My favourite part of God's divine plan was a hundred million years of nothing but giant monsters eating each other.

Don't tell me if you were God you wouldn't have giant monsters warring it out.

If I was God, I'd make myself some fucking friends and stop telling people how to live their lives.

Admittedly, 100 million years of dinosaurs would get boring after the first day. They don't do much.

Not if you're Dipstikk.

At least in his case, he'd gradually make them more interesting.

Yeah. It's called evolution.

I meant more along the lines of giving them far-out names, lovable personas and jetpacks.

Not turn them into chickens.

Hey. Chickens are delicious.

Hey, we've been around for a few hundred thousand years. Maybe when he gets bored of us there'll be another meteor...

Speaking of death, Amy Winehouse just dropped dead today. Huh.

Yeh, surprise surprise.

Heh, she's been killing herself for such a long time I'm not surprised that she kicked the bucket, I'm only surprised that it took her so long. Funny tid-bid, I was watching the Comedy Store and Patrick Kielty made a quip that Amy Winehouse died, when no-one laughed he said, "Hey, this material isn't going to be released for another three weeks... gotta keep it up to date." I love irony sometimes.

Anyways, I have no sympathy for her.

Another addition to the 27 club. Not a very welcome one.

Can't say I was suprised she died, either. As Ridg3 said, shes been pretty much killing herself with the constant drugs and partying. Maybe she should have gone to rehab.


HOOOOOO!

to my knowledge the bible never states how he created us, only that he did, and it does say that the animals came before us so in my eyes evolution is quite possable, also imagine trying to explain evolution to stone age people, not easy.

If you were trying to make a point, I think I missed it.

I wasn't really, I was just stating that I think evolution is possable, unlike most other people in the church I go to who think it can't be so.

Show them a dinosaur fossil and be done with it.

Actually the vast majority of religions in Europe accept evolution, showing that faith is not totally correlated with delusion.

The US, however, is not so lucky.

My brother believes in the Genesis account of creation and refuses to accept any alternative, even to the point were he dismisses evolution. He's a bit younger than I am but it shows that some people get truly indoctrinated by Catholic belief.

I've been in Roman Catholic education all my life (Technically even now) and I've only ever had one RE teacher who believed that Genesis was factual.

We did, we went to a Roman Catholic school were many teachers told us genesis was real. I don't think we were taught about evolution either. I must thank this forum in a way because if I had not participated in the God debates nor listened to other peoples viewpoints about death and such. I don't think I would be questioning what I was taught when I was younger, rather I would be a different person altogether.

One must remember that the Genesis account for creation was written at a time when man could not comprehend, nor understand any scientific explanation for his come about. Therefore a simple story was made instead covering everything the people knew existed on the Earth. I think Genesis is very much about the 'creation of man' and perhaps the seven days of creating was put in afterwards as a sort of filler for when people asked questions. I'm still not saying we are made of clay and women, a spare rib but again, it's all about a deeper meaning isn't it.

No.

If you're going to admit the ambiguousness to the reliability of Genesis why not go ahead and do so for the rest of the bible?

Well because the majority of the New Testament is from the words of a man who is proven to have existed and been crucified. I admit that some of the Old Testament is open to interpretation and mixed meanings but remember the book is thousands of years old and has gone through many alterations under translation and by those who would have the Bible change meaning for their own machinations. For example, only recently the Codex Gigas was unveiled as being the life work of a monk, not a demonic masterpiece written in one night by a possessed ex-holy man.

Fucking circles.

I have to run but this disbelief in his existence pisses me off because it's common knowledge not a shady conspiracy.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...howtopic=39332 knock yourself out.

Look, Cthulthu got high...felt mellow and not destructive, so he thought it would be funny to write a novel called the Bible.

Bury a Harry Potter book on a developing world and you can bet by the time a sapient species rises and finds it, they'll make a religion out of it.

It's insane.

Trolling developing worlds?
Now that's thinking outside the box.

Very interesting topic, i agree. I would propably say that when we die, we would end up in our memories possibly doing some things you usually do or you end up being born at a different year with a different look and possibly personality.

I like how you link to a one-page thread where one of the last posts raises criticisms of every single piece of "proof" mentioned in the OP.

I also like how you apparently didn't read far enough to see it.

Yeah there was. That was when the dragons of Europe took the Vikings into the himalayas to battle invading insect aliens.

Stop chatting with Joe's brother, it's having an effect.

couldn't agree with you more

I often get frustrated with people from my church who simply ignore science when it goes against the bible

I often get frustrated by people who believe whatever the Bible says must be true except for the bits which get disproved.

It's because they're so completely brainwashed by it's intrepid sputter that they're in complete denial.

The only conclusion for them is to automatically hate what proved it to be true: Science.

Holy shit, he's actually making progress. We're not quite there yet, but well on the right way. Keep it up, STM!

=D I feel so proud.

Now you can't use the Fall to explain anything bad in the world, because Adam and Eve and the Tree and the Serpent never existed. Which also means there is no original sin.

Do you mean original sin as the first ever sin? I never really believed sin came from Adam and Eve, even when I thought that creationism might be right, i.e. when I was younger, it's in the human psyche to do wrong once in a while.