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brechtos 01-20-2017 08:08 AM

I think I'm starting to see things that aren't there but am I the only one seeing numbers there?

https://gyazo.com/3892222661fb1c6d138be8a36b29b6f3

http://www.oddworldforums.net/attach...1&d=1484932075

Manco 01-20-2017 08:12 AM

If the text needs to be reordered then it will be a transposition cipher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher

The question is, which method?

brechtos 01-20-2017 08:18 AM

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If the text needs to be reordered then it will be a transposition cipher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposition_cipher

The question is, which method?

Perhaps the arrows?

kjjcarpenter 01-20-2017 08:20 AM

Soulstorm website has been updated to mark our progress: http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/

Gunnr 01-20-2017 08:22 AM

13336? Or 18886 or 13886? The middle numbers are hard to see, unless I'm seeing things too o.0

Also in the first 10-15 secs of mlg man's clip audio clip, I seem to hear what may be the weirdos or some mudokons saying "Help us Abe,
help us Abe"..
https://clyp.it/41ymleng

edmudokon 01-20-2017 08:33 AM

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13336? Or 18886 or 13886? The middle numbers are hard to see, unless I'm seeing things too o.0

I see "555"

Gunnr 01-20-2017 08:43 AM

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I see "555"

If we knew what to do with these numbers we could trail and error it and find a result *shrug*

Manco 01-20-2017 08:44 AM

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Perhaps the arrows?

Interesting idea – the arrows could be directions for a route cipher.

Varrok 01-20-2017 08:49 AM

Shouldn't we split the thread into individual puzzle threads, to avoid having threads with tens of pages? Like we did the last time

Connell 01-20-2017 08:51 AM

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They think it's morse code, with some kind of cypher... Can you help?

Looks like we're on the right lines

Manco 01-20-2017 08:53 AM

HECK YEAH

e: wait I should add some content uhhh

mattb150 PM’d me some spectrographs of the audio – I wasn’t able to read them too well, but the spectrograph of the reversed audio seemed to match up OK with what I’d deciphered by ear:

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--.- .. --.- .-- -- .. --.- -.-- .. -.. . -- .-. .--- --.- -.. .--- .-
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.--- .--. -.. --.- .--- -. -.-- .- .--- -. .-- ... -. .-. .--. --. ... .--. -.-. ... .--. .--. -- --.- .. -.. .. -- --.- -.-- -- -.. -... -.-. --.- .- .--- -. .-- ... -. .-. .--. --. ... .--. -.-. -.. .... -... --.. -- -. .--- .- .--- .- -. .- -.. ..- --
?
:

QIQWMIQYIDEMRJQDJA

JPDQJNYAJNWSNRPGSPCSPPMQIDIMQYMDBCQAJNWSNRPGSPCDHBZMNJAJANADUM

smallgamedev 01-20-2017 08:57 AM

This is all so exciting!

Have we figured out everything from the image yet? Maybe the arrows will clues for later puzzles.

Oh! And, has anyone seen any tweets on Ed and the mysterious SPIRIT OF 1029 that might help?

Sorry if I'm just babbling unhelpful nonsense, its all so exciting!

mattb150 01-20-2017 09:00 AM

Lots of audio shenanigans, morse only on the right channel and some definite sections of vocals, but I am having a hard time isolating them and it seems like they are additionally processed to be harder to understand.

The vocals seem to appear twice, once towards beginning ~0:16-0:40 and again ~1:10 - 1:30 ... the segments sound similar but it is hard to tell for sure. I will try later to run analysis on the sections each in its own channel to see if they correlate, could indicate if vocals are same sample used twice or different each time.

edit: short clip which somewhat isolates the vocals but they're still not clear ; https://clyp.it/5jidyuqt

edit2: Attached better isolates of the forwards & reversed morse code spectro for comparison to by-ear decodings. These can be read as dots and dashes and contain only the right channel audio as the left channel does not have morse on it. If the WPM is constant, lines could be inserted into the image at a constant interval in order to determine word breaks.

Connell 01-20-2017 09:43 AM

It's worth noting that on OWI's official update on the picture / audio progress on their site, when referring to the audio investigation progress specifically they link to Manco's post here: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=152 Where he reversed and deciphered the transcript I uploaded. If they're endorsing that post, that looks like it's the closest we've got so far. Perhaps we are just one cipher away; the question is, which is it? Perhaps one that needs the word "You" as a key?

kinguez 01-20-2017 09:53 AM

Guys,

Thought I should drop this here.

https://gyazo.com/fe3b10640acd6e0cadb7d6a8d8e1e77f

It's quite clear the word YOU has a meaning in all this, but who are You? You are Abe, also player. Maybe try switching the words whenever we find out which code to use.

Edit: If you follow this line of thought, you may find that Abe is the RealThreat here. (AbeRT)

sk8erbender 01-20-2017 09:59 AM

UPD: they are running outdated wordpress with custom login
4.0.12 version

Gunnr 01-20-2017 10:00 AM

I think it's time to look over some methods we tried last year of we aren't already totally doing that right now:p



Also, we all know the ruined paper image is pig pen but here are pig pen charts for refrence
vv

http://i.imgur.com/0QrUuDLm.png

http://i.imgur.com/NEMR08rm.png

Edit: Added Elder Fulthark
http://i.imgur.com/RacZ77mm.jpg

HOMINIX 01-20-2017 10:21 AM

https://i.imgur.com/5EjKo3R.jpg

This is what we've solved so far on the image portion. Still not sure if we need to solve the arrow stuff, as they say we've decoded the image

Connell 01-20-2017 10:25 AM

Another thought, the fact they've added a functioning 404 page to the 1029.io site, instead of having it just redirecting you to the homepage, could perhaps mean that there are new URL's to be found on there.

I tried URL's that combine the "12" and "20" from the source code, hoping I'd find a page with a hint to a cipher or something. No luck. Things like 1029.io/1220 or 2012. I wonder how those numbers fit in.

Also, OWI just favorited my tweet about deciphering the morse, so pretty much certain there's another layer of encryption on the morse.

kapteeni13 01-20-2017 11:07 AM

So i was checking 1029_01_audio.mp3 with Audacity's Spectrogram view. This might as well be another random attempt but i think i see X1,4! or 1,4! in Spectrogram view. :)

http://www.oddworldforums.net/attach...1&d=1484941931

Varrok 01-20-2017 11:12 AM

It does look like 1.4 to me. Or maybe it's a lucky coincidence

Manco 01-20-2017 12:43 PM

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It's worth noting that on OWI's official update on the picture / audio progress on their site, when referring to the audio investigation progress specifically they link to Manco's post here: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showpo...&postcount=152 Where he reversed and deciphered the transcript I uploaded. If they're endorsing that post, that looks like it's the closest we've got so far. Perhaps we are just one cipher away; the question is, which is it? Perhaps one that needs the word "You" as a key?

I wonder how many casual visitors will immediately be put off by the ironic avatar
senpai noticed me Glad to know we’re on the right track. Ciphers aren’t my specialty though, and none of the clues we have are obviously pointing to a certain cipher method that I can see. Of course, it’s probably easy to figure out if we can find the right way to look at it…

Trying to work out the cleanest transcript of the morse code; I’ve had a look at mattb150’s cleaned-up and reversed spectrograph, here’s what I got:

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--.- -- .. --.- .-- -- .. --.- -.-- .. -.. .. -- .-. .--- --.- -.. .--- .- .--- --

[unreadable]

.--. -.. --.- .--- -. -.-- .- .--- -. .-- ... -. .-. .--. --. ... .--. -.-. ... .--. .--. -- --.- .. -.. .. -- --.- -.-- -- -.. -... -.-. --.- .- .--- -. .-- ... -. .-. .--. --. ... .--. -.-. -.. .... -... --.. -- -. .--- .- .--- ..- -. .- -.. ..- -- .--.-

[unreadable]
:

QMIQWMIQYIDIMRJQDJAJM

[unreadable]

PDQJNYAJNWSNRPGSPCSPPMQIDIMQYMDBCQAJNWSNRPGSPCDHBZMNJAJUNADUM

[unreadable]
ROT-2 Caesar cipher still has “rupture”:
:

SOKSYOKSAKFKOTLSFLCLO

RFSLPACLPYUPTRIUREURROSKFKOSAOFDESCLPYUPTRIUREFJDBOPLCLWPCFWO

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Another thought, the fact they've added a functioning 404 page to the 1029.io site, instead of having it just redirecting you to the homepage, could perhaps mean that there are new URL's to be found on there.

I tried URL's that combine the "12" and "20" from the source code, hoping I'd find a page with a hint to a cipher or something. No luck. Things like 1029.io/1220 or 2012. I wonder how those numbers fit in.

Also, OWI just favorited my tweet about deciphering the morse, so pretty much certain there's another layer of encryption on the morse.

I think it’s a little early to be looking at the 1029.io site – that will probably become relevant soon, but not until we find a clue that points to it I think.

Xavier 01-20-2017 12:54 PM

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UPD: they are running outdated wordpress with custom login
4.0.12 version

Heya sk8erbender, please don't try to bend the rules and play the game in an other way than it's supposed to be.

We're all very passionate about this and want to see where it is leading but let's not ruin the path Oddworld Inhabitants worked hard to draw for us to follow.

DreadfulDrummer 01-20-2017 01:00 PM

A lot of those morse code clips seem littered with noise so this is my attempt at isolating the signal.
I used mlg man's attempt at isolating it, which was the best I had heard at the time.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B20...ew?usp=sharing

Xavier 01-20-2017 01:02 PM

Someone cracked it!

https://twitter.com/TopHattedTime/st...22518682509313

Michael 01-20-2017 01:03 PM

Sorry if this has been posted before, I scanned the thread and couldn't find mention of it.

The www.1029.io site features a number of glitches that appear to be flashing in morse code (top two lines, 'ignite a revolution', 'There's a storm coming'), but i haven't managed to figure them out yet.

There are also some highlighted letters/words throughout the page (SPIRIT OF 1029, highlight on emblem, E, T, N, HE HAS LIT A FIRE IN OUR HEARTS, O, JOIN US).

Perhaps figuring out the morse code sequences and adding in the highlighted letters in reading order will give us a sequence?

Connell 01-20-2017 01:05 PM

Yeah - I've been trying every cipher under the sun and heavily focusing on that small segment "AJNWSNRPGSPC" that repeats itself, if we can get something concrete from that it'd be a good start. I think Mattb's transcript is the most spot on because my pal did say that with his, the start and end might be a bit wrong but he was sure of the middle, and the only place the two differ is at the start and end, so I'd say that the one you did:

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PDQJNYAJNWSNRPGSPCSPPMQIDIMQYMDBCQAJNWSNRPGSPCDHBZMNJAJUNADUM

Is our definitive transcription of the reversed morse. And OWI seem to have given their blessing that that's right so far by linking to your previous post. So the question is, which cipher do we need now? Is there a clue towards it, or is it a guessing game until we get it? I've tried so many and I'm at a loss for now.

EDIT: SHIT SOMEONE SOLVED IT! So by "YOU" they meant the "STORM" . We are the storm! Shit I swear I put YOU in as the keyword on a cipher so many times and didn't get anything haha.

Dead Meat 01-20-2017 01:08 PM

I tried typing it as a URL but it was a broken link, any ideas?

(I'm new here, but I have been a fan off OWI my whole life, be gentle):fuzsmile:

Connell 01-20-2017 01:11 PM

I don't think our transcript is quite right. He came up with:

SPTORY FORWARDSLASH ASSET NINETY EIGHT FORWARDSLASH WMG ZERO OF WURFI

There must be a few errors from the morse translation

So now we know AJNWSNRPGSPC means FOWARDSLASH haha :)

Something along these lines: http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/1029

mattb150 01-20-2017 01:12 PM

I have tried, to no avail:

1029.io/asset98/
1029.io/asset98/img045
1029.io/assetninetyeight/
1029.io/assetninetyeight/img045
oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/
oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/img045
oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/img045.jpg
oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/img045.png
oddworld.com/soulstorm/assetninetyeight/
oddworld.com/soulstorm/assetninetyeight/img045


Thinking, thinking......

DreadfulDrummer 01-20-2017 01:14 PM

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I don't think our transcript is quite right. He came up with:

SPTORY FORWARDSLASH ASSET NINETY EIGHT FORWARDSLASH WMG ZERO OF WURFI

There must be a few errors from the morse translation

So now we know AJNWSNRPGSPC means FOWARDSLASH haha :)

Yeah, I really struggled trying to hear the start and the end, clear as day in the middle.
Check the version I've isolated: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B20...ew?usp=sharing

Gunnr 01-20-2017 01:18 PM

I got sitoryforwardslashassetninetyeightforwardslashimgzerofourfiue on that decipher site





Also welcome newcomer

Connell 01-20-2017 01:18 PM

So that guy that cracked it on Twitter used my friend's version of the transcript, whereas using Matt's returns this from the same site he used:

sitory forwardslash assetninetyeight forwardslash imgzerofourfiue

Which must be SITORY/ASSET98/IMG045

Slightly more tangible, but

http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/img045

Still no dice

E: I think the bit holding us back is "sitory" at the start. I don't think that's right

Gunnr 01-20-2017 01:23 PM

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So that guy that cracked it on Twitter used my friend's version of the transcript, whereas using Matt's returns this from the same site he used:

sitory forwardslash assetninetyeight forwardslash imgzerofourfiue

Slightly more tangible, but

http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/asset98/img045

Still no dice

Hm it looks like imgzerofourfiue is supposed to be imgzerofourFIVE if you replaced the "u" for "v"

What could sitory really be?


ugh just refreshed.
nevermind ill add in of i have something useful to say...

mattb150 01-20-2017 01:29 PM

Edit: Went through the morse entirely to come up with a ciphertext based on the image alone

Taking a good hard look at the morse image (https://i.imgur.com/LdpiiaH.png), I think the (mostly) correct ciphertext is
:

qmiqwmiqyidimrjqdjijilmxmnrjqdjajmpmnrprspkesmkjpdqjnyajnwsnrpgspcsppmqidimqymdbcqajnwsnrpgspcdhbzmnjajanadumjimrpq
Using this as ciphertext at http://www.braingle.com/brainteasers/codes/keyword.php with key storm decodes to
:

tentwentyninedotiononqexerdotiofoeserdsdaspjaepositoryforwardslashassetninetyeightforwardslashimgzerofofrfiueonedst

ten twenty nine dot io nonqexer dot io foeserdsdaspjaepository forwardslash asset ninety eight forward slash img zero fofrfiueonedst

Parts of the morse are very hard to read but it appears another url is in here?

edmudokon 01-20-2017 01:30 PM

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E: I think the bit holding us back is "sitory" at the start. I don't think that's right
It might be "storm"

Connell 01-20-2017 01:32 PM

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Taking a good hard look at the morse image (https://i.imgur.com/LdpiiaH.png), I think the correct ciphertext is
:

qmiqwmiqyidimsppmqidimqymdbcqajnwsnrpgspcdhbzmnjajunadum
Using this as ciphertext at http://www.braingle.com/brainteasers/codes/keyword.php with key storm decodes to
:

tentwentynineassetninetyeightforwardslashimgzerofourfiue

So were looking at http://1029.io/asset98/img045 realistically then. Still returns nothing. Nor does http://1029.io/asset98/img045.jpg

http://www.oddworld.com/soulstorm/10...t98/img045.jpg Not working either

https://i.imgflip.com/1i1p12.jpg

kinguez 01-20-2017 01:35 PM

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E: I think the bit holding us back is "sitory" at the start. I don't think that's right

Repository?

Varrok 01-20-2017 01:35 PM

Don't you find it strange there's no forward slash between 1029 and asset98?

edmudokon 01-20-2017 01:37 PM

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Don't you find it strange there's no forward slash between 1029 and asset98?
I do.
But there is something odd about the fact that the "sitoryforwardslash" part doesn't appear on mattb150's deciphering, but tentwentynine does