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Wil 10-21-2006 08:52 AM

Well, first he shut down the Evenwurst Weenerz factory and heisted the complete wealth of Fort Glokz.

Liberated Mudokons have restarted the bodily arts practised by their ancestors: body paint, tattoos and physical modification are all ways in which Mudokons express their individuality. We only started seeing this is Munch’s Oddysee, with a couple of different styles of topknot, only seen in the pre‐rendered videos.

Arxryl 10-21-2006 10:14 AM

Ah... thank you for the information. it's a lot clearer now.

Bullet Magnet 10-21-2006 12:54 PM

The Evenwurst Weenerz factory?

Cullen Heath 10-21-2006 03:02 PM

It's the main factory that Abe and Munch need to shut down in Munch's Oddysee, GBA version.

Bonedust 10-22-2006 06:04 AM

How does Munch's foot print on the gabbit moon tie in with the story of seperation on Oddworld?
(for the small few of you dont know the story)
OWI said that the Glunks and Muds were allies at one time but when the Muds saw their hand print on the moon they thought they would be the planets choosen species. This angered the glunks and caused the seperation of Native species and Industrial species.

Bullet Magnet 10-22-2006 06:06 AM

It could have been an Expresso-induced halucination.

Slaveless 10-22-2006 06:07 AM

It was to represent that Gabbits were also divine species. This could be since Munch could help destory the Octigis' overrule on a great deal of factories in Mudos.

Bonedust 10-22-2006 06:10 AM

An expresso couldnt do that. To make a halucination they would have to take an overdose of chill pills.
Edit: My reply was made for bullet magnet but slaveless types too fast.

Slaveless 10-22-2006 07:16 AM

BM had said a joke, Bonedust.

And what you said about me is a bloody, filthy lie. There is no way I type fast.

Bonedust 10-22-2006 08:15 AM

I ment that you type faster than me.
I knew he was joking.

Bullet Magnet 10-22-2006 10:49 AM

Unfortunately, Abe and munch never tried Chill Pillz! :p

Nate 10-22-2006 11:39 PM

There have been many discussions regarding Munch's moon - a search will bring them up.

I believe that the current theory is that that backstory is no longer considered canon (especially as it has not been mentioned lately, not even in the book) and that some other theory regarding the significance of the moons will be forthcoming.

Wil 10-23-2006 01:56 AM

Eh? Really? That’s new to me.

Nate 10-23-2006 03:03 AM

Hey, I'm just working from my memory here.

Bullet Magnet 10-23-2006 08:29 AM

Actually, a shared hallucination does seem to be a much more plausible to me then a lunar feature no one had noticed before appearing at that very moment. Stellar bodies do not deviate on a whim!

FTW.

Xavier 10-23-2006 09:50 AM

you mean the moons aren't real?
how come all the muds at the end of AE see it, mass hallucianation?

Bullet Magnet 10-23-2006 10:31 AM

No no, that is obviously real. Come on Xav :p

I'm talking about the bizzare Gabbit moon that nobody's heard of before.

Wil 10-23-2006 10:32 AM

I think BM is refering more to Munch’s Moon than Abe’s. Abe’s Moon does have a history, or at least an effect on the Oddworld history that we know of. If there were actually five moons with various bodyparts orbiting Oddworld, you’d think they’d be a hell of a lot more important to even the Industrialist races. Five such moons stretches plausibility.

Thinking about it, Abe’s Moon might work better if its face were still obvious, but not so exact.

p.s. lengthy replies FTW.

Nate 10-23-2006 04:59 PM

That's why Lorne changed his story (which I forgot to mention in my previous post) to the explanation that the hand on Abe's moon was formed by asteroids at the exact moment that he was approaching the end of the stockyards. Thus the moons are a sign of the coming of each hero.

Bullet Magnet 10-24-2006 02:27 AM

But I saw it fully formed before then. One of the secret area screens in Stockyard escape has that moon in the sky.

Nate 10-24-2006 03:02 AM

Good point. I shall thus rephrase to imply that I meant "when he was in the stockyards" rather than "when he was at the end of the stockyards".

*feels credibility slipping*

Wil 10-24-2006 07:35 AM

I recall either Pilot or Abe Babe later conceeding that the asteroids hitting Abe’s Moon were actually a flashback, and didn’t take place just beyond our peripheral vision during the game itself.

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I also don't think munch should have had his own moon. It kind of takes away from the story (I think). I liked how it was before where the hand could have just been a coincidence, but you really had a feeling that it was much more. Munch's moon just doesn't seem to fit to me. I do think that munch should have had something to represent him, but something different. Like having a lake shaped like his foot or something instead of another moon. You could understand why abe had never seen the moon before because he had been enslaved in rupture farms his whole life. But why wouldn't munch have seen his when he sticks his head out of the water? On the other hand, if it was a lake or something, they wouldn't have seen it until they fly over it in the airship at the end.

I latched onto this idea when I first read it almost a lustrum ago. Moons are quite a mystical medium for simulcra, which suits the Mudokons fine. Perhaps Gabbits should have something a little more down‐to‐Oddworld. These things could then form a natural equivalent to native sculpture and the industrial architectural motifs.

Nate 10-24-2006 05:24 PM

^
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Someone's been reading the dictionary again... :p

Bonedust 10-24-2006 05:29 PM

Damn my New Yorken vocabulary

Nate 10-24-2006 05:39 PM

Do what I did: go to http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lustrum and http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=simulacra.

Let's face it, none of us can match up to Max' might and wisdom. *worships*

Cullen Heath 10-24-2006 07:18 PM

Guys, quit spamming up one of the best threads on the Forums.

OnTopic: I really like the idea that he/she had on the Lake. It makes sense, too, which is cool.

Bonedust 10-25-2006 04:21 PM

Maybe the moons dont show their faces (the mudonkon hand and gabbit foot)
until they know a hero is/will be realized.

Bullet Magnet 10-26-2006 02:21 AM

Aware moons? Really?

*resists urge to explain astrophysics*

Bonedust 10-26-2006 04:38 PM

What were the games Habitales and Fearietales suppost to be about?
(I just saw read it skimming through the unofficial FAQ)

Wil 10-26-2006 04:59 PM

They were going to be real‐time strategies, but not just about warefare between opposing sides. They would have taken the concepts of controlling the environment that were intended for Munch’s Oddysee and made them much more open‐ended. The only distinction between them is that the Habitales would have been about Oddworld’s living, breathing œcosystems and the Fearietales would have been about Oddworld’s afterlife. Allegedly.

Nate 10-26-2006 06:48 PM

Were they all specifically RTS's or was HOO merely a member of the Habitales that was an RTS? I need to check the old booklet but I thought that he never specifically stated the style of the games beyond their themes.

Wil 10-26-2006 11:32 PM

Indeed.

Slaveless 10-28-2006 11:55 AM

Just throwing out a question here, but what is the Melted Candle Syndrome? It was in the articale for Interns in the TOE, and I have no idea what it is.

Munch's Master 10-28-2006 12:04 PM

I presume it's where your body look like a melted candle- Your lower body is potbellied and wider than your upper body.

Slaveless 10-28-2006 12:13 PM

I wonder how that has anything to do with Interns having lack of sleep. Curious things, Interns are.

Arxryl 10-28-2006 02:35 PM

maybe.
I know that this question won't ever be answered completely but...
what do you think Stranger's real name is?

Bullet Magnet 10-28-2006 03:47 PM

At first I thought that melted candle syndrome was from the phrese "burning the candle and both ends" when you overwork yourself, which would be because of the extended work shifts the Interns have. Though apparently it is about their physique, in which the fat from their bodies has drained down to the bottom of their torso because they spend such long periods standing upright, due to the work.


We never find out Stranger's real name, if he even has one. It just enhances the mystery that shrouds him.

Slaveless 10-28-2006 05:18 PM

Ah, thank you BM.

Now about the Stranger thing. I seriousily think that it is not important to know his previous name, if he had one, since the current one is perfect. It explains the mystery that always lurk everyone and the darkness in his past, present, and future. Now on the other hand, Stranger probably had one at one point, but chose to rename himself for secret reasons. Probably because he either a. wanted to keep his real name away from any Wolvarks or Outlaws that are familiar with Steef names or b. didn't want Grubbs to know that his name, since they are very familiar with Steef names. He probably didn't want anyone pestering him about his name. Also, he won't reveal later since no one will regonize the new Stranger, and that he probably doesn't want the Grubbs to know that he avoided to help them.

Arxryl 10-30-2006 06:00 AM

Ah...thank you for your replies.

Luskan 10-31-2006 05:59 AM

i thought that maybe part of the reason he didn't have a name, or name himself was so the clakkerz and wolvarks etc coulden't refer to him other than looks. They can only call him Stanger, which could mean anyone to an extent. Of corse they eventually find out he's a steef anyway i think.