Welcome to the forum buddy!
It's a bit nonchalant at the moment because we're a bit stumped on what to do with some of the answers we got.

Just a heads up, it's always best to edit your post instead of double-posting :)


@GlitterPanther, I can't make out anything on the Glukkon's face, but yeah, if it was on the original it's probably unimportant.
Then again, the 110110BC etc. were present on the original... but I guess they did seem to lead nowhere.

No disrespect to anyone here, but looking at the oddworld.com/soulstorm page I think we should focus our attention on the HTML comments and the grid picture.

All the previous codes and clues were quite self-contained and I don't see any indication suggesting it would be different for this puzzle :)

Got this from google

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3xGtvIVUAA1ToE.jpg


So maybe they wont show in a browser?

So, I took all the words with a - at then end and we get

Anymore-
Kill-
Less-
Told-
Anymore-
Not-
Let-
Way-
Profit-
As-
-lies
Tel-
Believe-
Terribl-

EDIT the whole the source code is written within the HTML comments system, but it still doesnt really help apart from the are telling us its what we need to look at

EDIT 2 Find a way to show the trith is still bugging me, show the truth from the HTML? The truth on the grid?

*brain dies*

Ok let's start from the top...

We have multiple cryptic codes in the comments, let's try to regroup them:

We believe those stand for a "mastermind" code and that the ???? stand respectively for 8992 and 8554

Those are most likely coordinates that need to be mapped on the grid, indeed using the x,y:v (or y,x:v) format you can see that x and y stay in the 1-7 range which is the same size as the grid.

The '/' and '\' characters could indicate there is also some kind of mastermind selection to be done on the values as some cells contain multiple values.

My guess is that we somehow need to find which value goes where in the grid and then only keep the cells that have pieces of the logo. By reconstructing the logo we could have an other code with hopefully contains some signification.

Again the '/' and '\' characters but I don't have a clue on how to start decoding those.

Is this a key to be used? I don't know. :p

I've played with this one a bit and came up with the following result by counting the number of same numbers (so 7777 translates to 4 times 7 -> 47)

47 23 38 23 26 18 39 18 24 37 23 10 23

Not sure it will lead us anywhere especially as we have 8 and 9 numbers which means they are not coordinates for the grid.

I have some grids printed out, tell me what to do

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3xbLmyVUAAhMz7.jpg

I just noticed something!

/ \ / / \ \ / /
\ \ \ \ / \
\ / / / \ / / \
\ \ / / \ \ \ /

Separate it into columns and you'll noticed that each column will have 3 '\' and a 1 '/' (give or take, some have 2 but it's typically 1).
I believe that the '\' represents an incorrect value, and the '/' represents a correct value.

We should divide the coordinates and the mess of letters equally by 8(?) and stitch it back together using the correct segments.

Then using the correct segments, we plot the coordinates on a grid, and hopefully decode the mess of letters.

I will begin by trying this on the mess of letters -- as it seems easier :happy:

Edit: it started off strong but it fell flat on it's face immediately...

Aww! Good try.

I still don't know what im supposed to put in the grid XD

Found this

https://pbs-0.twimg.com/media/C3xgIbwUcAEh3_k.jpg

Its got 175!

http://universalmaths.com/magic%20squares/index.html

1, 7, and 5!
We know those ones!

Give a shot! I'm currently creating all of the potential combinations of the mess of letters.
There's probably about 20 or so.

...

So I've created all the combinations for mess of letters and I have 36 different combinations...
Guess I'll try them in quipquip ahah

Edit: as I expected, all of the quipquip results are have provided nothing.
I will now shove them through an anagram.

Edit: the anagram solver has provided no results either...

Good luck, I cant find any relation between the grid and numbers, like, where you I put 5, 1:4. On a grid with only 49 squares?

For now, I'd say ignore the '5,' and just use the coordinates/ratio.

Take the first value as the x-axis, and the second value as the y-axis.
So like, 1:4, would be square 41 etc.

Its not gonna work :/
Or at least I cant get it to...

Don't worry, everything I did didn't work either ahah :goof:

It does seem that initial figure on the coordinates, represents the order they go in. If this is the case, we are missing number 3.

Edit: In the source, I noticed under the < script > section, after the (function), it says "i, s, o, g, r, a, m,"
Isogram, which is a word or phrase without a repeating letter.

I'm wondering if we make it so we only keep the first instance of a letter for the mess of letters...
Going to give it a go.

MOD EDIT: Apparently I can still edit your post. It did look super wierd, though. Fixed the script tag for you.

Crap... I bugged up my comment and now I can't edit it.
Turns out if you put < script > with no spaces it messes things up.

Basically, in the source it has 'i, s, o, g, r, a, m,'. Isogram, which is a word or phrase without a repeating letter.

I'm going to keep the first instance of a letter for the mess of words and see what I get.


Edit: Interesting, it seems that the 4th line:
Is the only line that contains every letter of the alphabet.

This is the mess of letters with repeat letters removed.
As you can see, I got nothing.

Hey just noticing this hasn't been posted yet (that I can find),

7777338883366899984477733 33

This is a T9 (cellphone numberpad) cipher. The output is:

SEVENTYTHREE

Note that the output is another two-digit number in all capps, the same way we got 98 in asset98

Edit: This was found by saltybannu over in a Discord (vvv)

OMG, I was trying T9 earlier in the ARG and it resulted in nothing, and the other day I couldn't get it to work so gave up, great find!

That's brand new! Nice find!

As a final update before I call it quits for today, the current answers we have (but not sure how to use them yet) are:

8992
8554
73 (SEVENTYTHREE)

Courtesy of Dawlthy, and of course Mattb150.

Current unsolved puzzles:

Coordinates x4
Mess of Letters x4
E=5OUEHRA?
(still)
57 (?) Courtesy of GlitterPanther.
And maybe the 'Isogram'?

I did wonder what that isogram thing was about...

But I didnt guess 57, that was you?

Also lets guess that OUEHRA is an isogram and that E=5 that means O = 3 U=4 H=6 R=7 A=8

If im understanding correctly how this works

Yeah, but you were the first to post the image.
I can't remember who saw the 57 first, to be honest :goof:

You might be onto something.
As E IS the fifth letter of the alphabet. So there might be something in this.

It's probably already been posted but their respective letters in the alphabet:
15-21-5-8-18-1


Now I'm actually going to head off, and expect to wake up tomorrow with a solved puzzle!

This was the link to the Image 1 fragments:
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...rofourfiveone/

Just in case it gives anyone a lightbulb.

Ok. Yeah, I know there numbers, but with a isogram.cipher from what I understand the first letter represents 1, but they said E=5 so I worked off that, so iv probably done it wrong

So more correct OUEHRA would be O=1 U=2 E=3 H=4 R=5 A=6

But then the whole E=5 clue ruins it

Also, with a isogram your the supposed to take the code and work it off the isogram, so lets take HHR and covert that to dollars, using the above isogram its $445, its apparently used in marketing so people can tell the base cost of an item during sale without the customer knowing

Also wikipedia says 12 letter isograms can be used to work out months of a year

We got strings of 12 numbers before

Its all so confusing

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogram

The other conclusion is Isogram is just a google analytics thing, it is on most oddworld pages source code and not specific to this

[QUOTE=Vince;629270]Yeah, but you were the first to post the image.
I can't remember who saw the 57 first, to be honest :goof:

You might be onto something.
As E IS the fifth letter of the alphabet. So there might be something in this.

It's probably already been posted but their respective letters in the alphabet:
15-21-5-8-18-1


Now I'm actually going to head off, and expect to wake up tomorrow with a solved puzzle!

This was the link to the Image 1 fragments:
http://www.1029.io/repository/asset9...rofourfiveone/


I think that was me :p

Wow you guys are working hard! I'm pretty stumped hard core :p

Maybe ask owi_alex something? A hint maybe?

I could be wrong, but I think the isogram thing you guys are talking about in the comments has to do with Google Adsense & not with the puzzle. That is what the <\!--Google Analytics--> tag means. <\!-- is how you open a comment, or text not seen on the page, in HTML, and Google Analytics is the marketing branch of Google. Just my two cents.

\ added so my comment actually shows up... lol

I think I've solved the ouehra bit. Well partly at least.

It's the second letters of the days of the week, like this

mOnday
tUesday
wEdnesday
tHursday
fRiday
sAturday

In this case the question mark at the end is in place of another U, for sUnday

Also my phone really isn't happy typing days of the week without a capital letter at the start, that took way longer to type than it should

Edit: just realised this doesn't explain the e=5 bit, Wednesday isn't the 5th day of the week? But days are another thing that there are 7 of. We now have a 7x7 grid, the numbers without 1, 5 and 7 (leaving just 7numbers in the 1-9 range) and 7 days. We also have 3 strings of 49 letters which is 7 x 7, so I think the 4th string might be missing a letter.

I think there must be some way of assigning numbers to the other days of the week

The word "isogram" is part of a standard Google Analytics code, they have nothing to do with the ARG. The same codes for everything else in that script tag.

I've just been putting numbers in the grid again, using the numbers before the : as the coordinates and then writing the number after the : into the square.

After doing just the first set of numbers, the grid reminded me of a game I had played a long time ago, but I can't remember what it's called now. The game involved drawing lines, starting in each box with a number in, and the number specified how long the line had to be. You had to fill the whole grid without overlapping lines.

Interestingly this first set of numbers seems to have a valid solution. I know my explanation is very bad, but I have attached my solution to the game.
14432

All done in the finest MS paint with the pencil tool:)

The only problem is that the result is not the only possible valid one, although it very nearly is. The only bits that could be changed for another valid result would be the two lines of length 3 in the bottom left. This makes me think it might just be a coincidence and im on the wrong track completely.

Also it doesn't really show much at the moment, not anything helpful anyway. Maybe the other sets of coordinated create lines to overlay on top of these?

I'm now going to try the second set to see what happens there.

EDIT:
Well that idea was a complete failure, doesn't work at all with the second set of numbers.

Yep.

Just want to pick up on this to say that 1029.io/repository/asset73 returns a 404 page, which differs from the asset98 directory.

Perhaps the E=5 bit is telling us the value for the U of sunday?
So:
E=5
H=6
R=7
A=1
U=2
O=3
U=4 (Tuesday?)

You're definitely on to something with the days of the week though, it can't be just a coincidence that it fits.

You might be onto something with the 7x7 grid with the numbers as well. I'm going to have a go at it now.

I’m trying to catch up on this just now, and this happens to sound somewhat like a Bifid cipher?

In terms of a grid being used to transpose a message into numbers.

I think we're onto something, but we're left with only 6 values: '2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9,' which doesn't fit onto our 7x7 grid.

Edit: Never mind, scratch that point.

Here's the first grid:

http://i.imgur.com/DCfO6Ie.png

Using Dawlthy's first set of coordinates:

I've attempted to do the first set of Dawlthy's coordinates and got the result:
AZIHBOOJLDDI
Edit: Tried all 25 cipher ceaser variants in quipquip and an anagram solver and found nothing.
Will try the other 3 coordinates.

I have not used the second values after the colons.

Out of curiosity, can anyone see any words into this? Crossword puzzle-wise.

Further edit: applied all four coordinates to the grid and got:
AZIHBOOJLDDI
GLOZGLLNDUTD
JSOLRAELDUHA
FROALJDPYHKI

Looks like nothing...

F. Further Edit: separated the letters into the their group number after the colon:
2. IHLGLGLSLRELHALJPHI
3. BOOINDTJDUODY
4. ADOZLDARK
6. DF
8. ZUA
9. JO

Still looks like nothing.

I don't know why I didn't think of doing that myself. Glad I didn't now though:D Also I want to point out that those might not really be coordinates at all, that just my interpretation. I don't want to be misleading you if it turns out to be wrong

Ahah yeah, I think this a wild goose chase.
I'm not going to bother with the other 3 sets of 'coordinates' :goof: and just say I got no results, at the end of this we'll end up with 16 different results -- it can't be the way to go!

Those slashes /\ have got to mean something though...

I'm sure the slashes are connected to the 'mastermind' cipher. They're telling us that some things are in the right place,and some other things are the right number/letter but in the wrong place.

The slashes could also relate to the grid image and be telling us that some of the squares are in the wrong place, but that's obvious because of the image, so unless it has to be rearranged to form something other than the logo it doesn't help at the moment.

The problems are working out what the slashes apply to and what order to read them in. Do they apply to the text string/coordinate set they appear next to? if so there's not enough information to work out a definite answer unless Ii'm doing it wrong.

In the two puzzles that have been solved, the forward slashes (if there are any) always appear before the backslashes for that line. In the number/letter lines they are mixed up like
/\//\\//

That makes me wonder if they are supposed to be separated onto multiple lines somehow. Not sure where to go now but I'll keep looking.

For reference, I went through the numbers in the coordinates and annotated them to the grid.

Red numbers are from the first set of coordinates:
Pink numbers are from the second:
Green numbers are from the third:
Blue are from the fourth:
I hope this is of help to someone, it doesn’t make much immediate sense to me.

Analysis:

Areas where number overlap with the image tiles:

• 1,1 (3)
• 2,1 (2)
• 5,5 (4)
• 3,2 (2)
• 6,2 (2/4)
• 4,4 (2)
• 6,5 (3)
• 2,6 (2)
• 4,6 (3)
• 7,6 (6/4)
• 6,7 (2)

Areas with multiple numbers in a single space:

• 6,1 (9/4)
• 1,2 (8/4)
• 6,2 (2/4)
• 7,3 (3/3)
• 2,4 (4/8)
• 3,4 (2/4)
• 5,5 (2/2/2)
• 7,5 (4/3/3)
• 7,6 (6/4)
• 3,7 (3/2)
• 4,7 (3/8)

Do you think this puzzle will involve moving the pieces around with the numbers staying fixed to each piece? I could probably find someone to write up a script to do it online somewhere, if that would be helpful. As in where the grid is there and the pieces can be dragged around with the numbers on them via mouse to rearrange them and see possible combinations. Would take a few hours though. Great graphic regardless!

You could try the plethora of 'Sliding Puzzle Creators' online?
I can't find one that allows you to make a 7x7 puzzle though...

I doubt it's the right direction to go in though... We're definitely drawing at straws now I think :goof:

That’s a possibility, but that would also call into question why there are tiles which contain a section of the graphic but without any numbers in.

There’s 3 sections which have a graphic segment but no number: (2,3), (6,3) and (1,4).

Hey everyone, I was looking over the slashes again

Is it a concidence that ever number that has two \\ always has two nines in it?
Sure the spacing changes, but the rules stay

Example
A9539 \\
B2919 /\\
A5989 \\

\ = a 7, 3 , 4, 2 or 1

D4627 \
E6758 \
B5176 \
C2863 \

// together = 55

D2558 //\

\ represents the two so 552

/\ always represents 8

So lets translate

A9539 \\ 99

B2919 /\\ 299

C4882 /\ 8, 88 or , 24

D4627 \ = 4, 6, 7 ,or 2, which represents the number mixed

E6758 \ Most likely 7

Notice the slashes are essentialy repeating the same numbers but in code

So lets take

\\//\\\/

99559945?
44554445?
2?82?
99552227
5?8?7
E?8?

Lets segement into possible variations

\, \, /, /, \, \, \,/ possible 7. Number string
\\,//,\\,\/ 99,55,99,?
\\/, /\, \\/
\, \//,\\,\/ 1625 in roman numerals (but not the code)
\,\//, \, \, \, /
\,\//, \, \\/ 1614 in roman numeral (but not the code)

I hope this is making sense, there are some gaps because certain combinations are multiple or we dont have a reference like what \/ means other that 42 or 25

There is a method, I just cant work it right

Here what I know

\\ = 3 or 9 High change (1 and 4 on other strings)
/\ = 8
/ = 2 or 4
\ = 2, 4, 6 or 7
\/ either 24 or 42 or, 2,4 or 4,2 or 25
// = 5, 55 or maybe 1 and 7 on others

I think they all combied give is reference so while

// might be 55 and one string
It could represent 7 and 1 on another

It either covers both 6 number lots
Or it uses the same method but differs between and thats why I get some mistakes.

Thats the only slightest sense I can make
Any thoughts?

Alternatively the numbers on the grid got me thinking
Number maze?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...tG9tB-pcjYkhsO

Alright, im off. Have fun.

I'd just like to say that you guys at Game Detectives are doing an incredible job keeping everything together.

http://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index...orld_Soulstorm

Finally have some free time! I've been looking forward to working on these clues again! :D


You know, this gives me an idea...
I'm thinking the coordinate puzzle might just have two different codes worked into it. I think part of it may be filling up the grid somehow with the letter strings BUT maybe the final number actually doesn't have to do with the letters at all and is another one of those T9 ciphers!
The final numbers after each coordinate are always the numbers 2-9 so it would make sense if they somehow related to the T9 cipher again. It's just a theory, but I'm gonna see if I can investigate this a little more :fuzwink: The only thing is, I'm not sure how the forward and back-slashes come into play on this one...

yes i thought it might be t9 too, but the distribution of numbers seems a bit odd. we have the number 2 appearing 19 times, 3 is there 13 times, 4 is there 10 times, there are no 5's at all, 6 is only there twice, no 7's, just four 8's, and only two 9's.

this means on a t9 keyboard the letters a - c and g-f would be there a lot, g-i would be a far less, and anything further through the alphabet than that would be even less still. I think this means that with enough thought we could narrow down some of the words it could be in advance. I tried but it got too complicated for me