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Slog Bait 03-23-2016 11:13 AM

"I don't like what you guys are saying so just shut up"

Xorlidyr 03-23-2016 11:13 AM

#mohammedbae

STM 03-23-2016 11:20 AM

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"I don't like what you guys are saying so just shut up"

Yep, that's what I said.

Well done.

Very intelligent.

Slog Bait 03-23-2016 11:21 AM

Don't ever become a teacher, STM

STM 03-23-2016 11:23 AM

I wasn't planning on it, though I may as well be in my line of work. :tard:

Varrok 03-23-2016 11:34 AM

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What sect of Islam specifically is the one that's the problem? Each one is immensely different you see. Do you mean Shia or Sunni? Or maybe even Khawarij?

The one that has unscientific beliefs as its foundation

EVP_Glukkon 03-23-2016 11:38 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7z1HcsCUAEliRF.jpg

STM 03-23-2016 12:18 PM

Well done, ISIS and Saudi Arabia are bad and are similar. You are also a genius.

The brain team are out in force this evening.

I mean fuck me, what point are you even trying to make?

Xorlidyr 03-23-2016 12:18 PM

Those are wonderful.

Havoc 03-23-2016 12:20 PM

What is your point exactly?

Nepsotic 03-23-2016 01:04 PM

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Well done, ISIS and Saudi Arabia are bad and are similar. You are also a genius.

The brain team are out in force this evening.

I mean fuck me, what point are you even trying to make?

What point are you trying to make?

"Islam isn't bad, stop being so ignorant!"
Is that your point? Because it's dumb.

Xorlidyr 03-23-2016 01:10 PM

I love Islam.

Varrok 03-23-2016 01:11 PM

You've said it at least 4 times now

STM 03-23-2016 01:50 PM

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What point are you trying to make?

"Islam isn't bad, stop being so ignorant!"
Is that your point? Because it's dumb.


I thought I was very clear. When you say Islam is bad, you of course tar the brush-stroke name for a vast number of sects with the same brush. The catch-all term for a religion of 1.6 billion people, and you write the entire thing off? Well done.

Varrok 03-23-2016 01:52 PM

The foundation of all religions are unscientific beliefs, hence all religions tend to be logically biased.

STM 03-23-2016 01:54 PM

I'm not saying they're not illogical and unscientific, many people are not, that doesn't mean you write the entire thing off.

Nepsotic 03-23-2016 01:55 PM

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I thought I was very clear. When you say Islam is bad, you of course tar the brush-stroke name for a vast number of sects with the same brush. The catch-all term for a religion of 1.6 billion people, and you write the entire thing off? Well done.

Writing off Islam =/= writing off all Muslims. I'm saying that the ideas the religion promotes are shitty and evil. All of them? No. But most of them.

STM 03-23-2016 01:59 PM

The thing is Nepsotic, Islam, as with all religions, is incredibly nuanced. Religion is such a contrary thing, and it's based on ideas thousands and years old. The philosophy, and sometimes the history that can be found within these religions are often valid in the modern day. Islam, Christianity, Hinduism and all the others are outdated and yes, some of it is violent and barbaric but I implore you not to write the whole religion off. I'm not going to change your mind just by quipping with you, but I honestly believe if you researched some stuff about Islam that doesn't abide by your confirmation bias, you might take a more centrist view.

Varrok 03-23-2016 02:03 PM

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I'm not saying they're not illogical and unscientific, many people are not

I don't think you can consider yourself a logical person while still putting your trust in ancient, contradictory and unscientific books.

Nepsotic 03-23-2016 02:08 PM

Pretty much. I wouldn't read Mein Kampf and be like "Hey, it's full of shit but there's some good stuff about animal rights, everyone should get this book and live by it!"

Havoc 03-23-2016 02:22 PM

Belgian first responders from the fire department were met with Islamic youth dancing and cheering in front of their fire house, making beheading gestures to them. One of the firefighters posted his story to Facebook because for SOME reason the media don't want to show anything but peaceful gatherings and mourning.

https://www.facebook.com/fieroppolit...nf&pnref=story

Post is in Dutch but nothing Google translate won't fix if you want to read it for yourself.

Varrok 03-23-2016 02:28 PM

I could find a new article about an immigrant problem like that each day, there's so many of those situations popping in European countries

Havoc 03-23-2016 02:36 PM

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I could find a new article about an immigrant problem like that each day, there's so many of those situations popping in European countries

Sure you can find it. If you go looking for it. But I rarely, if ever, see it pop up on the mainstream news around here. There's like some big taboo on saying that Islam might just be retarded. And the only politician who does dare say that has to walk around with 24/7 body guards because the previous politician who dared say that got fucking assasinated, no joke. That's saying something right there.

Xorlidyr 03-23-2016 02:43 PM

Love Islam like I do and you shall not waste time on arguing.

Varrok 03-23-2016 02:55 PM

Because the problem is us not loving Islam, sure.

Nate 03-23-2016 06:42 PM

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I don't think you can consider yourself a logical person while still putting your trust in ancient, contradictory and unscientific books.

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Pretty much. I wouldn't read Mein Kampf and be like "Hey, it's full of shit but there's some good stuff about animal rights, everyone should get this book and live by it!"

(My response is directed at both of you)

I don't disagree with your posts. But why are you so negative about Islam and not mainstream followers of any other religion?

Nepsotic 03-23-2016 06:48 PM

I feel similarly about all of them, but I think you know the answer to that question.

How many radical Christians go blowing up buildings?

I know that culture is another massive issue here, but think about how many Americans have gone to join ISIS. I don't think culture is 100% to blame.

Slugology 03-23-2016 08:26 PM

if bombs were around during the Catholic/Protestant wars, the answer would be: alot

STM 03-23-2016 10:21 PM

Erm, not like The Troubles or anything then?

Xorlidyr 03-23-2016 11:01 PM

Christians (and not only them) blow up houses in Middle East under the flag of antiterrorism.
Just remember how it started and which countries launched the Fundamentalist aggression.
To say the truth, some rulers are trying to sunder different cultures. This should not happen. Traditions should not simply disappear.

Nothing is one-sided.
I love Islam in the same way I love anything that brought some good to this world.

Varrok 03-24-2016 12:36 AM

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I don't disagree with your posts. But why are you so negative about Islam and not mainstream followers of any other religion?

I'm negative about any religion, actually. But it's not a thread for all of them, just the particular one.

Havoc 03-24-2016 02:47 AM

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(My response is directed at both of you)

I don't disagree with your posts. But why are you so negative about Islam and not mainstream followers of any other religion?

Because Islam is causing by far the most problems at the moment with their whole "invasion of the West". Christian extremists are tame in comparison.

I hate all religion, but Islam in particular because at least Christianity as evolved to be a pretty passive thing. You say grace over dinner, go to Church and get married under god. The most violent passages in the Bible have been forgotten and are being ignored by mainstream believers. Not so for Islam and the Koran. The violent passages in that book are generally used, abused and followed all the time. Islam is stuck in the place Christianity was during the crusades and that makes it extremely dangerous.

STM 03-24-2016 03:06 AM

Does a racist moron stick his hand up your arse and work your mouth to make you say these things are do you do it of your own volition? Show me some statistics that prove violent passages in the Koran are not ignored/are practiced, by the majority of Muslims.

Vlam 03-24-2016 03:32 AM

STM has been hacked by FA.

STM 03-24-2016 03:57 AM

Vlam continues to be irrelevant.

Vlam 03-24-2016 04:26 AM

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There are bigger, badder enemies to focus your energies on than 0.00001% of Muslims.

Who are those enemies?

STM 03-24-2016 04:34 AM

Global media, global warming, genocide, the 21st century fall of democracy, etc.

Vlam 03-24-2016 04:37 AM

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Global media, global warming, genocide, the 21st century fall of democracy, etc.

Not the Jews?

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Or maybe it's just Jews love money/ manipulate the banks.


Varrok 03-24-2016 04:37 AM

So you want only local media? Like, a no to internet?

STM 03-24-2016 04:43 AM

Acting ignorant to semantics makes more of a statement about you than anything else, Varrok.