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Bullet Magnet 01-04-2011 03:17 PM

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Guess the Universe has already been figured out. Bang. End of discussion.

Not in the slightest. The more we discover, the further the horizons retreat.

MA 01-04-2011 03:18 PM

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maybe, theres no way of knowing untill it happens, if it happens

maybe, you don't know what you're gibbering on about.

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Guess the Universe has already been figured out. Bang. End of discussion.

this.

Pilot 01-04-2011 03:20 PM

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Not in the slightest. The more we discover, the further the horizons retreat.

Real Science and loving every moment. ;)

shaman 01-04-2011 03:23 PM

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there is no "outside" of the universe.

We're on the inside but there is no outside.

One side of my face dropped.

LDG519 01-04-2011 11:08 PM

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the rate of the universe's expansion is not slowing at all, but increasing. We do not as yet know why.

how did scientists figure this out?

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maybe, you don't know what you're gibbering on about.

that's probably true

MeechMunchie 01-04-2011 11:18 PM

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how did scientists figure this out?

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_shift

LDG519 01-04-2011 11:35 PM

thanks for the info

Scraby 01-05-2011 03:44 AM

hmm,never saw this,thanks for the info,hm what do you think has a black hole any endings,like it sucks you and throws you out somewhere else(if we ever unlock the technology to iron or a material that could withstand the gravity crush)

STM 01-05-2011 09:47 AM

Well, energy cannot simply...vanish, neither can matter, it can only be transformed, so there may be entirely new...let me think of a word to cover this...worlds, in a non-planetary sense, that our brains must see to understand, within the holes.

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 01-05-2011 10:07 AM

good point, like water, it cant be, you know, destroyed, it can only change state, the amount of water on this earth was the same amount as there was 65 million years ago, its in a cycle.

Scraby 01-05-2011 10:11 AM

yeah,did anyone saw that vid that explains how did the ice age started?

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 01-05-2011 10:16 AM

meteor, dust, ice, brrr!

Scraby 01-05-2011 10:33 AM

they said something to do with co2,while they were drilling on the ice on the tarctic

STM 01-05-2011 10:47 AM

You tit, of course there's a different amount of water...blasted by comets, creating water from hydrogen plants, chemical reactions, alkenes. You ruined my space vacuum argument, you can never be forgiven.

Scraby 01-05-2011 10:48 AM

who me?

STM 01-05-2011 10:53 AM

Yer you! No, OtitIB

Scraby 01-05-2011 11:02 AM

well i was talking about a planet filled with co2

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 01-05-2011 11:07 AM

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You tit, of course there's a different amount of water...blasted by comets, creating water from hydrogen plants, chemical reactions, alkenes.

well, i meant that water cant be destroyed, more water can come but i didnt think id point that out as it would just get more complicated and i didnt think any of you knewww....
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You ruined my space vacuum argument, you can never be forgiven.

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Manco 01-05-2011 11:39 AM

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well, i meant that water cant be destroyed, more water can come but i didnt think id point that out as it would just get more complicated and i didnt think any of you knewww....

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Water sure as hell can be destroyed.

Water is H2O. You can break it down into Hydrogen and Oxygen.

There isn't a set amount of water in the universe.

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 01-05-2011 11:42 AM

yes, not destroyed though is it? its components are still hanging about, its not water, but its still there.

Manco 01-05-2011 11:43 AM

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yes, not destroyed though is it? its components are still hanging about, its not water, but its still there.

But then it's not water, is it?

ODDWORLDisTHEbest! 01-05-2011 11:46 AM

but its still there, and can be made into water again

STM 01-05-2011 12:14 PM

Just don't compare water to space, ever, again! March to bed right now meeseter!

Wings of Fire 01-05-2011 12:53 PM

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but its still there, and can be made into water again

Our atmosphere is like 70% hydrogen and 19% oxygem.

By your logic, 57% of our atmosphere is water.

Scraby 01-05-2011 01:05 PM

it takes lots of energy to put them together to make water,so even if there is example 50 %hidrogen and 50 % oxigen,it takes quite a lot of force or pressure to make it into water

LDG519 01-05-2011 01:15 PM

I think the point is that matter can't be destroyed, it can be changed but it can't be destroyed

Wings of Fire 01-05-2011 01:16 PM

You mean 66%/33% I think.

Scraby 01-05-2011 01:35 PM

it was just an example

Wings of Fire 01-05-2011 01:41 PM

Wait shit what am I talking about? 70% of our atmosphere is nitrogen.

It's been way too long since chemistry.

shaman 01-05-2011 01:58 PM

It's around 78%. But it's variable.

Scraby 01-05-2011 01:59 PM

20% of it is oxigen or air all together for us to breath

Nate 01-05-2011 07:28 PM

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Well, energy cannot simply...vanish, neither can matter, it can only be transformed, so there may be entirely new...let me think of a word to cover this...worlds, in a non-planetary sense, that our brains must see to understand, within the holes.

Of course energy cannot vanish. If a black hole sucks in some matter, it doesn't disappear in to the ether. The black hole becomes more massive and its gravitational pull increases.

Phylum 01-05-2011 09:12 PM

A white hole?

LDG519 01-05-2011 09:33 PM

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A white hole?

I don't think there is any evidence to support white holes and the concept doesn't make sense (at least not to me)

Nate 01-05-2011 09:35 PM

A white hole would just be a star.

LDG519 01-05-2011 10:51 PM

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A white hole would just be a star.

the concept of a white hole is the oppisite of a black hole (pushes things away instead of pulling them in) I belive such a thing is impossable, but I could be wrong (as I often am)

MeechMunchie 01-05-2011 11:19 PM

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Our atmosphere is like 70% hydrogen and 19% oxygem.

By your logic, 57% of our atmosphere is water.

Cool! I'm gonna go swim in the sky for a while.

Phylum 01-05-2011 11:40 PM

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A white hole would just be a star.

It was a Red Dwarf reference.

Nate 01-06-2011 01:08 AM

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the concept of a white hole is the oppisite of a black hole (pushes things away instead of pulling them in) I belive such a thing is impossable, but I could be wrong (as I often am)

Let's break this down for a moment; a black hole is called 'black hole' because:
a) It does not emit light (i.e. black)
b) It's gravitational pull is so strong that almost nothing can escape (i.e. a hole)

Something with the name 'white hole' would emit light, but would still be a hole. Note that this also means that the gravitational pull must therefore be weaker as it is that force that stops light from being emitted.

What you're hypothesising about would be some sort of infinite emitter of light and particles, which is impossible. I suppose the closest thing to an 'opposite' of a black hole would be a supernova, which is a massively exploding star.

MeechMunchie 01-06-2011 04:58 AM

I thought the idea was that the white hole was somehow recieving the matter pulled into the black hole. That doesn't make it any more plausible, of course. Besides, that area's alredy covered by the wormhole theory.