Yeah, those bastards.

Personally, I don't really know anything about Blair. From what I can tell on this thread and others, he's a closed-minded, conservative idiot, much similar to my favorite person, George Dubya. What's Tony's deal?

And Dino, I totally agree with you (about the longer post). If we just meet the terms instead of blasting the shit out of people, then no more lives will be lost. Then, if terrorists strike again, the war will be justified, and I wouldn't feel like I'm living in an international asshole.

Tony Blair is a socialist special school dropout. He's replaced the Prime Minister's job description of running the country, with; performing a series of publicity stunts, and going on stupid political missions and crusades that cost lots of money. The Prime Minister is always "seen to be doing something". Really he himself is one big publicity stunt. He's an actor playing a character, a pretty picture of a person painted by his advisors - he's like the publicity front of a company, he's the shiny packaging, he's the hero, he's the amazing faultless wonderful person.

In other words, he's Dork Vader, and the farce is strong in him.

Out of intrigue, why are you so against Tony Blair? Where you okay with him up until the Iraq war?

Indeed. The main-man is always the chancellor. They run the country. The PM is just the charismatic, salesman type presenter of the party. Which is why Labour have no opononents, no-one can beat Blairs charisma or ego.

Personally, I really like Tony Blair. He rocks, and completely deserves the three terms he's had.

These London attacks were just the beginning just wait until the nation of Islam gets a hold of a Nuclear Bomb! I hate to be like this but is it not a bad idea to be raceist to Muslims spite of the fact that its not right and that not all Muslims are terrorist? I mean I can't trust a single Muslim. I will not step on a plane, bus, or a train because of them. Their religion is violent and I truely believe we need to temporarely suspect every Muslim that he or she could be a terrorist just to be safe. We did something like that in WWII with the German Americans by putting them into small camps to live until the war was over.

I guess this is a security question. Should we suspect every Muslim a terrorist to be safe than sorry?

Yes. Pakistan has no nukes at all now does it...

Idiot.

Why are you calling me an idiot its a serious issue?

Because suspecting someone leads to deaths of innocents because of their skin or the gods they worship. Facist.

I was only questioning these issues and not proclaiming them.

Your going overboard over it.

I've got to love your totally accepting signature.

Unless you were joking, even raising it as a serious issue is enough to warrent your sanity. I mean, they're still people, there are christians who murder and bomb people. We gonna go ass rape every christian now?

Why would 'the nation of islam' Want to nuke us anyway?

Eep! Please don't ass rape me! >.O

How could you conceive such an idea? Being racist to all Muslims would make us no better than the terrorists, who are racist to all whites and/or Americans. You're a Christian, yes? Racism is a sign of blind and unjust hatred, do you think your God would support such a thing?

I leave you with a famous quote of Benjamin Franklin to comptemplate: Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

Yeah, this thread is so getting closed.

Which is a shame as there are still people missing.

Split the thread and delete teh shitz0r Searex?

Anyway. The police have found some interesting information. All the bombers have died, and they've been doing controlled explosions of terrorist cells all day...

How did they all die? I know one did for sure because he was a suicide bomber.

I believe they all were, but i'm not sure. The police got a tip off today about their identities i believe, but i need to check.

EDIT: No, only one died in the blast. I'll edit more when i know more.

Here ya go: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4676577.stm

I found out two things today, There was actually 5 bombs, One didnt go off

And one of the survivors from the bus bomb had shrapnel in her arm, One of the pieces of shrapnel was a part of the bomb!

Hobo! Quit actin' like an asshole in this thread! If yeh don't wanna take it so seriously, then leave, rather than startin' a flamewar!

His not acting like an asshole, Now your post is probably going to start a famewar.

Damn, people post really fast....I saw it down at the bottom of the page. My apologies, Hobo.

I guess I wasn't over-reacting in my previous post. You really are a total asshole.

Why would it be a good idea to be racist to Musilms? You said yourself that not all of them are terrorists. I'm interested in your reasoning.

And like Ambi said, how can you support such a terrible ideal and then worship God, who is forgiving and universally accepting? That's like George Dubya (who supposedly reads the Bible every day) enforcing the death penalty. It's complete and total hypocrisy.




God, I hate you. :nonono:

Someone close this thread. It's all going downhill.

That ain't right at all....:nonono:

I'm goin' with Kimon. Someone close this thing down, 'fore more bad stuff comes up...

The four bombers have been identified
http://newsbox.msn.co.uk/article.asp...e=windows-1252

I hope a Muslim kills you Paramiteabe.
Just for some light sense of irony and to remove your sheer racist, backwards idiocy off the face of the Earth.

Everytime you post, it's like you're reminding me of why I always hated you.

Hold it. How's about we PM an admin., and ask them to close this thread down? More an' more things pop up, and it's not really nice. It'd be better fer all of us...:fuzconf:

The car the terroists arrived at london in was found, It had explosives in.

If you guys could hold back the "I hate you"s and "you're an idiot"s and just make your points, then there could be a reasonable debate, but noooo... You guys have to be rude so that a thread that has lots to seriously discuss gets closed. :|

'That's like George Dubya (who supposedly reads the Bible every day) enforcing the death penalty. It's complete and total hypocrisy.'

So, i'm assuming that if you believe that, you also believe in mixing Religion with Politics?

'I will not step on a plane, bus, or a train because of them.'

That's exactly like me, if i see a crucifix-wearing, Bible holding Christian anywhere near my public transport or even down my street i won't come out of my home! Seriously, i mean, what if they try and stone me or something...or worse...what if they preach to me?!

'We did something like that in WWII with the German Americans by putting them into small camps to live until the war was over.'

Don't be a Willeh. That happened to my Great Grandfather when he came over to England for the first time...he was loaded...then he wasn't...it was pointless (he was Italian, by the by, incase anybody thought "Hah...this explains the Nazism!")

'Should we suspect every Muslim a terrorist to be safe than sorry?'

I can see where you're coming from, but no. I'd say people should be cautious and maybe more alert, but i for one won't be freaking out if a brown-skinned sits near me on public transport.

At the end of the day, what will be will be. If you luck out, you luck out, nothing you can do about it really.

EDIT - Oh, and can everybody stop being pricks when it comes to topic closing, we've already had two decent topics closed 'cos of you tossers, stop screeching like little wet wipes and grow up.

That's not a surprise. And nice attempts to bring the thread back, but I think it's too far gone.

Ambi, I think as long as someone has an opinion on this thread, flaming is bound to happen. And since there's not much much more fact left to discuss on this topic (besides the occasional tidbit of info from Coolmanbizkit and the like; thanks for that), this thread has nowhere to go. :dead:

Not in particular, but in that case it's a contradiction of principles, and I don't believe in hypocrisy.

If i find out more, And the thread isnt locked. Ill post more when i know :)

'Not in particular, but in that case it's a contradiction of principles, and I don't believe in hypocrisy.'

Well then, it's an obsolete point. If Bush was a Human Rights campaigner, then fine, you'd have a point. But your Religion shouldn't be mixed with your job when you're in such a position of power. Would you be saying the same thing if Bush decided to make Homosexuality and/or Sodomy illegal?

Bush's job has nothing to do with his Religion and vice versa, so bringing up a point like that is unfair unless you believe that Religion and Politics should go hand in hand.

Sodomy, yes. Homosexuality, no, because it isn't directly addressed in the Bible.

Hmmmm.

I guess you do have a point. I'm not saying that religion and politics should go hand-in-hand, but I still think it's hypocritical.... I dunno. Supporting the death penalty and Christianity seems wrong... but... I dunno. I guess I'm moot on this issue.

All of the bombers were british! I was wrong a few posts back, They left thier car in yorkshire (where they lived) But they got the train to london, Which would then give them the chance to plant the bombs.

But that's exactly what this guy is doing, he doesn't believe in the seperation of church and state. Everybody who knows anything about George W. Bush knows that. The majority of conservatives believe the same things, and it's mainly a Christian party. They regularly preach at Christian events and have little respect, if any for the advancement of science. This is the problem with these religious nuts running the country, they deny what is logical, in return for their ignorant bliss. It has everything to do with religion and politics, and don't let any one tell you otherwise.

Oh really name one Christian in this day and age that goes and bombs innocent blood in the name of God. Go on Im waiting! Whats wrong with race profiling Muslims? If your not willing to give up some rights to be more secure then I got news for you, you already have been giving up your rights to be more secure you twit when you go into airports and any public place. Your already are a suspected criminal when walking onto a plane or a bus or train. I am talking about making it more spacific.

If people give up their rights in a situation like this, they'll never get them back. Hopefully the American people will learn a lesson, when they figure out what was lost in the signing of The Patriot Act.

These people don't have to be famous to exist.
How about the pilots that bombed Baghdad? They killed tons of innocents.

It's unfounded prejudice. Just because there are a few bombers doesn't mean an entire ****ing race consists of terrorists. That's what's wrong with it.

....Due to skin color?

Why must you be so closed-minded and ignorant and hateful? It depresses me to no end.

Well I have some facts why I think we need to racial profile Muslims. Now sit back and read!

Gaza mosque welcomes London attacks



Preacher welcomes the “blessed acts” that took place recently in Iraq and Britain; highlights their proximity to selection of Olympic host for 2012 games
By Roee Nahimas



GAZA - In a reaction similar to the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks in New York, the blood spilt in the London terror attacks has been celebrated within the Palestinian territories.

London Attacks

Hamas threatens suicide attacks in U.K. / By Aaron Klein, World Net Daily

Warning follows leader's call for attacks against U.K. targets; however, fundraising successes may dampen interest in high-profile attacks
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The Gaza based Sut Al Quds radio station, which identifies itself with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, has praised the London terrorist atrocities.



The broadcast was carried live on Saturday evening, two days after the attack.



The radio station was broadcasting a sermon, in which a preacher was inciting listeners against Israel and the Palestinian Authority.




The preacher criticized Israel’s planned Gaza withdrawal, saying that Jerusalem was not part of the program.



The Palestinian Authority was described as vile for opening up a casino in Jericho.



Also in the same broadcast, Osama Bin Laden was praised, while the succession of explosions in London were welcomed.



The preacher welcomed the “blessed acts” that took place recently in Iraq and Britain, and highlighted their proximity to the selection of an Olympic host for the 2012 games.



“The sounds of happiness were heard in London, and Osama Bin Laden came and redrew the map. He made sure that the voice of the surrendered will be heard in every place,” the mosque's preacher said.




The sermon was translated by the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center , which emphasized that mosques under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority routinely incited for murder, and were being used by a variety of organizations with no effective supervision by the Authority.

Tell me its "wrong" to racial profile these people!

Like Kimon said, they don't have to be famous to exist, and while I can't think of any Christian in our lifetime famous for bombing, I've heard several stories about a parent killing his or her children in the name of God. =/

Erm, there's a difference between having a little privacy in what you carry onto a plane or into a public place because of the high risk of something like 9/11 happening again and putting innocent people into camps for no logical reason. Targetting a certain, whole race is not being specific; it's generalizing. If security were to spend all their time concentrating on checking and rechecking anyone who looks Middle-Eastern, a white terrorist could easily slip by.

(Were you actually calling me a twit? I've been the only person attempting to be nice and reason with you. Bah, I give up.)

Well, you got me there.

Racial profiling is still racism, and it's wrong. But I guess now it's kinda justified. *shudder* I feel gross saying that. However, it was just the one mosque (correct?) that issued that sermon, wasn't it? And it's not right to judge the entire race of people because of one radical.


That was a bad move for your race, mosque-man.