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Max is a nice guy but he's generally an idiot. His arguments regarding anything he does are paper thin. When I found out he hunted I had to do a double-take, it seems to go against his "persona" (or at least the persona he tries to portray to all the girls on the internets with his Sweeney Todd hair-stripe and his listing of Twilight under his "favorite reads" section).
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Only idiots (read: hunters in general) try to justify their animal killing with 'honor' and 'population culling'. The few times I've went, always with someone else, the other person would always try to justify what he was doing. Made no sense to me. I had no problem saying I was doing it for the meat. And no, I wasn't "taking" the animal. I was shooting it. I was killing it.
I've only ever went after deer or turkeys. We have plenty of both. And I really love the taste of venison. A lot. I heard about buffalo hunting in certain, regulated areas. That shit's disturbing. |
You have buffalo?
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Disillusioned. |
and why is he always wincing?
or is that a nervous twitch. |
Kind of shady looking, isn't he? Let's keep our eyes on this guy.
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OANST, you're the shadiest one here.
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Fact is I don't have a shadow. ;)
Does that make me some kind of creature of the night as has been supposed? |
To Catch a Predator: Pilot Edition.
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How many people are going to have Turkey or Chicken for Thanksgiving/Christmas?
Think you can catch one yourself? Good luck matey! |
Alert: Idiot argument spotted!
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Since this topic's been brought up again...I'll firstly say I don't get Alex's earlier argument that it's ok to hunt animaals because an animal killing a human baby is horrendous. It just seems sort of hypocritical. I get that the death a of a baby is bad but, that's not a reason to hunt animals.
Also, Psychocath, if you are honestly likening euthanising a pet to hunting you clearly have no experience of the former. We had to put down our 20 year old cat in September, because she was dying slowly and painfully and had stopped eating, and was stopping drinking too. It was the most painful experience of my life. That is not remotely comparable to hunting, and to think so is simply astounding. |
So, this dead horse has been beaten long enough. I won't whine about how horrible it is to kill a baboon. What I will say, is that the only fucking hunting I will ever respect will be of the easter egg variety. GRAM GRAM REALLY HIDES EM
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whats wrong with hunting they just animals:fuzconf:
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Moral choices are so much simpler when you live in dutch.
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Yeah, you dutchinese have it easy.
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Meh, I couldn´t be arsed to read all six fucking pages of this.
It´s malevolent, so it´s rather close to "evil" IMO. He wanted to know what it´s like to kill a human? Fucking sociopath. For once, I agree with Havoc. I don´t like killing, even for necessity, and that´s why I´ve come very close to becoming a vegan at some points. If the whole world suddenly outlawed meat consumption, I would get along fine. I just think of the film Fast Food Nation and seeing that cow about to have the only existence it will ever know snuffed out of it, and then taken a part just to sustain us indulge our appetites. As for helping the ecosystem, like Chris pointed out, I guess it´s justified since humans have probably done their part in bringing the ecosystem to that point. But I don´t know. Yeah, I really did have to add in my .02. |
See, I read a really good article by the internationally renowned ethicist Peter Singer back in April on the rights of animals. I gave up around halfway through because it was becoming increasingly obvious that the man was a militant vegan, but I think I should go back and give it another shot.
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I'm a vegetarian, actually.
Anyway, killing a baboon for absolutely no reason is just plain sick (I have no idea if I've posted on this thread before). Oh, he had a reason, but it wasn't a good one so I don't count it. And the way animals are treated is so horrible. I don't know if you've ever seen battery chickens... OOPS I'm not a vegetarian who hates people who eat meat; I don't care what people eat. I just think it's horrible how (some) people treat animals. People who hunt for fun, or, more properly, because it gives them a feeling of power and superiority, I just can't understand. Now people hunting for food - I'm all for that, provided they don't do anything like picking rabbits up by their hind legs and bashing them against walls. That's the way animals should be caught, not locked in tiny cages all their miserable lives, sitting in their own dung. I won't even go into pigs... OOPS |
Come on, man. No one wants to see that shit.
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also, i do not agree with hunting for fun, but i definitely do not agree that farming is in the same league, because i know it isn't. and like i said before; :
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I didn't mean all farms, I meant battery farms. I though I said that :fuzconf:
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you mentioned pigs. there is no such thing as a battery farmed pig. it is either farmed and called a 'pig unit', or factory farmed and called 'fucking cruel'. i assumed you didn't know about the latter and thought that picture was pig farming, which it looked like it wasn't.
actually, could i have the link to that pig picture you posted? because that could have simply been a couple of pigs that had died naturally (diseases/scouring) and kept in a pen out the way until being transported for incineration. i can't remember the picture properly. |
I lost it. Anyway, I've read about this stuff and seen a lot of pictures and - yes, 'factory farmed' is the correct term, anyway pigs die all the time because there's no light, they're crowded, they're fed chemicals to make 'em grow faster... and I'm fairly sure they still chop up those dead pigs for meat.
And kangaroo hunting here in Australia is fucking awful. They kill millions every year, the kangaroos are dying out... they're not allowed to shoot them in the neck, because they do slowly, but the perverted bastards do it deliberately because it makes 'em bleed and the meat's better. They lop the kangaroo heads off and sell as "KANGAROO MEAT!" to the tourists. Battery chickens have their beaks chopped off, they have about ten chickens per cubic foot and they live in their own poo. They feed them growth hormones so the grow up quickly and die even quicker. |