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Phylum 07-31-2014 05:43 AM

Based on engine lingo that was revealed when Paul was working his magic way back when:

Feeco 1 Path 1 Cam 1
Mines 1 Path 7 Cam 11

Cams are literally the camera points, and all have an associated background. A collection of cams is a path. Paths are linked by special doors, and are sorted into bigger areas like the Mines.

Alcar 07-31-2014 06:02 AM

Cheers. That's something that has always nagged at me every time I sit down to replay AO or AE (just finished AO again for the gazillionth time, and have started on AE). I have no life...

Alcar...

Bullet Magnet 07-31-2014 09:27 AM

Sounds like a good enough life to me.

abe is now! 07-31-2014 11:28 AM

Here's a question. Where does the final bird portal in SoulStorm Brewery bring Abe? Which place is that? Is that Necrum?

JennyGenesis 07-31-2014 11:52 AM

I'm with Nate on this one, and as for the air guitar, I think it's just a joke about the Slig only just realising that he's on air and he's busy messing about with his microphone. Much like Aslik when he shouts "Those stinking slaves!"

HOMINIX 07-31-2014 12:48 PM

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Cheers. That's something that has always nagged at me every time I sit down to replay AO or AE (just finished AO again for the gazillionth time, and have started on AE). I have no life...

Alcar...

Nothing wrong with that. I'm currently in the middle of an AO %100 run, and these checkpoints are ruthless...

That part in the very beginning with the toggle mine, the three regular mines and the Sligs in the background. I fucked that up like 10 times in a row and had to go back and save the Muds in the secret area every single time...

I love you Abe's Oddysee. I hate you, Abe's Oddysee.

Crashpunk 08-01-2014 12:40 PM

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Here's a question. Where does the final bird portal in SoulStorm Brewery bring Abe? Which place is that? Is that Necrum?

I think it's the same place at the end of Oddysee. Which is I think Mosaic Lines. *Citation needed*

HOMINIX 08-01-2014 11:00 PM

Okay, here's one I've been wondering about for 17 years:

What's up with thay nose-like thing that appears on Abe's face during the AO Shrykull scene?
I'll add a screen of what I'm talking about when I can get to a PC.

Strnadik 08-02-2014 06:21 AM

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Okay, here's one I've been wondering about for 17 years:

What's up with thay nose-like thing that appears on Abe's face during the AO Shrykull scene?
I'll add a screen of what I'm talking about when I can get to a PC.

HOMINIX, EXACTLYYYYYYYY! Sorry for this freak-out, but I am happy I am not the only one. We have a lot of things in common actually from what I saw in our previous discussions.
Here's the screen: http://puu.sh/aByh2/3c388efe2b.jpg

HOMINIX 08-02-2014 06:52 AM

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HOMINIX, EXACTLYYYYYYYY! Sorry for this freak-out, but I am happy I am not the only one. We have a lot of things in common actually from what I saw in our previous discussions.
Here's the screen:

Yes, that's it! I was surprised to see it didn't make an appearance in NnT

Xavier 08-04-2014 05:16 AM

That's just some light trick...

No seriously are you really thinking there's actually relevant going on there?

Crashpunk 08-05-2014 02:51 AM

That cutscene always bothered me. Abe suddenly appeared in the Free Fire Zone with the Shrykull power. But then afterwards, he was back in Mosaic Lines and had to travel back to the Free Fire Zone.

The New 'N' Tasty scenes makes so much more sense.

Xavier 08-05-2014 03:07 AM

Do we know he's actually in the Free Fire Zone? It could be that for some reason he's on the top of the Monsaic Temple, and it's already dark outside.

But yeah, I agree the scene in NnT makes way more sense.

Holy Sock 08-05-2014 03:12 AM

The Scrab conveyor belt cutscene is also much better than the one in AO, methinks.

Xavier 08-05-2014 03:20 AM

Nostalgia tells me it's lacking Abe getting saved by a mix of his clumsiness and fate.

Holy Sock 08-05-2014 03:25 AM

C'mon, Xavier, nostalgic about an Oddworld game? Peh!

Ah well, I think falling down that cliff is sufficient clumsiness and fate for me!

Crashpunk 08-05-2014 02:21 PM

Perhaps. But to me it looks a lot like Free Fire Zone. Not just because it's night, The sky looks pretty much identical to the Abe's Moon scene.

Nate 08-05-2014 09:31 PM

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Perhaps. But to me it looks a lot like Free Fire Zone. Not just because it's night, The sky looks pretty much identical to the Abe's Moon scene.

How much do you think the sky varies across a distance of 50 or 100 miles? The events in AO occur in a very small region of Mudos.

HOMINIX 08-05-2014 09:54 PM

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That's just some light trick...

No seriously are you really thinking there's actually relevant going on there?

Not anything important, but is it really out of the question to think that he may have actually gained a little new facial feature after being given the power to shapeshift into a fucking demi god? :laugh:

Really a remake of that exact scene in New n Tasty would've contained the only possible new insight into that small detail, that's the reason I brought it up being in the remake.

E: You guys also realize that the entrance to the Monsaic Lines is only a few hundred feet away from where the free fire zone ends, right? I still agree it doesn't make too mcuh sense that he's suddenly outside, then back into the temple, then right back outside, especially when that specific Shrykull use was to get past enemies and bombs blocking your bird portal exit from the temple to the free fire zone.

abe is now! 08-06-2014 10:05 AM

Can anyone post a screenshot of Monsaic Lines' landscape where I can see a Meech or something of Meeches?

HOMINIX 08-06-2014 11:08 AM

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...c/cb/Meech.jpg
Unfortunately, I think that's the only official art that's been released.

abe is now! 08-06-2014 11:41 AM

I mean that perhaps in Monsaic Lines it's possible to sight some meeches statue/ruins.

HOMINIX 08-06-2014 11:55 AM

Oh, I misunderstood your post. As far as I know there are no such statues.

Shrykull69 08-07-2014 08:43 AM

That's true, there is not any statue in Mosaic Lines, or any hand stone message that mackes mention to Meeches.

MeechMunchie 08-07-2014 01:27 PM

The only reference we have to Mudokons honouring Meeches is from Dear Alf, which is notoriously unreliable.

Nate 08-07-2014 09:59 PM

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The only reference we have to Mudokons honouring Meeches is from Dear Alf, which is notoriously unreliable.

My vague memory is that Alf specifically stated that Muds did not worship Fleeces, in spite of popular fantheory.

Slog Bait 08-07-2014 10:06 PM

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Fleeces

Hehe

abe is now! 08-08-2014 12:49 AM

Ok here's an easy question why didn't Elum Chubs posters appear in the corridor where Abe was working at the beginning of AO?

Strnadik 08-08-2014 01:35 AM

Can I have a question too? Yesterday, during Caddy's livestream, I saw a few non-oddworld pictures on the employee board. Is that way to advertise other games? I took a picture of one of the cases :

Wil 08-08-2014 01:41 AM

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Ok here's an easy question why didn't Elum Chubs posters appear in the corridor where Abe was working at the beginning of AO?

RuptureFarms had ran out of the colors they needed to print those posters last time they decorated that corridor.

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Can I have a question too? Yesterday, during Caddy's livestream, I saw a few non-oddworld pictures on the employee board. Is that way to advertise other games?

Short answer: It's cross-promotional material in support of some great indie devs we're friends with.

Long answer: http://www.oddworldforums.net/showthread.php?t=21697

Varrok 08-08-2014 01:43 AM

How long was NnT's exclusivity deal with Sony? One month, am I remembering it correctly? Will we know PC release date soon after that?

Wil 08-08-2014 02:19 AM

30-day console exclusive. Doesn't cover PC. We could have released PC before for all they cared, but the PC version takes longer because it has to work on any configuration of PC, plus have a whole bunch of extra features.

You won't know the release date soon. We won't know the release date soon. We've got a few rough estimates, but declaring estimates is always tricky because people take it as an expectation.

STM 08-08-2014 02:41 AM

D:

Varrok 08-08-2014 03:14 AM

But it's Unity. It's supposed to be easily converted to other platforms. Especially PC. And Unity is like, extra compatible with like, any PC.

Holy Sock 08-08-2014 03:32 AM

Yeah, Wil.

But seriously, Varrok, it may be easier but, with a 17 man team or so, porting games can be quite time consuming.

Wil 08-08-2014 03:46 AM

It is easier. In a lot of ways. But it won't magically know what assets to pick for which graphics settings, and it can't auto-generate the art and design for a keybinding menu. Those are just examples, there's more than that. Easier doesn't mean there's no work to do.

Varrok 08-08-2014 03:57 AM

Seems legit.

Just don't Munch this, take your time.

Job McYossie 08-08-2014 04:37 AM

For the love of everything don't Munch this. A simple Unity port could take next to no time, but a good port that is optimized might not.

Holy Sock 08-08-2014 05:04 AM

JAW didn't really do the Munch port, though. You should say don't Stranger this.

Manco 08-08-2014 06:27 AM

I don’t think that’s even applicable here, because there’s a huge difference between the circumstances of the Stranger port and the NnT port.