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GABBITS OWN 08-17-2010 03:01 AM

It would be sorta gay if you could posses them, to easy...

AvengingGibbons 08-18-2010 03:26 AM

It would also be gay to use gay to imply something is bad.

Keep the scenery, but totally renew the challenges, so that we won't know how to complete the puzzles immediately, as we would if it was similar to the original = would be amazing :)

Ridg3 08-18-2010 03:35 AM

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Keep the scenery, but totally renew the challenges, so that we won't know how to complete the puzzles immediately, as we would if it was similar to the original = would be amazing :)

Huh? Why would he do that? The amount of ridiculous calculations that would be needed would be way to much for someone who isn't getting paid for it... even making the original puzzles is going to be an arduous undertaking.

AvengingGibbons 08-18-2010 05:33 AM

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Huh? Why would he do that? The amount of ridiculous calculations that would be needed would be way to much for someone who isn't getting paid for it... even making the original puzzles is going to be an arduous undertaking.

..? amount of ridiculous calculations???.. changing the puzzles so that we don't know which way to go, where enemies are hiding, where abouts touch stones are, where bells are, where mudokons are... I don't see it as being too much trouble if he's already making lots of effort to remodel the whole of the game's scenery -_-.. he's even talked about it himself. He WANTS to implement new challenges and concepts.

Ridg3 08-18-2010 05:43 AM

http://img.youtube.com/vi/coqeH-l8qWQ/0.jpg

This, for example, would have been a very tricky puzzle to create even for 2D now try to implent this in a 3D environment...
The creators of the game would have had to sit down for a while and design (with measurements and calculations) then they would have coded it to see if it worked, if not, back to the drawing board.

It isn't as easy as what you're trying to make it out to be, modeling scenery is one thing but modelling puzzles then adding back code is a totally different ball game.

Wil 08-18-2010 06:48 AM

Having an angry avatar and being Irish is no excuse to escalate tension. You were having a civil disagreement until that last sentence, Ridg3. I don't want to see it continue.

AvengingGibbons 08-18-2010 03:52 PM

Obviously it takes work, but that's what any developer should expect. If they don't like the work then I don't think they'd set out to do a big project. But nowtun's project to recreate the whole of Abe's Oddysee in 3D shows he has some solid determination. He's spoken about othe ideas he wishes to develop, like his light an shadow idea.

..but i see your point Ridg3. But he seems to be working on his game a lot. Anyway, was just a good idea.. if it's a remake, it wouldn't entertain for too long..

STM 08-19-2010 01:38 AM

Dude that's cold, Nowtun's been working so much on this game.

GABBITS OWN 08-19-2010 01:41 AM

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Dude that's cold, Nowtun's been working so much on this game.

That was mean, I always support everyone on there quests.

STM 08-19-2010 01:50 AM

I was mean? wtf

Ridg3 08-19-2010 01:56 AM

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Dude that's cold, Nowtun's been working so much on this game.

If that was at me then I should mention that I never meant to imply that he hasn't been putting alot of effort into this... from what I seen he's certainly surpassed my level of skill at creating stuff.

I think that the commitment that Nowtun has put into this is immense and I'm really impressed with what he has shown us so far but my comment was just to say that he shouldn't take on more than what a team of developers should take on, unless of course, he really wants to... I'm not going to hold him back on his project.

GABBITS OWN 08-19-2010 01:58 AM

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I was mean? wtf

No Ag was.

STM 08-19-2010 02:00 AM

Yeah gibbons not you Ridg

GABBITS OWN 08-19-2010 02:03 AM

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Yeah gibbons not you Ridg

He has put lots of effort into this, no one should rip him.

Phylum 08-19-2010 02:50 AM

Nowtun, that is.

Wil 08-19-2010 03:15 AM

What the hell are you all talking about? AvengingGibbons is saying Nowtun has put a lot of effort and dedication into this, and you're calling him cold and mean?

This is why sane people don't come into Fan Corner.

AvengingGibbons 08-19-2010 04:02 AM

Wow lol.. i AM confused..

STM 08-19-2010 06:34 AM

Now I'm confused, I thought this wasn't fair...

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Anyway, was just a good idea.. if it's a remake, it wouldn't entertain for too long..

Wil 08-19-2010 06:40 AM

Personally I interpreted that as meaning exactly what AG has been saying: That if the puzzles and challenges remain completely unaltered from those in the original game, the game would be easy to solve by us Oddworld pros, and thus not have as much longevity on our end. I don't think there's anything unfair about suggesting that.

STM 08-19-2010 06:53 AM

Oh then I misunderstood and apologise to AG

AvengingGibbons 08-19-2010 07:09 AM

You are forgiven ScrabTrapMan.. as for Ridg3, I await my big expensive apologetic christmas present!

Lord Stanley 08-19-2010 01:17 PM

I wonder what Nowtun has to say about all this?

nowtun 08-19-2010 03:23 PM

hey guys

wow im amazed that people are still interested in this thread as i havnt updated it in so long. but just to let you know, there will be updates.... just not yet. i dont want to post anything new just yet untill we've finished what were doing right now.

as for the puzzles, there are plans for changes, but the majority of the alterations will be due to the 3D aspect of it all (2D puzzles dont work in 3D) so we'll be working around that. as of yet we havnt decided what we will be adding to the game thats totaly new but all i know is that it will have to coinside with whats currently in oddysee and its story line. think along the lines of the resident evil remake on the gamecube, same story with added bits and altered puzzles. but yeah as this is non profit.... dont expect mirracles. but im happy with the progress.... :-)

thanks guys. i'll keep you all posted as and when there are updates

Latamire Munch 08-20-2010 02:10 PM

That is immense. Keep up the good work.

nowtun 08-22-2010 01:01 AM

Hey guys
Just a little update on Abe.

This is an idle test that I made quickly last night. It consists of two animations looping including breathing and scratching his leg. It also has a rough first draft texture to give an idea of what it is going to look like. The face isn't animated for in game reasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bYOlwRqm7c

nOWtun

ledsnipe 08-26-2010 12:04 AM

Mate i am lost for words that was amazing make more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did ya use to make it

Lord Stanley 08-26-2010 08:54 AM

I think it looks pretty good, certainly good enough to encourage development.

lismati 08-26-2010 10:52 PM

How far are you wıth progress? And you have a team of some kınd, or youre doıng ıt alone?

Software Bug 08-27-2010 12:39 AM

Idle animations look nice man :), So I read all 5 pages really fast, but could not find if you've settled for an engine already? So do you mind telling us if you've already decided on an engine? :D Great work man, keep up the good work!

nowtun 08-28-2010 10:57 AM

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Idle animations look nice man :), So I read all 5 pages really fast, but could not find if you've settled for an engine already? So do you mind telling us if you've already decided on an engine? :D Great work man, keep up the good work!

yes I have an engine and its currently working.

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How far are you wıth progress? And you have a team of some kınd, or youre doıng ıt alone?

Im currently just polishing some stuff off and tweaking with other bits to get the best results