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STM 05-06-2013 02:01 PM

Well if they felt like reusing the engine and some of the assets they're building for N 'n' T they could make it another 2.5D platformer. Otherwise I'd like to see a first person isometric 3D puzzle game with an RPG progression system and cover based shooter elements.

Auriel 05-06-2013 03:19 PM

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Make your mind up. You can't have both. Unless you're talking about Portal. Which you aren't.

I'll just presume that was sarcasm to help myself sleep at night.

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One thing I do know is that I'd like to see some sort of first person game in the same area of Oddworld where we first see Abe. Doesn't even have to be a shooter. There are a lot of games which prove that hybrids work well... Depends how brave OWI and JAW are feeling, I guess.

OWI has already proven fou-erm, three times that hybrid games work well.
But as far as combining first-person (shooter?) gameplay with the locations in the older games goes; well that could easily work even in the quintology. Abe can possess sligs can he not? And the most useful feature (besides the BS gamespeak sounds of course) of controlling a slig is its gun. Therefore, an entire genre of video games can be successfully incorporated into a quintology game purely based on slig possession.
Incidentally, the same applies with Munch's "possession" of snoozers which makes me wonder if OWI planned on incorporating first person gameplay into the unique powers of each of the five heroes with the advent of further advances in games from the very start.

Nate 05-06-2013 05:52 PM

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Exactly, they weren't massively successful going by money, which is what seems to define how successful a game is in the current industry.

I don't know what you're basing your numbers on, but they've both sold high hundreds of thousands of copies, if not millions.


They both paid off their development costs many times over, which is what is important to a developer or publisher.

Phylum 05-06-2013 11:58 PM

These figures are XBLA sales only. STM has no idea what he's talking about.

Braid on XBLA has sold more than twice as many units as it cost dollars for Blow to get it finished, including paying someone for art.

Xavier 05-07-2013 01:16 AM

I love to see how people have such huge hopes for SligStorm when it was basically just designed to be a small bonus game following an albino Slig larva escaping in a level that would be the size of the Slig Barraks. I'm not sure much story was even written for it.

Somehow playing a Slig larva in first person view doesn't sound that exciting :p

Bullet Magnet 05-07-2013 07:06 AM

Depends on what slig larvae are like. To they fly? Swim? Burrow into living hosts to chow down on their pancreatic ducts?

Sekto Springs 05-07-2013 09:03 AM

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One thing I do know is that I'd like to see some sort of first person game in the same area of Oddworld where we first see Abe. Doesn't even have to be a shooter. There are a lot of games which prove that hybrids work well... Depends how brave OWI and JAW are feeling, I guess.

In the big suggestion thread, I half-heartedly posed that when you possess a Slig, it switches to first person. I think that would be especially nifty if you were specifically using the Slig to clear a room of other Sligs. Of course, the problem is that the game is 2.5D and such a limited spacial plane wouldn't work for FP. Every area where you needed to posses an enemy to progress would need two versions; the limited 2.5D and then a more spacious one that accommodates 360 movements for FP. Unless you made it a rail shooter.

It might actually not be as complicated as it sounds if all you were doing was expanding the floor space and copy/pasting the props, but I don't know how that works, and it's still extra work for something that the original game did fine without.

Slog Bait 05-08-2013 08:19 AM

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I love to see how people have such huge hopes for SligStorm when it was basically just designed to be a small bonus game following an albino Slig larva escaping in a level that would be the size of the Slig Barraks. I'm not sure much story was even written for it.

Somehow playing a Slig larva in first person view doesn't sound that exciting :p

It's been quite a while since the original idea. It's possible that the story could grow to be bigger than what was initially planned, if even by a small margin. And, assuming all sligs can retrieve pants regardless of age or status, there is still opportunity to do more than crawl around on your belly. If no weapons became available to you in-game and it allows you to walk about in first person for whatever reason, I'd imagine the movement to be similar to xenomorphs in AVP.

Xavier 05-10-2013 05:51 AM

Hand of Odd, Abe karting game, Stranger's Warth 2 and the Brutal Ballad of Fangus Klot discussed here:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/53775/features/...rld-isnt-dead/

With some follow up here:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/53796/exclusive...of-fangus-klot

STM 05-10-2013 06:18 AM

Interesting about SW being MOII. Also, the news about Fangus sounds promising.

Wil 05-10-2013 06:31 AM

When I find the time, remind me give that a proper read and correct all the little mistaken and misleading things.

Right off the bat, there was never Abe Racing. It was Vykker Racing.

Xavier 05-10-2013 06:42 AM

Actually I'm not against an Oddworld racing game, as long as it makes sense with the rest of the canon. Now I am wondering, why would Vykkers race?

Or would Vykkers make their creatures race? And them genetically manipulate them to become better racers? Somehow this makes more sense.

Vyrien 05-10-2013 06:54 AM

If I were a Vykker, I would race the fuck out of those harvester pods.

STM 05-10-2013 08:23 AM

I'd soup up a slig tank and just run down the opposition. Because big-arse heavy tank.

Nate 05-10-2013 05:58 PM

So does this mean that Glitch wasn't speaking quite so hypothetically?

Crashpunk 05-11-2013 03:37 AM

I'll have Abe in a mine cart. Crush everything!

Jbot123 05-11-2013 03:58 AM

One of the cars must be a hot dog and/or banana or I an boycotting Oddworld forever.

Vyrien 05-11-2013 04:02 AM

Lady Margaret on Kinto slaves please.

STM 05-11-2013 04:12 AM

Munch's wheelchair?

Jbot123 05-11-2013 05:45 AM

Stranger's boat with grubbs carrying it as wheels.

Legohair 05-11-2013 06:51 AM

I was a little disappointed to read about Fangus and SW2 being potential forerunners for the next projects after New n' Tasty, Each to their own and everything, but I'd kill to see the quintology get continued properly, starting with Munch's Exoddus, then Squeek. SW2 seems kinda un-needed, especially given the long timespan since the Quintology plans were announced.

STM 05-11-2013 07:14 AM

How could you comment when you know next to nothing about what Fangus and SWII might be like...or what they're about? Bizarre.

Crashpunk 05-11-2013 07:42 AM

I always thought the artwork for Fangus looked amazing. I really hope something becomes of it in the future.

MeechMunchie 05-11-2013 08:59 AM

Meetles and Elum chariots.

Nepsotic 05-11-2013 09:13 AM

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Munch's wheelchair?


Too far, man.

Jbot123 05-11-2013 09:29 AM

With squeaking noise louder x1000

Wil 05-11-2013 09:30 AM

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So does this mean that Glitch wasn't speaking quite so hypothetically?

Haha, we hadn't actually found anything about it in the archive back then.

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I was a little disappointed to read about Fangus and SW2 being potential forerunners for the next projects after New n' Tasty, Each to their own and everything, but I'd kill to see the quintology get continued properly, starting with Munch's Exoddus, then Squeek. SW2 seems kinda un-needed, especially given the long timespan since the Quintology plans were announced.

Trust me, we want to tell those stories too, but we also want to tell them in the best way possible. We need the resources, the team, the cash, the trust and attention from the industry and fans all to be so much greater than they are now. Let's not let our ambition outreach our ability. Little, careful, sustainable steps.

STM 05-11-2013 09:40 AM

If you ever need a senior coffee maker to help productivity, I'm out of school and unemployed as of...next month. XD

Jbot123 05-11-2013 09:55 AM

If you need an intern I'll move to Algeria. Or wherever you guys are.

Vyrien 05-11-2013 10:27 AM

http://i.imgur.com/umRPUko.png

Bastards stop adding more things.

Jbot123 05-11-2013 10:39 AM

The first time I've ever been remotely referenced in a drawing not made by myself. (that's right, I can draw)

STM 05-11-2013 11:12 AM

Wow, that's actually a mega-sexy piece of concept art. You know what to do, JAW.

Slog Bait 05-11-2013 12:44 PM

The slig tank is my favourite.

Jbot123 05-11-2013 04:15 PM

But no banana or hot dog! Boooo!

Xavier 05-12-2013 02:18 AM

Still need a kart with sloggies instead of wheels :p

Scrabaniac 05-12-2013 02:47 AM

The only way i can see it being canonical is if the different species are forced to race for the queens (and possibly kings) amusement in like a colloseum (spelling?)

Manco 05-12-2013 03:25 AM

Why does it need to be canonical?

Jbot123 05-12-2013 04:01 AM

How about the Glukkons are trying to take over the world, so they have a race! The only catch is you never get to see how it ends.

Xavier 05-12-2013 04:15 AM

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How about the Glukkons are trying to take over the world, so they have a race! It's video game logic. The only catch is you never get to see how it ends.

I'm going to be nice this time, but never ever say stuff like this again in the "Oddworld Discussion". You have been warned.

Vyrien 05-12-2013 04:34 AM

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Still need a kart with sloggies instead of wheels :p

http://i.imgur.com/rDrBipY.png

Also thanks guys.

e: Fixed the thing on the front, it was massive.