Then Israel takes that power.

Them Jews and Mussers need to learn to get along. But then, it's all Big Three's fault anyway.

I had heard recently a bookmaker's in the city are literally taking bets to see which African/Middle East country will be in unrest next.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

That's harsh but call me apathetic when I say fairplay.

Derry is full of so many injustices.

I'm eager to see how they get rid of Gadaffi. It's like waiting for the ending of a gripping TV series.

'Derry'= u Catholic?

I agree, I want Gadaffi to be put away, removed, shot, whatever, no leader airstrikes civilians and tells UN it's none of it's business.

I'm not religious or political when it comes to Northern Ireland, Protestants call it Derry too in conversation. Only called Londonderry formally.

I want Gadaffi to be eaten by a Tyrannosaurus!

Fairplay on both matters XD

I could just imagine turning on Sky News, with a massive headline at the bottom of the screen:

GADAFFI EATEN

I don't follow your logic.

Indeed, should write as Israel.

It's difficult to say. They don't like the current leadership, of course, but there's no guarantee that any replacement would be any better - and if they're a populist goverment, they could possibly be worse. On the other hand, whilst I wouldn't pretend to be an expert on Palestinian politics, I believe it's likely that Fatah (who control the West Bank) would be happy about a change of leadership in Iran, whilst Hamas (who control Gaza and receive millions from the Iranian government) would want things to remain the way they are.

I don't know enough about Israel to comment without sounding a fool (I know that never stopped me before).

Did anyone here about those SAS troops who got escorted out of the country, basically told to piss off. Funny.

By Gadaffi loyalists, no doubt.

The rebels actually seem open to talk with foreign news journalists, though they did tell some journalists to leave for their own safety.

Russia is against foreign military intervention. It does nothing to dissolve America's reputation as 'hungry oil thieves', as Gadaffi accurately depicted them.

Good, Russia being neutral is the safest bet over the next few years as things heat up, damn it we better had too, I can't afford another war, neither can any member of my family or the rest of the population of this sinking ship.

By what Russia said, they seem to be protecting Libya.

Maybe they think they'll get some oil as a reward. I see through their ways.

They bought ours, and sell it to us a extortionate prices, they don't need anyone elses. Especially since BP has monopoly on Libya.

There was more fighting today.

Gadaffi's forces won.

Boooooooooo

Speaking of Russia's stand on this

My father has been watching the whole thing in Libya through a Russian News station. He's saying it that american/english are blowing the whole thing out of proportion. That, in truth, the number of rebels aren't really that significant compared to the number of loyalists, and while they do have a hefty bit of territory covered they don't stand a chance against Gadaffi forces. He's also a believer of the idea that the whole civil war started over Al Queda manipulation.

Thoughts? I'm afraid I haven't been following the situation over there too closely, and the idea I'm getting is that Gadaffi = bad guy but my dad is hell bent on proving otherwise.

Your father is a fucking idiot.

Good enough an answer for me!

You only think that because you've been watching your Scottish, lefty, pseudo-free media. If you'd been watching the real news out of Russia, then you'd feel differently.




Which is not to say that the Russian news is correct; just that the ability to hold logical opinions is dependant on access to good information. It's impossible to reach a truly logical conclusion if your axioms are false.

Give me one good reason why I should trust Putin's press over the BBC?

Bigger nose.

I like how there's a picture of Putin on Gaddafi, Muburak and Berlusconi's wikipedia pages.

Not that it means a thing, but still amusing.

Read the tiny smaller text. I'm not saying that you should trust the Russian press. Just that criticising metroixer's dad for trusting a news source that he believes is reliable is kind of a dick move.

Feel free to criticise the Russian press all you like.

Oh, right.

Sorry Metroixer.

In related news, France recognizes the rebels as Libya's legitimate government.

Why exactly did we let the French stand up for right first?

Because our prime minister is incapable of making any sudden decisions which don't involve taxing the poor?

I am so oblivious to politics that I refrain from having any stance on any matters whatsoever.

What a useful post you made.

So I'm not a hypocrite, if France sees the rebels as the legitimate government, what happens if they lose?

Related: how are the rebels doing so far?

Apparently Libyan Loyalists are gaining ground against the freedom fighters, quite a few outlying towns are being regained. France made a bad move declaring rebel group as the government so late in the conflict, the tides are still turning but Royalists seem to be mopping up at the moment.

EDIT: Further info to follow up my previous point, NATO as well as the EU seem to taking a 'League of Nations' role on this one, even the UN is back benching for now.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...117748448.html < gives a little insight I feel.

They either backtrack or cease all dealings with Gaddafi, as all the west should have always done.

So many of us support the rebels and revolutionaries in the Middle-East this winter, but the west may still come to reap what we have been sowing for the past 30 years. For too long our position has been "keep the oil flowing and don't interfere with our nations, and you can inflict whatever horrors and injustices upon your own people as you wish".

The rebels and new governments there may remember this. It is not simply outrageous that we have not openly supported these resistances from the start, it is worse that we did not back the people for these past decades as we always should have, just as it is outrageous that we went into Iraq so many years too late.

This just in: We're finally doing shit.

Too late to go back now. We've chosen a side.

And it took us three weeks longer than Switzerland to do so.

Planes expected to arrive in Libya in a few hours.

Shit's about to go down.

Gaddafi's backing down.

All despots are cowards. The moment you show them they're not in charge any more, they cry like a little girl.

Phew, no air strikes then, I can't believe America of all countries tried to veto the move. Fucking League of Nations bull shit.

112 missiles fired...

...from teh FRENCH

Lordy, the day the French leads an attack against another nation FIRST, is the day that this World goes to pot. Let's hope it works otherwise there's going to be a tactical stalemate.

French order of business:

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