I like keeping the original concept of things but I also intend to try and attempt to make new machines and such... hopefully... xD

CheckerBoardTexture. And perfect cam files.




And then.
How about necrum mines background objects?

Awesome art work and levels :D Its like a brand new game :)


What appears to be the most annoying things at the moment? Lack of keyboard shortcuts?

Guess you'll never be using the editor then. Eletric walls are not programmed in the game to move, hence why none of them in the game move :P And why I can't somehow magically cause the editor to make them start moving either.


Are you aware that its not possible to add more collision paths than is already in the level? The only way this could work is allowing you to delete collision items and then re-add them later (e.g if you delete 2 then you can only "add" 2 new points).

Edit: Btw thought I would point out there won't be many updates for awhile since I'm extremely busy at the moment. I also want to get a website up at some point too so my stuff is all in one place and people don't have to hunt through thread(s) to find things.

Then i need the worlds best oddworld fangame clone to 100% as open source. Or you should reverse how the mine drills work exactly and then apply it to whatever object you want to move, forth and back in a loop you know.

A wordpress blog or a simplemachines forum?

The next two weeks will make no huge progress then.:fuzsad:

I think a while means longer than 2 weeks.

6 weeks?

It could be as long as a few months.

Luckily the current path editor has most of the functions of a full AO path editor.

If there's a will, there's a way.

And if this were the case, then how exactly would the creators of this game get by then? obviously they added collision paths somehow, so there must be a way to somehow discover this little secret buried somewhere in all that coding mumbo-jumbo.

also, thanks about the comment about my map! :D

Have you tried IDA PRO? http://www.hex-rays.com/idapro/

A half year or more?

I haven't got a clue about hex editing. I was just saying though, I'm sure there is a way somehow to create these collision paths one way or another.

Hex to decimal:
00 = 00
01 = 01
02 = 02
03 = 03
04 = 04
05 = 05
06 = 06
07 = 07
08 = 08
09 = 09
0A = 10
0B = 11
0C = 12
0D = 13
0E = 14
0F = 15
10 = 16
11 = 17
12 = 18
13 = 19
14 = 20
15 = 21
16 = 22
17 = 23
18 = 24
19 = 25
1A = 26
1B = 27
1C = 28
1D = 29
1E = 30
1F = 31

That's not really helping many people who have no idea how to code or anything. :p

Pretty much.

Requests: Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V for Copy/Pasting, or one single shortcut that clones the selected item instead (Spacebar maybe?)
+ and - for zooming in and out

You also forgot Delete for.... Delete.... xD

Oh god yes, I find it very annoying with the Delete button not working on my keyboard :D

I'll see if I can throw these in today, if not it won't be for a while ;) Btw on the decimal to hex thing..

Hex is base 16, a "normal"/decimal number to most people is base 10, and binary is base 2 (hex is a shorthand way of writing binary numbers)

If you learn how to use base N then using any other is simple, A-F is only used since base 16 needs 16 unique numbers/identifiers which runs out after 0-9 :P

If you google some basic math junk about it you'll see its very easy.

Did you see this paul?

http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...postcount=1531

just some small changes that a few people wanted but I put together into a post.

Yeah but I won't have time to do all those, I've at least enabled keyboard short cuts for now :/

I'll prob just end up releasing that later, but I think snapping to grid/handling of collision items needs to be improved next. Oh btw I'll try to add an "automatic" option in the "screen to load" in too.

One little thing that bothers me is how snapping to the grid is always turned on at the startup, but it's hardly that taxing to just switch it off lol (maybe that's just me liking how I can drag stuff everywhere as opposed to a grid).

Here is version 0.6.

Changelog from readme:

+ Added shortcut keys
+ Disabled snapping by default (its somewhat buggy anyway)
+ Cleaned up AO uxb docs and added an image
+ Added statusbar messages

Thanks for version 0.6



Feature requests:


+ Selecting a bunch of obejcts with left click button.

+ Copy and paste a selected bunch of objects while holding shift and dragging with the left lick mouse button.

+ Selecting all objects with Ctrl + A

+ Selecting all collisions with Ctrl + D

+ Panning with middle mouse button.

+ View only objects

+ View only collisions

+ View only background

+ View only foreground

+ Connecting a switch to a slamdoor or more by using visual wires.

Yes!



That would get extremely eye-ravaging to look at. I oppose this idea. I'm fine with the current system. (Trigger Object, ID's)

EDIT: I tried launching v0.6 but it crashes with the following message.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/392/mingw10.png
Upon inspecting the folder of the editor and comparing it to older ones (0.2 and 0.5) I noticed a case of, well, missing DLLs.

Mines working fine... weird...

I updated the tools download I had up in the level editing help thread to have 0.6 in the files instead of being stuck at 0.5 (I'll update it whenever Paul updates his tools). This includes all the necessary .dll and works, and I removed the junk files that I accidentally left in the previous one.

I found something interesting. You know the LED guide signs that have messages like "To run, Hold shift and press left or right" Well, I figured out where those messages are stored. Problem is, if you edit them in notepad and save, it will corrupt the exe...

Only if there were some way to change this inside the editor...

Open the AbeWin.exe in notepad (it will take a little while for it to load if you haven't loaded it before...)

Scroll down and you'll come across this:
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1294646224

I would recommend that you Use a Hex editor instead of notepad, it loads everything instantly and won't corrupt the executable.

Hey. Yea, like Mou5e said, use a hex editor. Here are a few tips on editing the exe. http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=370

I know absolutely nothing at all when it comes to hex editing and I'm not even gonna bother trying to learn it again... tried twice and couldn't stand it... I'll just stick to my graphical designing! :D

The problem isn't that we didn't know where the LED messages were, it's that we knew they're in the game .exe and not the .lvl files, and therefore any modifications we make can't be distributed without basically distributing the game for free.

technically, it's not the actuall game itself if it doesn't contain any of the actual levels. It's basically just a user-made full game mod. It's just an engine basically that's being distributed, Not the game.

We could always just ship mods with the appropriate code to be pasted into the .exe.

I can't wait until the editor is a bit more stable, I think it could completely reinvigorate the game for me.