 08-26-2011 06:02 PM

are you trolling me or are you actually serious? i honestly can't work it out.

Havoc 08-26-2011 06:04 PM

I can't figure any woman out. Let alone T-nex.

T-nex 08-26-2011 06:12 PM

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are you trolling me or are you actually serious? i honestly can't work it out.

Not serious.

Yeap.

._.

The confusion over when I'm serious and when not goes into room 102! Shoooo!

Havoc 08-26-2011 06:19 PM

*throws T-nex's clothes in after the confusion.* Har har!

T-nex 08-26-2011 06:19 PM

*throws Havocs eyes in* haar haar!

Havoc 08-26-2011 06:21 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ph0Z7XGUoi..._by_mocube.jpg

Nepsotic 08-27-2011 12:02 AM

Can't accept havocs eyes, let alone t-nex's clothes, as for the confusion thing, are you being serious?

T-nex 08-27-2011 01:24 AM

Hey you don't decide what goes in!

I throw in your legs.

Nepsotic 08-27-2011 01:29 AM

So now i'm pretty much a shop window mannequin?

STM 08-27-2011 01:57 AM

Just be glad she didn't throw you in whole. T-Nex's evil tirade continues...

MA 08-27-2011 03:46 AM

i'll throw in T-nex's goddamn smiley-face things.

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T-nex 08-27-2011 04:03 AM

I like ._. so Im keeping it.